The Millenial Rebellion

a reply to: Metallicus

Yeah I get it your old.

a reply to: onequestion

What laws did they break?

a reply to: ketsuko

More false narratives from listening to much right wing conservative nonsense.

We're not looking for equality we want opportunity.

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: onequestion

What laws did they break?

Please clarify.

IMO, too many people watch the MSM and don't look out their window. I don't need to watch TWC to know it's rainin'! If you pay attention to political news it is coming from MSM, straight outta DC, scripted. It is so blatant. What they say is up is down. What they say is left is right. Lies, lies, lies...every presidential candidate makes me ill. WAKE UP people. Tell your friends. Wake up, stand up, take account. Keep your water wet, your food dry and your ammo dryer.

a reply to: jkm1864

I still don't understand how you can fail to notice that the guy holding the music box is wearing a puppet on each hand?

There are only two kinds of people: money and (not) money. The government is the corporation. The corporation is the government. Most of the flunkies on either team never even notice, because they are both tools used to extract wealth from the bottom of the sack, where it is actually generated, through "buying" stuff.

There is a power grab here, and its aim is to drop the standard of living in the west to match the developing world, and then -- get rid of the dead weight.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: dawnstar

I agree with you.

But with youth you get a more aggressive style of fighting back where older people are more stuck in their ways and choose security over risk.

Not only that but jobs that used to pay more are paying less now like in construction where guys are getting 18$ an hour when they used to get 25+.

When the government keeps taking more, the people get less.

Talk to any business owner about the expenses to have an employee, prior to paying any wages.

Taxes, regulatory fees, insurance, worker's compensation etc.

a reply to: onequestion

I am sorry to see the political bantering in this thread really. I think the economy is going to fail so badly, that rebuilding what was is just not going to be possible. we are kind of like we were before the great depression hit, and there was no way they could have envisioned the world that was built after world war two. I don't think what we will end up with will be capitalism as we know it, and I don't think it will be socialism as we think of it... it will be something new, different, better in many ways, and maybe worse in many ways. but what some aren't getting is that we can't survive in the current system. ya, they can't pay off their student loans, how much you want to make a bet that those student loans are like the mortgages and are sitting in their iras. if the younger generation doesn't have the money to invest in the stock market, when it comes time for the older generation to cash in their ira's who's going to be there to invest in the scam enough for them to get even close to the money that they've invested? businesses can't run if there isn't customers who have money to buy, and the gov't isn't going to be able to keep providing that money to people so that they can buy.
we are all stuck in limbo until they do what they should have done to begin with, accept that they've crashed they system, eat the lose, and start putting ourselves back together.

a reply to: MsAphrodite

I agree with that as well.

originally posted by: onequestion

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: onequestion

What laws did they break?

Please clarify.

You said, "Actually I think punishing crony capitalist is exactly what we need. Jail time and treason."

I asked, "what laws did they break?"

a reply to: dawnstar

I agree.

There is no recovery.

a reply to: DBCowboy

Monopoly and corruption sponsoring bills trough congress and buying politicians.

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: DBCowboy

Monopoly and corruption sponsoring bills trough congress and buying politicians.

So a corrupt Justice department is going to punish corruption in government?

a reply to: DBCowboy

Ughhh

a reply to: onequestion

Yeah, I agree. It's not fair to paint all of us with that brush, but there are a TON of ultra liberal, PC crazies in our generation. I do bjj, carry a gun, drive a gas guzzler (foreign though so the SJWs would add a few points), think the man should take out the garbage, say ma'am and think it's slightly embarrassing when a man has long hair. Go hang out on Tumblr for a day. If you're a straight male you're a terrible person, and if you're white too, you're worse. Recently I've seen that they no longer like gay men, because privilege. Our generation has some serious problems, and not just economically.

I agree things need to change and greed/instant gratification is screwing a lot of us over, but this generation terrifies me. These folks bully the crap out of everyone until they get their way. Look at Europe. You can get arrested in the UK for hurting someone's feelings online. Look at Sweden, UN projects them turning into a 3rd World Country by 2030, literally the rape/molestation capital of the world, and still the immigrants flow in. The left is insane, and it's a problem our generation swings so far to the left. I want everyone to have food, medical care, housing, clean water and a good quality of life. I don't want the people that promise this in control, because they end up being so left on every issue they ruin nations. Europe is falling. I don't want to be Europe, and our generation wants to vote the way they do.

a reply to: Domo1

I agree there is definitely a lot of bs but think about it.

How many friends do you have that are PC liberals?

I don't really even know that many.

a reply to: onequestion

So this is a weird comparison, I don't really know any cat people either. I still know they're out there.

Still you may have a point that they are a vocal majority (I meant minority). But on the flip side of that seeing the way colleges and others are reacting to SJW craziness and pandering to them worries me.

Sorry I'm rambly tonight, long day. Border Collie + Cattle Dog + nice weather = tired Domo.

a reply to: Domo1

Me too man.

I just find it weird that I don't know a single SJW at all and I've lived all over the country. I mean do avoid people with man buns and excess facial hair.

a reply to: MsAphrodite

are you talking about the big corps or the small businesses here.
there's a difference ya know.
Before we moved out of NY, I was kind of bat crap crazy, really. I was obsessed with different aspects of the gov't and how they worked and the the effect it had on the people for over a decade in that state. so well, I watched, I read alot. well, state politics can be just as corrupt as federal politics are. and between the two, they were spending over a $100,000/job in these economic developement projects trying to lure business into the state. I watched as these businesses would come in promising so many jobs, then hire about half of what they promised, stay for a few years and off they would go to greener pastures. the gov't would help their buddies build brand new hotels, in areas that were so saturated with hotels that they were only operating at about a half to two thirds capacity, give them all kinds of tax breaks, and crap, and well, how could the owners of those other hotels compete, they couldn't. $100,000/job, and really those jobs didn't pay that well, and in many cases they were systematically killing off the small businesses, for the sake of their buddies and pals.
so although I admit that there are some businesses, mostly small businesses that are hurting quite badly, there are also some businesses that have had some really great deals handed to them compliments of the taxpayers. and, there are ways to arrange things so that those small businesses would probably benefit while those larger corps are forced to either run their businesses so that they are giving more back to their communities than they are taking from them.
but the idea that we are living in a capitalistic economy is a laugh and a half really. the gov't and the corporate world is too chummy, I'd say they are walking hand in hand, along with both the republican and the democrat. they all have the same goals, they're following the same exact plan. but, they may have gotten too greedy, or ahead of themselves I think, and in the end, they are gonna fall just like everyone else.
the gov't, the fed paid out big bucks to bail out the banks after they allowed those banks go do for years committing fraud, and well, now we are reading about how the banks are paying the gov't all these fines for their misdeeds. okay, but the people who really got ripped off in this, who lost their houses, their jobs, saw their retirement savings dwindle away, they aren't getting crap are they?

After reading the wiki definition of who millennials are, apparently I am one, which is born after 1982. So here's my experience with debt. First college, was $34,500. I went into the automotive field, and got laid off from every automotive job I've worked at (i'm a crane operator now). After graduating college, I got penalized for paying too early, which added more interest. I didn't read thoroughly about the "grace period" stuff. Even though I always made my payments on time, they started taking my federal tax refunds each year. Then they tried taking 5% of my weekly paychecks, some employers I had was able to stop that, others didn't bother helping.

Before my current career, and was working two jobs, my gallbladder had failed from rapid weight loss (i was working 14-16 hours every day), and it was all labor work. Moving stuff, going up and down ladders, all that exhausting work the generation below us refuse to do. I didn't notice my gallbladder failing, I thought it was typical work pains combined with not eating much. I made it 6 days before I collapsed from the pain, and by that time, during surgery, I had been infected with internal gangrene, so it turned into a major surgery. Gallbladder, appendix, 14in of my colon and lots of tissue was cut out. I didn't have any health insurance at the time, and my medical bill was $134,000.

So that put me out of work for 3 months. No income, nothing saved, nor did I have anyone to borrow off of. Then by the time I was healed up enough to be cleared to work from my surgeon, my two jobs I had were gone. They didn't need me anymore, and had replaced me during my leave of absence.

Now, I'm not saying all of us "millennials" are hard-working. I know quite a few people my age who are still like kids. As if they never reached that point where they finally grew up. They live off the government, or live by selling drugs, or both.

It has become very hard to find anyone trustworthy these days, which is why I'm now mostly a loner. I used to live in a nice neighborhood and now people are stealing and shooting people left and right. I've had my central air unit stolen twice, and the 2nd time I put a cage around around it with a big padlock. Oh, and don't get me started about how people act on the roads now. I used to love driving, but not these days. People are careless, and anger far too easily over their own embarrassments. (ie: person blows through a stop sign, either hits you, or almost hits you, then chases/attacks you even though it was completely their own fault. They take no responsibility of their actions, in other words, people are nuts).

As for politics, I simply never have the time for it. Other people my age purposely ignore what is going on in the world, stuck in that mindset that you can't do anything about it, so why bother. Why not just live in ignorance and be happy they say.

Anyways, that's how my life in debt has been, and a bit of ranting. Still in debt, just from college and the hospital. I highly doubt I would ever buy a new car or get a house built in my lifetime.

I imagine it's much harder for those who have kids.