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originally posted by: SprocketUK
I'll say it again, for the really hard of thinking.
How a woman dresses has no bearing on her responsibility for getting raped.
originally posted by: Painterz
I see a bunch of guys saying there is no such thing as rape culture.
And every single woman I know says there is.
originally posted by: redmage
originally posted by: SprocketUK
I'll say it again, for the really hard of thinking.
How a woman dresses has no bearing on her responsibility for getting raped.
I don't see anyone here arguing the contrary.
That said, acknowledging that an individual is responsible for the image they project is not the same as blaming a victim for being raped. There's a difference there that it appears you may be failing to see.
originally posted by: Painterz
I see a bunch of guys saying there is no such thing as rape culture.
And every single woman I know says there is.
The gulf between these two views tells me everything I need to know about how a bunch of guys really don't have the right to tell many many women that they are wrong about how they experience the world.
originally posted by: SprocketUK
You seem to be arguing exactly that.
originally posted by: SprocketUK
A victim is responsible for the image they project means what exactly?
originally posted by: redmage
originally posted by: SprocketUK
You seem to be arguing exactly that.
No, I don't. That's why I said " There's a difference there that it appears you may be failing to see.".
originally posted by: SprocketUK
A victim is responsible for the image they project means what exactly?
I don't know. You tell me. Those are your words, not mine.
I said "an individual is responsible for the image they project". Why are you twisting the "individual" into a "victim"?
Again, acknowledging that an individual is responsible for the image they project is not the same as blaming a victim for being raped.
There are two separate issues here that you appear to be blurring in an attempt to form some sort of weak straw-man argument.
originally posted by: SprocketUK
Since this thread is about rape
originally posted by: SprocketUK
it is pretty obvious that there are going to be two parties here, both individuals. One being the rapist the other the victim. Since I sincerely doubt you were talking about the rapists image it therefore follows you must have been talking about the victim, doesn't it?
originally posted by: SprocketUK
So my use of the word is justified.
originally posted by: SprocketUK
All this dancing around with semantics makes me think you know you have it wrong but are too small to admit it.
originally posted by: SprocketUK
Why don't you try and expand upon exactly what you mean about an individual being responsible for their image in the case of rape
originally posted by: chelsdh
I keep hearing the phrase "rape culture", keep seeing viral movements involving the phrase- and I hate it. Makes my skin crawl. I think it's so over used, numbing us to what the word "rape" means. When I was a young girl, it was a horrific thing- when I heard someone was raped. Now I hear the word so flippantly thrown around, it doesn't hold the same weight. I agree that the west doesn't understand what a real "rape culture" is like.
originally posted by: SprocketUK
a reply to: redmage
After reading your latest post I never want you within ten miles of Any woman I care about.