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Philip Corso's Notes - Dawn of a New Age

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posted on Apr, 16 2016 @ 01:49 PM
a reply to: AboveBoard

The problem with the Velcro claim is that although it was invented sometime in the 40's it it had nothing to do with Roswell and likely predates it.
Velcro was invented by a Swiss engineer who took inspiration from natures sticky seed pods not Alien spacesuits.

posted on Apr, 16 2016 @ 02:32 PM
a reply to: gortex

Hey gortex,

I agree. It would be very problematic if he claimed velcro was from Roswell.

I didn't find anything in the Notes regarding velcro (I have it downloaded and did a document search, including looking for with with any typos that might be there).

I found a reference online, separately, to where velcro was included in The Day After Roswell.

I'm not including that book because 1) Tom DeLonge said in his AMA to look at the Notes, not the book (his AMA and C2C interview is why I'm investigating this to begin with) and 2) velcro isn't in the notes.

There is a quote in the OP about the book containing a lot of stuff Corso didn't like, that he didn't say, etc. Because of that, I'm going just with the notes right now. I'm trying not to confuse the two!

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posted on Apr, 16 2016 @ 06:07 PM

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
a reply to: vethumanbeing

Mine flew horizon to horizon in 45 seconds; that seemed fast to me.. yours was "slow".
Although my sighting was only 45 seconds, I could see every last detail for about 30
of those 45 seconds, which is very strange to me.
It seemed that the distance from "IT" to me didn't alter my ability to perceive small
details about it.. which when coupled with other things has made me think that it
was projected into my mind.. if not, there was certainly a lot of high strangeness
occurring. I mean, it did change shape 3 times.. but that was it's original form.
Were there any high strangeness aspects to your sighting that you didn't share?

No; it did not change. So slow as to not believe it was aloft (floating). Not a blimp this vehicle was so close to the ground it took up half of the sky. This thing was gigantic; It had to be a half mile in diameter. Silent. Blimps have engines that sound like a buzz. I almost had the feeling those flying it wanted the craft to be seen.

posted on Apr, 16 2016 @ 10:27 PM
a reply to: AboveBoard

Thanks OP. Almost finished with it. Interesting read. The book that is, not the notes.


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posted on Apr, 17 2016 @ 06:01 AM
Hey AboveBoard,

Good work throughout the thread.

I'm a bit late posting in it now and I haven't read Corso's notes (no time at the moment). But I'll add one thing that I don't think anyone has mentioned (apologies if they have). Nick Redfern has commented that he believes Corso may have, unknowingly, been part of an operation to identify a Soviet spy on the inside of the US military.

..... A plan was hatched to reveal bogus information to the traitor that was very specific, and that would be easily traced back to the Soviet contact when it was duly passed on - thus identifying the traitor, too.

The concocted story...... was that, in 1961, the FTD had got its hands on a quantity of strange, metallic debris from a crashed UFO ..... This story was... leaked to the suspected Soviet sympathizer and, apparently, the ruse worked: the US traitor forwarded the information on to his Russian handler and arrests were quickly and quietly made........

Corso just happened to be a prime-mover within the Army’s FTD in the early 1960s. According to Corso, he had hands-on access while with the FTD to certain, recovered materials from the Roswell crash of 1947 – materials that Corso asserted until his dying day were extra-terrestrial in origin.

..... wittingly or unwittingly, Corso’s story could be traced back to the ruse laid down to smoke out the Soviets’ informant. How this all relates to the Corso story is not fully clear; but it is an intriguing slant on the whole controversy.........

Full story : UFO Conjecture(s) : The Roswell Memory Metal Saga

It doesn't explain everything I know. But make of it what you will.
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posted on Apr, 17 2016 @ 06:48 AM
I find Ivan Teller really interesting. He is channeling every day aliens and when you see more his videos you come to know quite a lot about alien nature and their affairs in the earth, positive and negative. At this moment all kind of species are crowding here on earth to help humanity or battle against humanity ascending. Better you see with your own eyes. Roswell is gone and done, now totally new kind of contacts are appearing;

posted on Apr, 17 2016 @ 10:59 AM
a reply to: Suanna

Hey Suanna, thanks for joining the thread.

I'm not too familiar with Ivan Teller, honestly. Thank you for the link.

I don't like to take channelers statements about their experiences without there being real-world means of verifying what they are receiving is "real" and not their own imagination, or even simply bad information. I respect that knowledge can come in different forms, but without a way to confirm it, its just another story.

As to Roswell, it may be "old news" to some, but if it could be proven to have happened, it would be one of the greatest stories in human history. Therefore, I don't consider it "gone and done" IF it effected our technological growth, and transformed our military goals, etc.

New contacts may very well be happening. My question is why should I believe anyone without verification on something that is so, well, "out of this world," if you'll forgive the pun. Now, I've had a sighting of my own, so I personally know SOMETHING is happening and that UFOs are real, but what is happening and what UFOs are, has not yet been determined, in my opinion or experience.

- AB

posted on Apr, 17 2016 @ 03:12 PM
a reply to: mirageman

Welcome, mirageman! Thanks for jumping in.

Honestly, there are so many stories about "what Roswell was," what the "mystery metal" was, etc. that its hard to make heads or tails of it... Which I think is the entire point.

So which source to believe? Who is the most "reputable" and does that reputation guarantee accuracy or could it also mean cover-up or duplicity?

The word "conjecture" leads us down a multitude of strange paths. At this point, with the Corso notes, I'm slowly attempting to figure out what percentage of his information has SOME possible verification, and what percentage is either unverifiable or obviously wrong.

For example:
The "monster bomb over the Pacific" never happened according to every history I can find, HOWEVER, the Tsar Bomba DID happen over the Arctic ocean. Was their UFO activity afterwards? I don't know - I haven't found that yet (or really deeply searched) one way or another. Was a Soviet base destroyed by that UFO activity? Or simply destroyed? Not that I can find, at all. So??? I'm left with a giant hole in that one small part of the whole story and no real way to fill it. If an American base were destroyed due to UFO activity, would that be public knowledge? Something I could google?? I don't know...

Would love for you to chime in some more...

- AB

posted on Apr, 17 2016 @ 03:58 PM
a reply to: AboveBoard

Roswell hey? Yep from the moment that headline appeared " RAAF Captures Flying Saucer" it starts to split points of view. Even though the phrase "Flying Saucer" had only just been coined a week or so before by the media after Kenneth Arnold's story hit the press. Meanwhile all the contemporary reports of the Roswell wreckage talk about a bundle of debris consisting of "... tinfoil, paper, tape, and sticks".

I'd also like know if the 'UFO and Nuke' connection is just a meme that's developed over time or is there any substance to it. It's something mentioned over in the 'Rendlesham' thread. There is one (rather obscure) theory that nuclear warheads at Bentwaters were actually neutralized. This also extends across the Iron Curtain and supposedly occurred at a base in the Soviet Union at the same time (Xmas 1980). I do not know where.

However wiki lists around 2,500 nuclear weapons detonations that have been conducted through history. So the UFOs are a bit choosy about where and when they turn up. Nor do they seem too bothered about tracking nuclear subs or hovering over nuclear power plants.

As for the Soviet base being destroyed the only story I am aware of is

"On June 3rd, 1960, two alien craft allegedly crashed at Kasputin Yar, creating an expanding fireball that caused explosions in the vicinity for over an hour"

Full details :

Kapustin Yar, a supposed Soviet equivalent of Area 51, was not destroyed according to the story (it's all only rumour anyway). But maybe that will help? Maybe it won't?

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posted on Apr, 17 2016 @ 05:05 PM
Strange stuff...
Not like I have never heard this information and more before...
What I'm finding more interesting is the fact Corso was highly intelligent...I have seen other personally hand written and typed documents...
None of which contain the numerous spelling errors and use of other characters...
I think this document is of some greater purpose and could be used to unlock greater information on the matter...

posted on Apr, 17 2016 @ 05:08 PM
a reply to: 5StarOracle

Well, thanks for joining in!

I wouldn't go into the scanned doc too heavily. There is another link with a better scan that has no errors in it.

Here: LINK

I do think he was intelligent, and so that opens up some interesting questions...

- AB

posted on Apr, 17 2016 @ 05:19 PM
My eyes were glued to my computer screen reading Corso's notes.

posted on Apr, 17 2016 @ 05:23 PM
a reply to: AboveBoard

My bad I was assuming the other was some sort of a key for another encoded document...

One of my favorite comments Corso ever made was something along the lines of...
"If you think that's interesting you should see my time machine... I'll be back..."
And oddly enough the roswell craft was said by Corso to have the ability to have no need to traverse at light speed as it was capable of time travel and would go from one point to another instantaneously. ..
Explaining the crafts and others like it.... to be there then gone...
and also the skipping or swimming frog like moments observed by many around the world throughout all time periods...
And that because of man's use of this technology we are now caught in a time loop... as if to portend we are all experiencing effects from this...
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posted on Apr, 17 2016 @ 05:58 PM
a reply to: mirageman

Oh mirage... I do believe it really was more than sticks, tin foil and string... I really do. I've seen what I've seen, and know that UFO's are real.

A Roswell crash... Can I prove it? No. Is it possible it was all a cold war psyop? I don't know that either. Or some horrible interdimentional hell-metal (saw that theory) or a cover=up of a really nasty experiment? Weather balloons??? Nope. I can't say with certainty. Was Roswell a UFO though? Were there EBE's involved????? What end is even up any more with the whole anti=gravity thingy???

Braswell could say what he saw with certainty, and so could a lot of folks. *sigh* Or was it stage-craft to start up rumors?

Was it real? Or just a...mirage...??

OR was it real and wrapped in a mirage?????

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posted on Apr, 17 2016 @ 07:00 PM
a reply to: AboveBoard

First it was a crashed disk...
Then it was a weather balloon...
Then it was project mogul...

What military would test parachutes with child size dummies with heads larger than adults?

Obviously the truth is being denied rather poorly to the people...
that the crash in Roswell happened...
And that the materials technology and beings gathered were not of this earth...

The technological explosion is the best evidence we have... It transpired and the leaps into totally new findings are not the way things normally transpire in new discoveries... It is rather fitting to presume we had a vast amount of materials and established technology from various fields to glean information from...
The fact that many of these new fields are now well established...But still making much new progress and stemming new uses and other technologies...

Well that shows the level of technology that was gathered... and that we are still unlocking many secrets from it...So in other words this technology from the roswell crash is still beyond us...

posted on Apr, 17 2016 @ 07:09 PM
a reply to: 5StarOracle

I lean to your way of thinking on that...I don't think it was a weather balloon or Project Mogul. I think the disinformation specialists have muddied the waters and we are not meant to know what really happened. I think its possible that cold war machinations were part of the whole thing too -- everything was part of the cold war back then, no?

If we DID have a crash, why announce it to the Soviets...unless we knew they had some of that sweet sweet otherworldly tech at their disposal in our race to see who could blow the other one up more spectacularly... We were both reaching for space, for the moon and beyond. If we leaked loudly that we had a crash site and tech too, they would then know they didn't have the advantage over us. There are so many possibilities...

Corso indicated that the Soviets had such crashes in their part of the world too. And possibly the Nazi's came across something back in the day... ???

That's a theory anyway. No proof of it.

posted on Apr, 17 2016 @ 07:21 PM
a reply to: AboveBoard

Perhaps you would find it interesting to look into the words on record from many other military leaders of the well as a very famous German scientist that was tortured upon capture by US forces in Germany along with many other of his top colleague's... All were given the chance to live for further information and personal efforts all packaged in operation paperclip...
The information they provide on UFO'S was rather forth right and not hidden at all... Nor are thier statements made about the possession of any technology from it...But they are rather adamant about the existence of UFO'S none the less...
And if you did not know... the rocket man himself was hands on with the Roswell Incident...

But more in line with the point you are making that it could all have been a ruse to fool the Russians into believing we had something they did not...
Well you tell me... what good is saying something without evidence?
The Russians had information all thier own which was full indication that the story was true and the evidence was tracked by themselves...

Something not talked about a lot...
is the fact most places on earth have had some form of crashes and collected materials from them...
And that the US has stolen almost all of it...
And that includes Russia...
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posted on Apr, 17 2016 @ 07:54 PM
a reply to: 5StarOracle

I'm actually right there with you on Operation Paperclip and the likes of Hermann Oberth, etc.

I was saying that the reason it was made public at all was possibly not an accident, but to openly say "yeah we've got that too!" to the Soviets. So, neither a fake/mistaken terrestrial tech nor a simple botched cover up. Instead it was possibly a conscious effort to BOTH tell the Russians and follow that up with denials to the public.

It's just a theory but it does cover a lot of territory.

I do appreciate you adding all that info in your post!


posted on Apr, 17 2016 @ 08:05 PM
a reply to: AboveBoard

I understand where you are coming from...
but I think the original admission was just that...
an admission...
because the USA and the rest of the world had UFO'S on the brain...
with all of science fiction and numerous well publicized sightings...
such as the sighting by Kenneth Arnold which is in direct correlation with the Roswell Crash...for it was craft from this very armada which were circumnavigating the globe which lost members of thier envoy in Roswell...
So it was pure excitement and well a little old fashioned bragging... with little thought put into the real consequences of making such an admission...
I think all that and the shock of the situation combined with the enormity of it simply was too much to contain... So the statement was made to keep it from being contained purposefully by breaking protocol...
It would have been full knowledge to them that all of this information would be squashed...
Infact many individuals attest to being put under oaths of secrecy the night of the findings...
I guess what I'm saying is the leak was made unpurpose so that there would be a record and so that the truth could be had...
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posted on Apr, 18 2016 @ 01:42 PM
a reply to: AboveBoard

My own view is that Roswell is whatever you choose to make of it.

However it's a fact that the Roswell Daily Record of July 9th 1947 reported the following:

W. W. Brazel, 48, Lincoln county rancher living 30 miles south of Corona, today told his story of finding what the army at first described as a flying disk, but the publicity which attended his find caused him to add that if he ever found anything else short of a bomb, he sure wasn't going to say anything about it.

Brazel was brought here late yesterday by W. E. Whitmore, of radio station KGFL, had his picture taken and gave an interview to the Record and Jason Kellahin, sent here from the Albuquerque bureau of the Associated Press to cover the story. The picture he posed for was sent out over AP telephoto wire sending machine specially set up in the Record office by R. D. Adair, AP wire chief sent here from Albuquerque for the sole purpose of getting out his picture and that of sheriff George Wilcox, to whom Brazel originally gave the information of his find.

Brazel related that on June 14 he and an 8-year old son, Vernon, were about 7 or 8 miles from the ranch house of the J. B. Foster ranch, which he operates, when they came upon a large area of bright wreckage made up on rubber strips, tinfoil, a rather tough paper and sticks.

At the time Brazel was in a hurry to get his round made and he did not pay much attention to it. But he did remark about what he had seen and on July 4 he, his wife, Vernon and a daughter, Betty, age 14, went back to the spot and gathered up quite a bit of the debris.

The next day he first heard about the flying disks, and he wondered if what he had found might be the remnants of one of these............

Source :

Original news clip : click to view

It's a stumbling block to get past. But then the 'official' story is full of contradictions and problems too. How you want to deal with it is up to you and anyone else looking into the case.

This is a really interesting thread with some sterling work by yourself. So please carry on with the good work.

Regards MM

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