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Sorry about the flu, you should get a flu shot
originally posted by: Jakal26
a reply to: Boadicea
No worries. It's sometimes hard to cover all the angles here when people decide to put words in your mouth or misrepresent what you are saying. All our time, in those cases, seems to be devoted to playing catch up and trying to reiterate what is is we are actually saying.
I've seen you discuss vaccines more than enough to know that you're one of the ones that refuses to self-censor, thus catering to the "all hail holy vaccines" crowd.
I honestly don't know a whole lot about the connection and am reading more as we speak. A simple google search has me now traveling the rabbit hole as the first few pages are filled with muddied waters that I have to sort (sources and such, primarily) before I can even begin to have an opinion.
I happen to have some friends over at fb who discuss this stuff quite a bit and I remembered seeing the issue of SBS (and SIDS) being connected. Some of those "friends" are a bit quacky, to say the least, but others are very astute and do their homework so I tend to take note of their findings and listen to their opinions, even if that is just reading and not discussing it with them
It's something I haven't put a great deal of research into as I never really had much of a dog in the fight, so to speak. I have no children, so....but I now have two nephews, so in the last few years I've took more notice. Especially since all this "mandatory vaccination" stuff is now being shoved down our throats. Can't imagine that at some point that won't be extended to adults as well, so, here comes my dog.
But didn't NLBS do one of those videos about vaccines and attempt to "debunk" anything and everything about vaccine injury? I seem to recall a few being rather pissed about that. I don't watch those videos or follow that stuff, so I might be wrong.
.....Maybe SO could come along and elaborate what the deal with that video in the OP is about.
vaccines is accused of many things, but it's hard to find actual facts.
originally posted by: Boadicea
a reply to: SpecialSauce
I've heard of pregnant women riding rollercoasters causing miscarriages.in fact some rollercoasters have warnings that expecting mothers should not ride.
If I remember correctly, that's similar to how the original doctor came up with the hypothesis, after his friend had been in a roller coaster that stopped suddenly, causing whiplash and some bleeding on the brain. The doctor then theorized that a shaken baby could develop the same type of bleeding.
But from what I read vibrations take less g force to kill.
Interesting -- and good to know! All the more reason for me to avoid anything that vibrates.
A spinal tap that returns bloody cerebral spinal fluid is usually their first diagnostic finding that leads to this diagnosis. Of course, multiple other tests are done to rule out other causes as well...
To tell whether a baby has been injured or killed by being shaken, the courts use three hallmark symptoms: bleeding and swelling in the brain and retinal bleeding in the eyes. Along with other evidence, those standards are used to convict caregivers of abusive head trauma, both intentional and unintentional, that can result in blindness, seizures, severe brain damage or death. But in recent years a small cadre of experts testifying for the defense in cases across the country has called into question whether those symptoms actually indicate abuse.
So researchers have developed and validated a tool doctors can use to distinguish between head injuries resulting from abuse and those from accidents or medical conditions. The method, described in the journal Pediatrics on Monday, asks doctors to check for six other injuries, each of which increases the likelihood that a head injury resulted from severe shaking, blunt force or both.
The tool itself is simple: listing rib fracture, seizures, long-bone fractures, bruises on the head or neck, periods of not breathing called apnea and bleeding in the retina of the eyes. The more of those a child suffers, the more likely the case resulted from abuse.
"Part of the challenge is that there is no gold standard for making a diagnosis of child abuse — you can't do a blood test," said Cindy Christian, chair of both Child Abuse and Neglect Prevention at The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia and the American Academy of Pediatrics' Committee on Child Abuse and Neglect. "It's always going to be a clinical diagnosis with social investigation. A bruise is a bruise. A broken bone is a broken bone. A subdural hemorrhage is a subdural hemorrhage. There are certain injuries that are much more highly correlated with abuse, and there aren't very many things that cause these together."