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Obama smacks down Trump’s border wall plan

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posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 06:27 PM
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30 -40 billion dollars goes into Mexico from the US outside of government payments.

And they still send millions over to devalue our economy.

#### 'em.




posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 06:34 PM
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a reply to: ladyinwaiting


Ummm...actually when I was stationed in Hawaii...there was an avocado tree above the bleachers at the parade ground...now...those were the best avocado's...

But you can import them from Mexico if you like...don't be alarmed when they're $5.00 a pop though...




YOuSir
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posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 06:40 PM
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a reply to: introvert


Ummm...20% that can be grown just about anywhere here in the US...and those auto parts suppliers came from this side of the border to begin with...they can move on back...after the profit evaporates due to that 35% tax on every thing they produce...

Cool huh...?

But lets all concentrate on employing the world while the 94+million non working actual citizens here in the US get told to pound sand some more...






YouSir



posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 06:41 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
Obama made some comments about Trump's "plan" to stop all the money going South from the U.S.
President Obama on Tuesday bluntly dismissed Donald Trump’s proposal to force Mexico to pay for a border wall as “half-baked” and counterproductive and said the Republican frontrunner’s “wackier” foreign policy ideas were hurting the United States abroad.

Just a thought: We already have a "Mexico/Middle America" refugee problem. How would allowing Middle Eastern refugees help the financial burden we already have with millions of illegal immigrants and no clue as to how to Patriate those that have lived here for years.


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posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 06:41 PM
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Trump's a blowhard that speaks before he thinks but he at least has a handle on what the average American citizen is feeling. Obama may not be able to grasp these same feelings or he's just so far out of the loop decision making wise he's not allowed to say anything that's not scripted for him. But for Obama to lecture ANYBODY on just about ANY issue, criminal, constitutional, political, economic, terrorism, diplomacy, sports betting, is just ludicrous. Obama's a political neophyte that's never had to do anything but parrot whatever opinion he's given.



posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 06:44 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Sargeras

originally posted by: UKTruth
The proposal could 'cause enormous damage to the Mexican economy' - erm, yes, that's the whole point. Is Obama really that stupid and weak?


In a word.... Yes!!

Obama is the worst negotiator of all time, has no concept of leverage in deal making and has no spine.... Cough " Iran nuke deal" cough...


Destroy the Mexican economy and there will be more and more people flooding in to this country.

Do you know what that would mean?


Treat them like Mexico treats south American illegal immigrants and they will stop coming?



posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 06:49 PM
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a reply to: YouSir

Whom is going to pay for all that?

a reply to: Sargeras



Treat them like Mexico treats south American illegal immigrants and they will stop coming?


So we violate the rights of individuals, in direct contrast to the spirit and writings of the what founded the US, in an attempt to send a message to those in other countries that we are barbarians...so don't bother coming over?



posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 06:54 PM
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a reply to: introvert


Ummm...dude you are a dreamer...did you just cross the border headed north...?

Please tell us all when that less immigration across the border is supposed to kick in...
Should we hold our collective breath...?

Who the hell cares if we piss off Mexico and parts south...they're so busy playing the I'm a socialist...er...no...that was last election...we're reformists now...game that people want to flee their countries cause they're leaders are chasing The ayahuasca Chavista high...

It's not up to the US...on the backs of 94 million out of work citizens to nation build south and central America...

If you don't support that ideology in the Middle East...then why my friend do you support it this side of the pond...




YouSir



posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 06:59 PM
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originally posted by: Sargeras

originally posted by: introvert
Sure. Let Trump charge Mexico to build the wall. Assuming they actually pay-up and don't laugh at us for being idiots, all Mexico has to do is put a tax on exports to the US, including a tax on food and automobile parts, and they recoup the loss.

In the end, the US middle class is left paying the bill.


You know most of their food comes from here right?



Only on days when the sky is green and the grass is blue.


They import so little food from here that your claim is ridiculous.



posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 07:04 PM
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originally posted by: UKTruth
The proposal could 'cause enormous damage to the Mexican economy' - erm, yes, that's the whole point. Is Obama really that stupid and weak?


If Mexico hurts, we hurt.

Why is it so hard for Americans to realize the world is larger than just America? We don't rule the world, and we have to play "the game" with other countries. We don't just get a free pass to run around doing whatever the hell we want.

I'm glad people who understand global economics and foreign policy are in charge.



posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 07:11 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
I'm glad people who understand global economics and foreign policy are in charge.

Yes because America is famous for its great foreign policy lmao
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posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 07:15 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom
Mystik? We are the last bastion nation for those seeking true individual Freedom in the world; there is no other to retreat to (unless one includes Canada).
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posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 07:23 PM
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a reply to: MystikMushroom


Ummm...because there are 94 million citizens that have no job here...I suppose that's all good though...hell...why not just make it half...Who cares though...because the world...the world...

Also....just in case you missed it...The Donald also wants to curb that American adventurism...he even wants Europe and our Eastern friends to stand on their own feet instead of using that American prop you just spoke to...

If your so glad they're in charge then why contradict yourself by complaining about ruling the world and free passes for whatever hell they want...

You see my friend that's where the disconnect lies...your ego is at war with your id...come to center Mr. Mystic...those people you love so much that are in charge of global economics and foreign policy...are the very perpetrators that you rail against...

Which is it that you want...?
If we keep playing Ouroboros...it'll be much more than our tail we ingest...we will have consumed the entirety of this country...

Is that what you lefties really strive for...?




YouSir
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posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 07:33 PM
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Ever since Trump started claiming he would build a wall support for A US Mexican wall has gone down across the country significantly.

Trump stories are fun to talk about, but he doesn't have a chance of winning the election he only polls well with republicans and that is a small segment of the voter base.



posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 08:03 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Sargeras

originally posted by: UKTruth
The proposal could 'cause enormous damage to the Mexican economy' - erm, yes, that's the whole point. Is Obama really that stupid and weak?


In a word.... Yes!!

Obama is the worst negotiator of all time, has no concept of leverage in deal making and has no spine.... Cough " Iran nuke deal" cough...


Destroy the Mexican economy and there will be more and more people flooding in to this country.

Do you know what that would mean?



Yeah, a bigger wall.



posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 08:09 PM
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originally posted by: Sargeras

originally posted by: F4guy

originally posted by: UKTruth
The proposal could 'cause enormous damage to the Mexican economy' - erm, yes, that's the whole point. Is Obama really that stupid and weak?


No, he just thinks it's wrong to steal the money from American citizens of Mexican ancestry to keep them from feeding family members in Mexico. But, of course, to some people like you, anything you do to a "beaner", citizen or not, is OK



Or the " beaners " as you called them could always, I don't know, stay in their own #ing country?

I know I know, problem solved, but that doesn't help your bleeding heart right?



Yes, pick their own vegetables and clean their own houses.

Maybe start a biz that's not tourist oriented.



posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 08:12 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen


If Obama doesn't like Trump's plan..any plan..that means it's a good one!



posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 08:17 PM
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originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: xuenchen
If Obama doesn't like Trump's plan..any plan..that means it's a good one!

He is a 'lame duck' President; (his opinion means nothing) unless endorsing/backing another running? Why has he not yet Endorsed anyone running for the Democratic Party ticket to replace him unless he wants a contested Convention and another 'fresh' name is introduced to to waylay Clinton or Sanders campaigns?
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posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 08:22 PM
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originally posted by: vethumanbeing

originally posted by: carewemust
a reply to: xuenchen
If Obama doesn't like Trump's plan..any plan..that means it's a good one!

He is a 'lame duck' President; (his opinion means nothing). Unless endorsing another running? Why has he not yet Endorsed anyone running for the Democratic Party ticket to replace him unless he wants a contested Convention and another 'fresh' name is introduced to to waylay Clinton or Sanders campaign? Who would that Candidate be?


Mooshell?



posted on Apr, 5 2016 @ 08:23 PM
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originally posted by: YouSir
a reply to: MystikMushroom


Ummm...because there are 94 million citizens that have no job here...I suppose that's all good though...hell...why not just make it half...Who cares though...because the world...the world...

Also....just in case you missed it...The Donald also wants to curb that American adventurism...he even wants Europe and our Eastern friends to stand on their own feet instead of using that American prop you just spoke to...

If your so glad they're in charge then why contradict yourself by complaining about ruling the world and free passes for whatever hell they want...

You see my friend that's where the disconnect lies...your ego is at war with your id...come to center Mr. Mystic...those people you love so much that are in charge of global economics and foreign policy...are the very perpetrators that you rail against...

Which is it that you want...?
If we keep playing Ouroboros...it'll be much more than our tail we ingest...we will have consumed the entirety of this country...

Is that what you lefties really strive for...?




YouSir



But it's only fair to turn the USA into Al Bundy.

Right?

Shut up Al and give me some money.



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