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Europe has more than 900 "no-go areas" with large immigrant populations, Hungary's government claims on a hard-hitting new website aimed at drumming up opposition to an EU scheme to share out migrants around the bloc.
In these areas "with a high number of immigrants", for example in Paris, London, Stockholm or Berlin, the authorities have "little or no control" and "norms of the host society barely prevail," the site says.
The website, launched this week ahead of referendum in Hungary in the second half of the year on the EU quota plan, also features a ticking clock representing a migrant entering Europe every 12 seconds.
The government page entitled “We say no to mandatory migrant quotas” defines the 900 “no-go zones” as “neighbourhoods not under control, or hardly kept under control”, where “the norms of the host society … barely prevail”.
According to the government, 751 of the “no-go zones” are in France. The ministry quoted a 2006 blog post about France’s zones urbaines sensibles (Sensitive Urban Zones) by the academic Daniel Pipes, who is said to have first used the phrase “no-go zone” to apply to neighbourhoods with high immigrant populations.
Daniel Pipes' speech before the convention of the American Jewish Congress on 10/21/2001). "The increased stature, and affluence, and enfranchisement of American Muslims...will present true dangers to American Jews."
"The Palestinians are a miserable people...and they deserve to be." Daniel Pipes, Washington Report on Middle East Affairs, July 2001
"Western European societies are unprepared for the massive immigration of brown-skinned peoples cooking strange foods and maintaining different standards of hygiene...All immigrants bring exotic customs and attitudes, but Muslim customs are more troublesome than most." (National Review, 11/19/90)
"Iranians and Pakistanis, to take two groups of non-Arabs, are at least as widely conspiracy-minded and as anti-Semitic as, say, Tunisians and Kuwaitis." (Commentary, 9/1/99)
"...black converts tend to hold vehemently anti-American, anti-Christian, and anti-Semitic attitudes." (Commentary, 6/1/2000)
Other evidence presented by the ministry included an American’s blog on Sweden with a dead link to a map of 55 “hot zones” identified by the Swedish police, who, the blogger adds, do not in fact use the term “no-go zones”. It also named the trendy Berlin district of Neukölln as a “no-go zone”.
These areas have long had problems with mailmen, fire trucks and ambulances being attacked when trying to enter, which has led to them routinely requesting police escort. Now it’s the police being attacked outright. A new trend is also to map out police homes and families to intimidate and discourage policework, police say.
To prove this, an article included, which berlin.de website appeared. And what about that at present there is hardly popular and fashionable area of Berlin, as Neukölln. Although the article actually mentions that in 2006 someone in the neighborhood called no-go zone and the district at that time was bad reputation due to social tensions, but now all the great vibrant nightlife, theaters, pubs, artists moved into quarters and so on.
Two of the Paris attackers and at least three other people involved linked to a heavily-Muslim suburb of Brussels where the authorities admit they have “lost control”
The official government web page, which went live on Wednesday, also features sections including “The Compulsory Resettlement Quota Increases Terror Risk” and “The Compulsory Resettlement Quota Threatens Our Culture.”
However, according to official Hungarian police statistics, that figure inflates the current reality on the Hungarian border by over 6,000%.
I'd like to know where these 'no go zones' are in London? I'm not aware of any area where you can't go and police have "little or no control" sounds like bullshine to me..
originally posted by: misterhistory
Okay I'll speak on these for once. No go zones? Like they're uniquely European Muslim areas? How about all the no go zones for people in America that are most assuredly no go zones if you're not black or white or Hispanic in these areas?
Keep in mind, these “no-go zones” do not single out strictly Muslim populations even though the articles come off that way.
originally posted by: eisegesis
a reply to: Misterlondon
I'd like to know where these 'no go zones' are in London? I'm not aware of any area where you can't go and police have "little or no control" sounds like bullshine to me..
Well, when a government's source of information are The Telegraph and some activist blogs, its easy to come to that conclusion, lol. What is the motive behind the potential fabrication of fear? Unless there is real fear on the side accepting an immigrant every twelve seconds, this looks like a desperate attempt to cover Hungary's prejudices. With that said, if they're willing to cite Daniel Pipes they don't seem to mind showing them.
originally posted by: Misterlondon
originally posted by: eisegesis
a reply to: Misterlondon
I'd like to know where these 'no go zones' are in London? I'm not aware of any area where you can't go and police have "little or no control" sounds like bullshine to me..
Well, when a government's source of information are The Telegraph and some activist blogs, its easy to come to that conclusion, lol. What is the motive behind the potential fabrication of fear? Unless there is real fear on the side accepting an immigrant every twelve seconds, this looks like a desperate attempt to cover Hungary's prejudices. With that said, if they're willing to cite Daniel Pipes they don't seem to mind showing them.
Is that a true number.. An immigrant every 12 seconds? If so that is truly shocking..
And yes sir you are correct, the telegraph and activist blogs are not a great source for this type of information.
To be honest through my own eyes, I see this new generation of British kids integrating with each other nicely. You often see groups of kids mixed, with black, white, eastern European, Asian, Muslim children hanging out together..
They even have their own dialect and accent now.. Not sure what it's called but it kind of originated from the black population in the noughties. (the decade between 2000 - 2010)
originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
originally posted by: Misterlondon
originally posted by: eisegesis
a reply to: Misterlondon
I'd like to know where these 'no go zones' are in London? I'm not aware of any area where you can't go and police have "little or no control" sounds like bullshine to me..
Well, when a government's source of information are The Telegraph and some activist blogs, its easy to come to that conclusion, lol. What is the motive behind the potential fabrication of fear? Unless there is real fear on the side accepting an immigrant every twelve seconds, this looks like a desperate attempt to cover Hungary's prejudices. With that said, if they're willing to cite Daniel Pipes they don't seem to mind showing them.
Is that a true number.. An immigrant every 12 seconds? If so that is truly shocking..
And yes sir you are correct, the telegraph and activist blogs are not a great source for this type of information.
To be honest through my own eyes, I see this new generation of British kids integrating with each other nicely. You often see groups of kids mixed, with black, white, eastern European, Asian, Muslim children hanging out together..
They even have their own dialect and accent now.. Not sure what it's called but it kind of originated from the black population in the noughties. (the decade between 2000 - 2010)
I agree with you, totally.
In fact, kids of different cultures have always mixed quite nicely.
It's always the adults that create the problem and some preach their own prejudices to their children. Then, suddenly on occasions, those mixes become fractured.
the Hungarian state ministry went on to cite blogs and conspiracy websites as evidence for their claims.