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Now I've read the whole thread. I'm very glad to see that no one (except Boudicea?) is denying that SBS is a thing, that it happens, and that it causes brain damage and/or death.
It's become the go to diagnosis, and resulted in ruining lives, but when looked at later, a lot of cases fall apart.
There's nobody saying that shaking a baby is safe, they're saying that it needs to stop being the go to diagnosis by doctors, and they need to look closer.
originally posted by: SpecialSauce
I'm no expert but why don't vibrating heart shaped beds in hotel honeymoon suites kill people?
Sorry if I misunderstood your point, Boadicea - and thanks for clarifying. I really wasn't sure what to make of it.
Impact falls. There have been dozens of cases where people have hit their head, and walked and talked just fine for hours or even days, then suddenly slipped into a coma or died.
originally posted by: Mianeye
It is well known that sudden movement and lack of support to a baby's head can cause brain damage or even death, shaking would be violent and could definitely cause damage to the baby.
Not exactly sure why this is questioned.
originally posted by: Zaphod58
a reply to: BuzzyWigs
That's not what they or I said. They were testing if shaking a baby could cause the type of brain injury that doctors always say is caused by shaking. Not if a baby could or couldn't suffer brain damage from it. To cause the type of bleeding and damage that they claim required 80Gs of force. Not even an extremely athletic man can shake a baby that hard.
originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: Zaphod58
I already said if it falls it could get brain damage. So - we agree....how do you believe a grown athlete is not capable of shaking hard enough to hurt a baby?