Genesis 1:1

Genesis 1:1 shouldn’t have happened. The bible assumes that the great usurper exits and never questions that assumption. The earth flooded out proves the great usurper is not an unfounded assumption. The beginning of the universe is in Genesis 1:1. Darkness was upon the earth, because it appears the earth is now in some kind of black structure. The great usurper and those who helped him out are swimming around on the earth. Now the earth, the opposite of the created order is ‘nothing,’ (water). But to the ancients, the opposite of the created order was something much worse than ‘nothing’ (chaos). 


God just sat for awhile looking at this new black structure from his throne room, letting the great usurper sweet it out. As the great usurper swam around in this black structure board out of his mind, all of a sudden a wind (invisible force) from God swept over the water. Now God is a spirit being, meaning his body is composed of a substance called spirit. God also has a unique kind of life within that body composed of that substance called spirit, but the eternal life God has within himself produces some kind of light (His glory). It was this glory that used to be the light source to the earth, but God can’t control it, his glory just shines right through his body of spirit. As God sat in his throne room, out of nowhere he said, “Let there be light.” 


Now at one point in time in God’s life, he chose to create some kind of structure that separated him from the empty place outside of that structure. But God was not alone, because God rode around on a kind of throne chariot. God’s enthroned above four magnificent creatures. Each of these has a human body and then four faces: the face of a human, the face of a lion, the face of an ox, and the face of an eagle. These 4 magnificent creatures have the same kind of eternal life that God has within himself, but what these magnificent creatures bodies are made of, is unclear. Not only were these 4 magnificent creatures with God, but there were 24 other individuals with God. These 24 individuals are named Elders and they also have the same kind of eternal life that God has within himself, but these Elders have that eternal life in some kind of flesh and bone body. Now God’s body is different then these 24 Elders and these 4 magnificent creatures. 


We know that God did indeed create some kind of structure around him, because he went to the north side of that structure and laid the north side of it over the empty place that is outside of that structure. It is in the north of the north of that new addition to that structure, that God established a different throne to sit on, because his throne (the Ark) is in the tent that God pitched in the north of the north also. Now the reason God created this structure, it was for the beings he was about to create within it. Now God is going to create the earth in the middle of this structure, but from his throne in the north of the north, he is going to be the light source of the earth. But how can God visit the earth and have a relationship with the beings living on that earth and still maintain the light source of the earth?

a reply to: newnature1

We know that God did indeed create some kind of structure around him

Do we? we dont.

he is going to be the light source of the earth. But how can God visit the earth and have a relationship with the beings living on that earth and still maintain the light source of the earth?

because God is the Sun, the Sun of God - not Son of God Sun has been worshipped for centuries that brings light to the people. Noticed Jesus, Horus and other profits usually have a sun behind their head. Because the human figures are made up and the Sun is the powerful source of all. At least for us on Earth.

this god of yours has killed millions in the bible. and think about this...
christians make up about 30% of worlds population
not every christian goes to heaven
non believers goto hell
therefore around 25% of all humans do not goto heaven.
so its safe to say that of the 7.125 billion people on this planet right now 5.343 billion of us are going to burn in hell for eternity....
your god is evil, hateful, vengeful and to damn that many people to hell is absolutely terrible and to keep family members apart for eternity is worse than any punishment any human has ever endured.

genesis says he did not act alone. he said "we" created man in "our image" and "our likeliness"
so who is we? who is our?

its time to rethink religion

a reply to: nobunaga

Genesis 1:1 is your first clue: In the beginning, God created the heaven and the earth. Do you notice that He did not create Hell? John 1:3 confirms it and states that if He did not, then no one else did either. I have plowed through the entire Bible and have NOT found convincing evidence of Hell. Hell is a 404.

OTOH, I found that God is both willing and able to save us, so we all get to heaven in the end, even those who are tossed into the Lake of Fire. Just like the sea, the LoF must at some point give up its dead.

a reply to: newnature1No Genesis 1:1 shows that God created the heaven and the earth. god never creates anything incomplete.

Genesis 1:2 shows the earth void and without form. this was after the fall of the Cherub that covereth.

This is known as the gap theory. A sequence of events not recorded in the Bible.

Why?

Because the Bible has to do with men and the earth that was made habitable for them. And speaks very little about events that happened before Genesis 1:2. No hell being created mentioned, no angels being created mentioned, no Cherubs and Cherubim being created mentioned, no Chariot throne of God being created mentioned, no Seraphim being created mentioned, no fall of the Cherub that covereth mentioned though you can get some idea in Isa 14:12, Ezekiel 28(?).

But if you are interested in learning more bible search the word beginning and particularly the chronological layout order layed out in Prov 8:22-24. The beginning there is not the same beginning in Genesis 1:1. Nor is the beginning in John 1:1 the same as either of these.

have fun

You will find very little about Heaven in the Bible, thatis the abode of God because it has nothing to do with the here and now of mankind. You will find very little mentioned about what took place before God began his 6 days of work in Genesis one. You will find very little mentioned about what comes to this earth after Revelation 22 because if has nothing to do with the here and now of mankind.

The Bible is a Historical book for mankind, inspired and preserved of God today, it has instruction for Israel to live in the land promised to them and in the kingdom to come. It has a way to escape the shackles of our death that was brought into this world by one man and this death spread to all men, even though none of us sinned in the same manner as he did.

But as by one may came death and spread to all men because all have sinned, so by one man comes eternal life, his righteousness given to you through faith on him. Once the will of God has run its course then those who chose life through Christ Jesus will begin a new in his heaven perfect and without death, disease and corruption of sin.

You believe in that replacement Israel crap. The body of Christ are the saints of a brand new program. While Israel walked by sight, we walk not by sight, but by faith. The focus today is no longer on the outward, but on the inward. God is not giving us those visual manifestations, we have a new apostle through whom we have been given God’s completed instruction. We have not been promised that earthly kingdom, an earthly inheritance. God has prepared a heavenly habitation for the saints of this dispensation, our citizenship is in heaven.

There are a lot of teaching in the bible about heaven, but you are replacement Israel so you will not even try to look it up. Good luck standing at the great white throne judgement standing in your own righteousness.

a reply to: newnature1

No I don't in Israel replacement.

I believe Israel is chosen people of God that is why there are two different programs, one for Israel alone which ended in Acts 7 and will restart when the body of Christ is gathered together into the clouds ever more to be with Jesus.

And one for Today in which all men are saved the same under the Gospel of Grace through faith alone on Christ work for the forgiveness of sin, which will end when the body of Christ is gathered together in the clouds ever more to be with Jesus.

Israel is to live by faith not sight just as much as we are expected to day to live by faith and not by sight.

Show chapter and verse where God describes heaven in the Bible?

Chapter and verse where God tells you of the fall of the Satan and his angels?

Show chapter and verse where the third heaven is described in detail?

Show chapter and verse on when the chariot throne of God was created?

Show the chapter and verse on when Cherubim, Seraphim, Angles and Cherubs were created?

You see you can't. there are none.

See the Bible is limited only to things that deal with this current earth and it inhabitants, that runs its course from Genesis to Revelation.

originally posted by: ChesterJohn
a reply to: newnature1

No I don't in Israel replacement.

I believe Israel is chosen people of God that is why there are two different programs, one for Israel alone which ended in Acts 7 and will restart when the body of Christ is gathered together into the clouds ever more to be with Jesus.

And one for Today in which all men are saved the same under the Gospel of Grace through faith alone on Christ work for the forgiveness of sin, which will end when the body of Christ is gathered together in the clouds ever more to be with Jesus.

Israel is to live by faith not sight just as much as we are expected to day to live by faith and not by sight.

Show chapter and verse where God describes heaven in the Bible?

Chapter and verse where God tells you of the fall of the Satan and his angels?

Show chapter and verse where the third heaven is described in detail?

Show chapter and verse on when the chariot throne of God was created?

Show the chapter and verse on when Cherubim, Seraphim, Angles and Cherubs were created?

You see you can't. there are none.

See the Bible is limited only to things that deal with this current earth and it inhabitants, that runs its course from Genesis to Revelation.

It is good you know about the two programs. Will work on those versus for you.

a reply to: newnature1

the two programs are the Kingdom and the body of Christ.

you may find some hints like Lucifer's fall from heaven, when he walked in the garden of God, and how he was the cherub that covereth. But it is very little info. It gives us just enough to know why sin is on this planet and inside the firmament that was set up in Genesis 1, and is the only thing made that God did not say it was good in the day it was made. Why? Because anything that separates man from God is not a good thing. the only place that has darkness is within the firmament (our known universe) and it is huge and getting larger by the moment until it reaches the fullness of God's plan.

But to keep man from being prematurely destroyed the firmament was made and in the end of Genesis God says, all that he has made is good.

Let's start with the word 'North'. There are only three usages of this meaning of this north.

Isaiah 14:13 - The north, this helps us to localize the dwelling place of God.

Psalms 75:6 - It comes not from the east, nor from the west, nor from the south, therefore promotion comes from the north. The immediate place of God’s throne, to which the great usurper aspires. 


Job 26:7 - Here is that added on room I talk about. “Upon nothing” not on any thing.