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So the point of this thread is not about discussing whether your vote matters or not. I would rather concentrate on what we can do to get back our gov't by bringing focus on the one issue that must be fixed before all others, which is corruption and conflict of interests.
called the lie that we, humans all over the world, have a free-market economy, delivered by the capitalistic economical system. That is not the case.
THAT is what needs to be exposed first as THE lie out of which all other lies (political and economical) orginate.
originally posted by: Klassified
a reply to: interupt42
First, you have to overcome the self-imposed ignorance of the masses. You can lead a horse to water... The status quo is miserably comfortable, and people don't want their lives interrupted with something so trivial as educating themselves, and holding their government accountable for their many crimes against humanity. You're right. It isn't going to happen until more people are starving and homeless, waiting in soup lines, than there are people working. I'm not even surer that would work. It didn't seem to work in the 30's. And people haven't really changed a lot.
... This seriously irks me.
So knowing that the gov't , DNC,GOP, and MSM are going to do everything they can to keep focus away from those 6 items : what in the world can we do to get the masses head out of their arises and bring those items to the forefront?
... This seriously irks me. Women worked hard to get the right to vote, as did ethnic minorities. My Mom and her siblings were kids when their parents were finally given the right to vote. They openly tell stories of how their mom (my amazing Grandma) took them with her as she went voting for the first time. They also openly describe how the police had to guard them as the hate groups and others within the majority were yelling at them, spitting on them, threatening them, and more. Their mom told them to etch it into their memories so they'll always remember the importance of voting. (note: 2 of their mom's uncles had previously been killed by Klansmen.)
originally posted by: interupt42
So what do you think we can do to encourage/force the MASSES, MSM,GOP,and DNC to get their heads out of their arses and only focus and discuss:
Never claimed we had a free market which I'm very aware that we don't. Even the article I posted is callled "Major Study Finds The US Is An Oligarchy"
Corruption and lies go together, The lies are a direct consequence of corruption and conflict of interest between the DNC,GOP,MSM, and lobbyist . Hence why corruption should be issue numero uno.
Until you take away the conflict of interest between our congress and special interest groups with deep pockets you will continue to get lies.
You need to tackle corruption first as it effects everything else even political ideals and other lies.
I guess its noteworthy to want to fix the world, Personally I think we are here to be in it, not of it, not a product of this world.
You certainly are convinced of your own view of reality, but it sounds awfully elitist to me.
And when you start talking about "forcing" people to do things your way, you scare me
The only solution you have provided here is a vague idea about boycotting voting as a protest.
So what do you think we can do :
"corruption is direct outcome of pretending to be a democrasy"
Sad reality and rather frustrating when you see how the masses are chasing their tail and ignoring the real culprit of their issues.
Wish I had the answer or people would snap of out it but that doesn't look like it will happen anytime soon.
if you don't have corruption in the first place.
The corruption is what is allowing that illusion of democracy or what ever other political ideal people think they have. Perhaps we are saying the same thing but different ways?