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This is what happens when you have marxist socialist central planning.

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posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 06:47 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

So socialism is right wing? Wait a minute I thought you Marxist left wingers said that Nazism wasn't socialist. Now you are telling me that the socialist part of fascism swings one way then the other. Well then it must be true that socialism really is a bridge to communism just like Marx and Lenin said. I am not buying that socialism is right wing ever, only that Fabian socialism bridges incrementally, therefore in classic Marxist ideology, they use capitalist mechanisms and money to achieve their goals, being that the ends justify the means.
Lets see if we can put this thing to rest finally. National Review Online explains that to a communist, fascism is right wing socialism and socialism is simply to the right of communism. Communism, socialism, and fascism are all three mechanisms of leftist ideology, its just some are more left than others....lol and this is consistent with what Antony Sutton says too, saying its just a fake left/right apparatus of Hegelian dialectic to create a new synthesis. www.nationalreview.com...

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posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 06:55 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
So socialism is right wing?

That was never said.


Wait a minute I thought you Marxist left wingers said that Nazism wasn't socialist.

Don't know who you mean but I'm not a leftist.


Now you are telling me that the socialist part of fascism swings one way then the other.

I'm pointing out he double standard in the way you lump things together.


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posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 06:59 PM
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a reply to: Indigent

Sorry about your situation,Gringo solutions would be a dark way to fix that. Maybe now that normalized relations with Cuba are in play ,things will improve .
It is horrible that sanctions are the approach to unseat tyrants when the people are the victims.
Should just shoot them I say, but I 'm American.



posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 07:02 PM
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oh I see well interesting then because every post I've ever seen from you appears left leaning, or liberal but Im guessing.... das is for Das Kapital? My feeling is that you are playing word games with semantics and probably know I am right but still play this little game because silly Americans won't realize what you are doing...
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posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 07:10 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

DANG Democrats always causing trouble...



posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 07:12 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
oh I see well interesting then because every post I've ever seen from you appears left leaning, or liberal but Im guessing.... das is for Das Kapital? .


That is because I'm usually being critical of the concepts of the right/capitalism by those who seem to elevate them up to mythical scales. Don't need to do that to the left because they did it to themselves.

Das is from das ist gut. And kakik is a traditional Guatemalan dish and together they alude to being "da $#!t'"


ETA: No, I'm serious when I said Mussolini said fascism was right wing and I believe him. It was his baby after all.
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posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 07:14 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

Estimates are about 203 million.



posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 07:18 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: enlightenedservant

DANG Democrats always causing trouble...

I think you should read these 2 posts. There's no point in me having to retype the same things in different threads.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Sometimes it's like a broken record around here.



posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 07:40 PM
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a reply to: enlightenedservant

THEIR idea, their albatross.
I think Johnston was retarded and BUSH has had hold behind the scenes.
What I saw was a smokescreen on TV.



posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 08:12 PM
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There is a difference between socialism and capitalism with socialistic programs tho. But most republicans think and talk in black and white without nuances. As long as it fits their agenda.



posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 08:25 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: enlightenedservant

THEIR idea, their albatross.
I think Johnston was retarded and BUSH has had hold behind the scenes.
What I saw was a smokescreen on TV.

Can you be more specific? I'm not sure what you're talking about?



posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: daskakik

oh thanks for clearing that right up for me
Im guessing Mussolini saying fascism is right wing is about same as Trotsky saying its right wing socialism. Again its still semantics.



posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 08:31 PM
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Whew, well it's a good thing there are no marxists running for president. none that I know of anyway, is there a communist party?



posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 08:44 PM
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I'm not sure why everyone always jumps to this "nationwide authoritarian nightmare" crap when describing socialism.


I'll tell you why. Its because even Lenin and Marx said that socialism is just a bridge to communism and that the "dictatorship of the proletariat" would be needed for the revolution and that the rules of the State would have to be enforced. We see this enforcement in Totalitarian regimes. Mussolini coined that word by the way to denote the way in which the State would have total control over the individual. In Totalitarians such as John Dewey(thank him for our modern educational system) they think that people exist for the State which is Supreme. In general most people are not really happy about giving up most of the fruits of their labor to the State voluntarily. Politicians who want socialism or communism(like Bernie Sanders) know they have to convince people they will be better off giving up most of their paycheck to advance the State with promises for free stuff, and its never free.
I would go so far as to say that even people in the GOP who recommend totalitarian type rules over our lives are more Progressive, certainly not the classical liberals our Founding Fathers were. It should be evident why the ACA is truly part of the Totalitarian Left....it forces people to purchase a product and gives more power to the State and the traitors in the GOP didn't fight it the way they shoulda coulda woulda.
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posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 08:44 PM
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originally posted by: ThirdEyeofHorus
a reply to: daskakik

oh thanks for clearing that right up for me
Im guessing Mussolini saying fascism is right wing is about same as Trotsky saying its right wing socialism. Again its still semantics.


But the double standard is that socialism in nazi is dead on. In that instance it has to be taken at face value.

There are other reasons but like I already said to some authoritarianism = left. It just happens to be more common with Americans right of the center.

But, that isn't so for everyone so you count those deaths on the left and they count them on the right.

Personally I don't care who killed more. Still enlightenedservent is right that both sides have blood on their hands.
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posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 08:54 PM
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both sides have blood on their hands.

At this point both political parties are opposite sides of the same coin, not different coins.....this is what happens in Hegelianism, and the goal of the communist party was to get control of one or both of the parties.



posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 08:55 PM
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The IDEA of the KKK was ONLY inspired by the left,what happens later is nothing.
We have been decieved so much that regular ideas aren't really applicable anyway when using a left/ right paradigms without knowing the corruption in the messages.
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posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 08:57 PM
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a reply to: ThirdEyeofHorus

Political parties? The thread is about Venezuela not US politics.



posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 09:18 PM
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it youtu.be... Donetsk the people on the brink of starvation and suddenly found thousands of tonnes of food oligarch Akhmetov. You think Venezuela is not so? not well searched ... it war, war to death all red blood cattle



posted on Apr, 11 2016 @ 09:29 PM
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originally posted by: cavtrooper7
a reply to: enlightenedservant

The IDEA of the KKK was ONLY inspired by the left,what happens later is nothing.
We have been decieved so much that regular ideas aren't really applicable anyway when using a left/ right paradigms without knowing the corruption in the messages.

That's a flat out lie. The KKK and other American white supremacist groups were allied with the Democratic Party because the Democrats were the racist conservatives back then. As I showed in the links that you clearly didn't read, the racist conservatives switched parties as a result of the Civil Rights Movement and its gains (like the end of Segregation, African Americans gaining the right to vote, and the end of interracial marriage bans).



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