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Hungarian Government Says EU Cities Have 900 "No-Go Zones"

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posted on Apr, 10 2016 @ 02:50 PM
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Europe has more than 900 "no-go areas" with large immigrant populations, Hungary's government claims on a hard-hitting new website aimed at drumming up opposition to an EU scheme to share out migrants around the bloc.

In these areas "with a high number of immigrants", for example in Paris, London, Stockholm or Berlin, the authorities have "little or no control" and "norms of the host society barely prevail," the site says.

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A government spokesman stated the information came from “data publicly available on the internet,” without adding any further details.


The website, launched this week ahead of referendum in Hungary in the second half of the year on the EU quota plan, also features a ticking clock representing a migrant entering Europe every 12 seconds.

Check it out for yourself: Original/Translated


The government page entitled “We say no to mandatory migrant quotas” defines the 900 “no-go zones” as “neighbourhoods not under control, or hardly kept under control”, where “the norms of the host society … barely prevail”.

Here’s the best part. Loose lips sink ships and the Hungarian state ministry went on to cite blogs and conspiracy websites as evidence for their claims. Who know, it may be a better source than some paid government think-tank, yet I hardly see how you’d see past your own nose unless having the resources to travel and experience these ares first hand.


According to the government, 751 of the “no-go zones” are in France. The ministry quoted a 2006 blog post about France’s zones urbaines sensibles (Sensitive Urban Zones) by the academic Daniel Pipes, who is said to have first used the phrase “no-go zone” to apply to neighbourhoods with high immigrant populations.

I uncovered a little info on Mr. Pipes and found him to be quite the prick. Just remember, this is from a Muslim perspective and will obviously be trying to tarnish the man in any way possible. I don't think he needs much help.


Daniel Pipes' speech before the convention of the American Jewish Congress on 10/21/2001). "The increased stature, and affluence, and enfranchisement of American Muslims...will present true dangers to American Jews."

"The Palestinians are a miserable people...and they deserve to be." Daniel Pipes, Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 2001

"Western European societies are unprepared for the massive immigration of brown-skinned peoples cooking strange foods and maintaining different standards of hygiene...All immigrants bring exotic customs and attitudes, but Muslim customs are more troublesome than most." (National Review, 11/19/90)

"Iranians and Pakistanis, to take two groups of non-Arabs, are at least as widely conspiracy-minded and as anti-Semitic as, say, Tunisians and Kuwaitis." (Commentary, 9/1/99)

"...black converts tend to hold vehemently anti-American, anti-Christian, and anti-Semitic attitudes." (Commentary, 6/1/2000)

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Daniel Pipes is an ignorant fool. He claims that up to 85% of all American Muslim institutions have been infiltrated by “Islamists.” To him, there is no moderate Muslim presence in America. He also at one time believed that Obama was a practicing Muslim.


Other evidence presented by the ministry included an American’s blog on Sweden with a dead link to a map of 55 “hot zones” identified by the Swedish police, who, the blogger adds, do not in fact use the term “no-go zones”. It also named the trendy Berlin district of Neukölln as a “no-go zone”.

The map has since been removed due to intimidation.


These areas have long had problems with mailmen, fire trucks and ambulances being attacked when trying to enter, which has led to them routinely requesting police escort. Now it’s the police being attacked outright. A new trend is also to map out police homes and families to intimidate and discourage policework, police say.

Another Hungarian blog: Translated (includes errors)




To prove this, an article included, which berlin.de website appeared. And what about that at present there is hardly popular and fashionable area of ​​Berlin, as Neukölln. Although the article actually mentions that in 2006 someone in the neighborhood called no-go zone and the district at that time was bad reputation due to social tensions, but now all the great vibrant nightlife, theaters, pubs, artists moved into quarters and so on.

The ministry also said to have used an article from the The Telegraph as evidence to support their claims. Good grief!

Paris attackers linked to Belgian suburb where the authorities have 'lost control'


Two of the Paris attackers and at least three other people involved linked to a heavily-Muslim suburb of Brussels where the authorities admit they have “lost control”

I don’t know accurate the source is, so I'll have to do more research. There are multiple arguments to be made and I have agreed with some on both sides. At this point, things have gotten so mixed up that any attempt to reverse the migration will lead to unrest.


The official government web page, which went live on Wednesday, also features sections including “The Compulsory Resettlement Quota Increases Terror Risk” and “The Compulsory Resettlement Quota Threatens Our Culture.”

Oh...



However, according to official Hungarian police statistics, that figure inflates the current reality on the Hungarian border by over 6,000%.

What do you think ATS? Is this just a bad April fools joke or is there reason to believe we have completely lost control of certain areas in Europe to extremists? Keep in mind, these “no-go zones” do not single out strictly Muslim populations even though the articles come off that way.

Some faiths (mainly Islamic, lol) will not tolerate another group’s faith and have made that very clear. Law dictated by a person’s faith does not take presidency over the laws of a civilized society, no matter how bad any deity wants it so. That is all.


EDIT: Just to be fair...


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posted on Apr, 10 2016 @ 03:02 PM
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I'd like to know where these 'no go zones' are in London? I'm not aware of any area where you can't go and police have "little or no control" sounds like bullshine to me..
There are of course some areas where your not advised to go around alone at night, but traditionally and without sounding racist, these are areas with a high black population and council housing estates, (I grew up in one such area, and was always fine)
But police have always have maintained control in these areas and even have special teams like trident (black on black crime) operating in those places.
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posted on Apr, 10 2016 @ 03:13 PM
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a reply to: Misterlondon


I'd like to know where these 'no go zones' are in London? I'm not aware of any area where you can't go and police have "little or no control" sounds like bullshine to me..

Well, when a government's source of information are The Telegraph and some activist blogs, its easy to come to that conclusion, lol. What is the motive behind the potential fabrication of fear? Unless there is real fear on the side accepting an immigrant every twelve seconds, this looks like a desperate attempt to cover Hungary's prejudices. With that said, if they're willing to cite Daniel Pipes they don't seem to mind showing them.




posted on Apr, 10 2016 @ 03:14 PM
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Okay I'll speak on these for once. No go zones? Like they're uniquely European Muslim areas? How about all the no go zones for people in America that are most assuredly no go zones if you're not black or white or Hispanic in these areas?



posted on Apr, 10 2016 @ 03:30 PM
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originally posted by: misterhistory
Okay I'll speak on these for once. No go zones? Like they're uniquely European Muslim areas? How about all the no go zones for people in America that are most assuredly no go zones if you're not black or white or Hispanic in these areas?

Agreed. But, to be fair...


Keep in mind, these “no-go zones” do not single out strictly Muslim populations even though the articles come off that way.

From the OP.


Its easy to blame the Muslims and that's what many countries who wish to end immigration expect their citizens to do. Pretty soon, everybody starts looking like a damn extremist.

Many people have already had their views "altered."


What is the overall agenda of the UN and EU?

THAT is the million dollar question.

Oh, I forgot...

Internet, Google, Facebook, GMO's, biometric scanning, vaccines, fluoride and Marxism for all!

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posted on Apr, 10 2016 @ 03:32 PM
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originally posted by: eisegesis
a reply to: Misterlondon


I'd like to know where these 'no go zones' are in London? I'm not aware of any area where you can't go and police have "little or no control" sounds like bullshine to me..

Well, when a government's source of information are The Telegraph and some activist blogs, its easy to come to that conclusion, lol. What is the motive behind the potential fabrication of fear? Unless there is real fear on the side accepting an immigrant every twelve seconds, this looks like a desperate attempt to cover Hungary's prejudices. With that said, if they're willing to cite Daniel Pipes they don't seem to mind showing them.



Is that a true number.. An immigrant every 12 seconds? If so that is truly shocking..

And yes sir you are correct, the telegraph and activist blogs are not a great source for this type of information.

To be honest through my own eyes, I see this new generation of British kids integrating with each other nicely. You often see groups of kids mixed, with black, white, eastern European, Asian, Muslim children hanging out together..
They even have their own dialect and accent now.. Not sure what it's called but it kind of originated from the black population in the noughties. (the decade between 2000 - 2010)
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posted on Apr, 10 2016 @ 03:57 PM
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a reply to: eisegesis

Still, why do we act like it's only in Europe?

The EU and UN are just up to overcompensating political correctness.



posted on Apr, 10 2016 @ 04:11 PM
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originally posted by: Misterlondon

originally posted by: eisegesis
a reply to: Misterlondon


I'd like to know where these 'no go zones' are in London? I'm not aware of any area where you can't go and police have "little or no control" sounds like bullshine to me..

Well, when a government's source of information are The Telegraph and some activist blogs, its easy to come to that conclusion, lol. What is the motive behind the potential fabrication of fear? Unless there is real fear on the side accepting an immigrant every twelve seconds, this looks like a desperate attempt to cover Hungary's prejudices. With that said, if they're willing to cite Daniel Pipes they don't seem to mind showing them.



Is that a true number.. An immigrant every 12 seconds? If so that is truly shocking..

And yes sir you are correct, the telegraph and activist blogs are not a great source for this type of information.

To be honest through my own eyes, I see this new generation of British kids integrating with each other nicely. You often see groups of kids mixed, with black, white, eastern European, Asian, Muslim children hanging out together..
They even have their own dialect and accent now.. Not sure what it's called but it kind of originated from the black population in the noughties. (the decade between 2000 - 2010)


I agree with you, totally.

In fact, kids of different cultures have always mixed quite nicely.

It's always the adults that create the problem and some preach their own prejudices to their children. Then, suddenly on occasions, those mixes become fractured.



posted on Apr, 10 2016 @ 04:27 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: Misterlondon

originally posted by: eisegesis
a reply to: Misterlondon


I'd like to know where these 'no go zones' are in London? I'm not aware of any area where you can't go and police have "little or no control" sounds like bullshine to me..

Well, when a government's source of information are The Telegraph and some activist blogs, its easy to come to that conclusion, lol. What is the motive behind the potential fabrication of fear? Unless there is real fear on the side accepting an immigrant every twelve seconds, this looks like a desperate attempt to cover Hungary's prejudices. With that said, if they're willing to cite Daniel Pipes they don't seem to mind showing them.



Is that a true number.. An immigrant every 12 seconds? If so that is truly shocking..

And yes sir you are correct, the telegraph and activist blogs are not a great source for this type of information.

To be honest through my own eyes, I see this new generation of British kids integrating with each other nicely. You often see groups of kids mixed, with black, white, eastern European, Asian, Muslim children hanging out together..
They even have their own dialect and accent now.. Not sure what it's called but it kind of originated from the black population in the noughties. (the decade between 2000 - 2010)


I agree with you, totally.

In fact, kids of different cultures have always mixed quite nicely.

It's always the adults that create the problem and some preach their own prejudices to their children. Then, suddenly on occasions, those mixes become fractured.


You hit the nail on the head there cobaltic



posted on Apr, 10 2016 @ 04:29 PM
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a reply to: eisegesis

You asked, so I'll share my "take" on this.

First, I'd expect this from the rather reactionary Hungarian regime. Looks to me like they're trying to justify their blocking migrant resettlement into Hungary.

Second, my closest ties to Europe are to Italy. In terms of "neighbourhoods not under control, or hardly kept under control" in Italy, no such zones exist. The Italy I know and have recently experienced is a country living with near martial law conditions, complete with heightened and pervasive militarized State Police presence albeit being the case that this "presence" is seamlessly integrated into the local policing agencies such that it's not readily apparent. (I don't find the words to well describe how they do that. Its a "police state" but the casual observer wouldn't notice the presence). The Italians are entirely and thoroughly in control of all of Italy.

Third, based upon conversations with my ex-pat British friends here in the US, the Brits haven't ceded authority and/or control of anyplace in Britain.

I can't speak to the situation in the rest of Europe. Reports on Al Jazeera seem to indicate that "integration" into the mainstream has been a problem for Muslim immigrants from Northwest Africa in France but I don't have any direct knowledge about that.

The migrant problem in Europe seems quite acute, but then again, I read a report to the effect that Europe actually needs the migrants to maintain some reasonable degree of economic growth because the birth rate in Europe is below replacement rate.



posted on Apr, 10 2016 @ 04:38 PM
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Don't kid yourselves folks - these zones are real. I made the mistake of walking into a muslim zone in a city i was not familiar with. It was made very clear that i was not welcome there. I couldn't get out fast enough. Muslims are NOT all about hugs and teddy bears. As some members have mentioned, the USA may have issues with lawlessness from other groups too.

These are signs that our 'wonderful' multicultural society is fracturing. These groups don't want to join the melting pot, they are trying to form microstates with the goal of overthrowing the rest of us.
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posted on Apr, 10 2016 @ 06:16 PM
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Here come the Muzzies
Theyre after yer couzies
yer sisters and your huzzies....
Blah blah blah....



posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 02:12 AM
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a reply to: eisegesis

The Hungarian government?

I have little respect for governance of the many by the few, but Hungary has a government which I see as being administrated by inhuman purveyors of an outmoded system of thought, related to eugenics and the doctrines associated with Nazi ideology.

The government there could tell me that the sky appears blue due to the refractive index of the chemicals in our atmosphere and I would still have to walk outside and check for myself. I buy the BS they are selling here, at about the same exchange rate that I would buy a Trump campaign promise, or any word spoken by David Cameron in the last few years, that did not directly relate to how he and his band of sociopaths intend to screw my people over next.



posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 03:18 AM
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For europeans, i mean real europeans, not these easter block countries "europeans", those countries like hungaria are complete no-go-zones!

Not because of the people, not because of the landscape, but because of their "rulers", their politics, their mentality of taking but not giving something back. Because of their behavior, taking the worst(and not the best) from both sides, east and west, and putting it together.

As i don´t want to visit the USA for good reasons, so i don´t want to visit any of these eastern block countries in europe again. Not before their nazi and "taker" mentally changed.

Another thing is, did he count the eastern german nazi towns("National befreite Zonen") to those no-go-areas?
Because, normal people can´t go in those towns fulll of crystal meth nazis. Not with a brain, not with hairs(let alone BLACK hairs...), not without combat boots and domestos-washed skinny jeans with suspenders. And, for sure, not without camouflage uniforms and bomber jackets. Most time the uniforms and clothes of the US Army, those clothes from the liberators...


As laughable as those who got crushed by the nazis back in the time, but play nazi nowadays!

I would rather walk through Molenbeek in police uniforms ten times a day, before staying one minute in a mendacious country like hungary. Again, because of it´s "rulers", not because of the majority of it´s people.
Europe was good, everybody was fine with each other, western people did their vacations in eastern europe states, and loved it, because the people were nice there. Nowadays, in EU times, nobody would go east for vacations anymore.

Because the more you went to the direction east in europe nowadays, the more you feel like visiting little wannabe "Third Reich`s", ruled by liars, thieves, oligarchs(ok, the rulers are the same as in the west...), and you feel 25 years back in time there(so, where left all the EU money to build these countries?).

That´s what i call no-go-areas!



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 03:55 PM
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No-go zones in Europe deliberately being supported and created by the governments of the EU to allow illegal drug trafficking. EU economy is partly based on gambling drug money and other illegal activities supported in plain sight by the EU commission and EU member states.



posted on Sep, 25 2016 @ 05:34 PM
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LOL, the Hungarian government is a joke. 900 no go zones? Absolute nonsense.


the Hungarian state ministry went on to cite blogs and conspiracy websites as evidence for their claims.


Hilarious!



posted on Sep, 26 2016 @ 11:53 AM
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No go zones in Europe are a policy of EU government themselves to provide criminals with breeding ground for the only economic activity of the EU. Those are, theft, human trafficking, weapons smuggling, other kinds of smuggling. The EU governments have created no-go zones on purpose. All was inspired by the british opium wars. The difference is that the EU does this war against itself. That's why the collapse is unavoidable
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posted on Oct, 1 2016 @ 01:13 AM
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Come to any more-than-50-thousand-habitants city in Brazil and you'll find many no-go zones.. It's a matter of: "If the government doesn't come to help, now don't come to "save" us, we do it ourselves..."




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