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originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: imjack
Also, if Mexico really is run by drug lords, then a crack down on the drug trade (instead of facilitating it!) could well be a lever to pull.
Another insanely good point, as a wall only increases the supply and demand. It doesn't STOP them, it makes it harder, yet more profitable.
Yeah, would love to see the designs drug lords come up with for a fence.
Wonder how many hidden tunnels they'd put in.
Drug lords and fences... we should probably stick with talking about the Mexican govt and walls.
What part of the Mexican government is drug lords are you missing?
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: imjack
Also, if Mexico really is run by drug lords, then a crack down on the drug trade (instead of facilitating it!) could well be a lever to pull.
Another insanely good point, as a wall only increases the supply and demand. It doesn't STOP them, it makes it harder, yet more profitable.
Yeah, would love to see the designs drug lords come up with for a fence.
Wonder how many hidden tunnels they'd put in.
Drug lords and fences... we should probably stick with talking about the Mexican govt and walls.
What part of the Mexican government is drug lords are you missing?
I am rejecting your entire premise.
Why don't you substantiate your claim?
originally posted by: gator2001
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: imjack
Also, if Mexico really is run by drug lords, then a crack down on the drug trade (instead of facilitating it!) could well be a lever to pull.
Another insanely good point, as a wall only increases the supply and demand. It doesn't STOP them, it makes it harder, yet more profitable.
Yeah, would love to see the designs drug lords come up with for a fence.
Wonder how many hidden tunnels they'd put in.
Drug lords and fences... we should probably stick with talking about the Mexican govt and walls.
What part of the Mexican government is drug lords are you missing?
I am rejecting your entire premise.
Why don't you substantiate your claim?
www.reviewjournal.com...
edition.cnn.com...
Here are two links to support that notion. I am sure there are more. I really don't think it is a stretch to think that some members of the Mexican government have their hands and pockets in the drug trade.
originally posted by: imjack
a reply to: UKTruth
I covered your butterfly because you were more less inacurate, but rejecting the whole premise is just wrong too.
1. They have drugs
2. They have corruption
There's some premise there.
The short answer is you're both wrong.
originally posted by: gator2001
a reply to: UKTruth
Yes, it doesn't prove it, but does show ties. I stated they support the notion. My personal belief is they have something to do with it.
I don't think I will go there and investigate. Would you? I don't think I would live very long. What do you think? If you wouldn't feel safe, then what does that tell you?
On the flip side...can you prove that the Mexican government is NOT involved in anyway with the drug lords/drug trade.
Like imjack said, we could talk about our own govt, 3 letter agencies, etc about illegal drug trade activities, but I really don't want to go there now.
originally posted by: imjack
a reply to: UKTruth
Why not? Supply and demand is a possible motive, and artificial supply and demand are even bigger these days as I'm sure a wall would stop nothing.
Either way, don't argue with me, my initial comment was Annee's comment was a waste of time to even dispute. Do you disagree?
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: imjack
a reply to: UKTruth
Why not? Supply and demand is a possible motive, and artificial supply and demand are even bigger these days as I'm sure a wall would stop nothing.
Either way, don't argue with me, my initial comment was Annee's comment was a waste of time to even dispute. Do you disagree?
I am more interested in discussing how the wall could be paid for by Mexico
originally posted by: Annee
originally posted by: UKTruth
originally posted by: imjack
a reply to: UKTruth
Why not? Supply and demand is a possible motive, and artificial supply and demand are even bigger these days as I'm sure a wall would stop nothing.
Either way, don't argue with me, my initial comment was Annee's comment was a waste of time to even dispute. Do you disagree?
I am more interested in discussing how the wall could be paid for by Mexico
Wouldn't matter what anyone presented to you, you'd find an excuse.
Yes, please tell me how to get Mexico to pay for the wall.
originally posted by: Grimpachi
I bet if the money was actually cut off from going back to people families Mexico would simply stop all cooperation in patrolling the border.
Forget putting up more walls because the ones that are there now would be torn down. They would just attach some chains to them and drive off to the scrap yard with them.
originally posted by: UKTruth
I think this is a good negotiating chip that Trump has identified.
originally posted by: peck420
originally posted by: UKTruth
I think this is a good negotiating chip that Trump has identified.
Not really.
Ban remittance to Mexico, they will just send it to an intermediary first. Ban remittance to every host nation of intermediaries and you are gonna be awful short on trade partners.
Trump's plan has zero chance of working because it assumes that anything that occurs between the US and Mexico has no bearing on the relationship between the US and any other trade partner, which is far from the reality.