Titan space elevator could fuel the solar system.

a reply to: BIGPoJo

Intended by whom?

a reply to: openminded2011

There are many many more uses for hydrocarbons than just gas for cars.
It could very well be, in the future, that these resources are to be used in products being manufactured in space and these factories located in orbit around Titan. This could make your 'elevator" idea worth while.

originally posted by: verschickter
a reply to: BIGPoJo

Intended by whom?

Providence.

Hey...don't be nasty...next week is 11 weeks...must be that time...

If we could build Two space elevators.
then we could just as easy build a space ring around earth.
and we could live in that.

Gotta repeat this...
"People steer away from you at parties...and this is why....
Cheers

Why should we bring more combustible gas on this planet than it already needs? That is dangerous and deadly to our air quality and life on Earth.

originally posted by: makemap
Why should we bring more combustible gas on this planet than it already needs? That is dangerous and deadly to our air quality and life on Earth.

Because the combustibles drive the machines, and the machines drive profit.

originally posted by: samkent
I have a better idea !

Someone on Titan strike a match,
Then on Earth we can have an ooooh Ahhhhh moment as it goes up in a light show.

No free oxygen on Titan, therefore no free show...

originally posted by: PhloydPhan
a reply to: swanne

Yeah - Mars probably has enough oxygen (bound up in iron oxide and other rocks on the surface or bound to CO2) and greenhouse gases (in the form of C02 either in the atmosphere as a gas or as dry ice at the poles) to at least begin terraforming (assuming we had the other technology). What it lacks is a decent buffer gas. Nitrogen fits that bill nicely here on Earth.

Just not enough gravity for teraforming, and virtually no magnetic shield to keep the suns nasty stuff from hitting the surface, or blowing away the lighter gases, as has happened.

originally posted by: pikestaff

originally posted by: PhloydPhan
a reply to: swanne

Yeah - Mars probably has enough oxygen (bound up in iron oxide and other rocks on the surface or bound to CO2) and greenhouse gases (in the form of C02 either in the atmosphere as a gas or as dry ice at the poles) to at least begin terraforming (assuming we had the other technology). What it lacks is a decent buffer gas. Nitrogen fits that bill nicely here on Earth.

Just not enough gravity for teraforming, and virtually no magnetic shield to keep the suns nasty stuff from hitting the surface, or blowing away the lighter gases, as has happened.

NASA's MAVEN probe has provided some interesting data on this. Mars loses about 100 grams of atmosphere to the solar wind each second. Any terraformed atmosphere would need to be continually replenished. This would be a challenge, but if we're assuming a space elevator in Titan and the shipping of industrial quantities of gasses and liquids around the solar system, it doesn't seem too ridiculous.

originally posted by: wildespace

originally posted by: makemap
Why should we bring more combustible gas on this planet than it already needs? That is dangerous and deadly to our air quality and life on Earth.

Because the combustibles drive the machines, and the machines drive profit.

That is like bringing the sun onto Earth just to harvest solar energy for more profit.

It may not be economically feasible now, but in the future it may very well come to pass.

Weaning ourselves off of hydrocarbons isn't going to happen anytime soon. It's used in far too many industrial products and applications.

As for power needs? Fusion, or Solar, will be the next breakthrough, IMHO.

It's not so much breaking our dependence upon the hydrocarbon, as it is breaking the influence of the hydro carbon peddlers. When that happens, other breakthroughs will follow.

originally posted by: swanne
a reply to: openminded2011

A simpler solution would be to stop relying on hydrocarbons.

Progress is irrelevant if the technology ends up damaging the biosphere with even higher levels of pollution. Since we humans are part of the biosphere, we would basically be ensuring our own downfall, along with millions of species.

I agree with you, although technically, the hydrocarbons don't 'have to be' damaging to our biosphere...burn them in space, and beam the energy back to orbital collectors as microwaves...but still, it's not really progress as you say.

A better and cheaper option would be to either build massive solar arrays on the moon, or in high Earth orbit and using the microwaves method, beam the energy to ground.

Mannnnn... I was just gonna make a thread about the Space Elevator based on this video. Have you guys seen this video? A space elevator is the future but scary all at once because if the tether ever broke, oh no... but it would allow us to explore space at a fraction of the cost.