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originally posted by: RAY1990
I'm not a cop.
It's a pathetic weak excuse you just came up with sir, weak and pathetic.
originally posted by: IslandOfMisfitToys
a reply to: Rocker2013
Well if we are talking about accepting risks, remember the thread about the cop who ran over a teacher (with no lights, turn signal etc.). And it was declared by the judge that the cop was in no wrong because the teacher assumed the risk of crossing the road?
Civilians don't put your lives on the line ... just to do your jobs.
However, the misconception that police work is dangerous, propagated by the media and police unions, could become a self-fulfilling prophecy— especially if police believe that they are going into deadly battle when they head out on patrol. They are likely to be nervous and trigger-happy and might affect their decision-making in a stressful situation. The fact is: being a policeman is not one of the most dangerous jobs you can have, according to statistics from the Bureau of Labor. In five years, 2008 to 2012, only one policeman was killed by a firearm in the line of duty in New York City. Police officers are many times more likely to commit suicide than to be killed by a criminal; nine NYC policemen attempted to take their own lives in 2012, alone. Eight succeeded. In 2013, eight NYPD officers attempted suicide, while six succeeded. If police want to protect themselves, a wise move might be to invest in psychiatric counseling, rather than increased firepower.
originally posted by: Snarl
originally posted by: RAY1990
I'm not a cop.
It's a pathetic weak excuse you just came up with sir, weak and pathetic.
I respect your opinion. You and I are not cut from the same bolt of cloth. Our opinions will differ based on life experiences.
I got stabbed once too. Right under the breastbone. Was completely paralyzed from the shock, and the pain, and the reality of what had at that moment just happened. Know what? I learned to never let my guard down again.
My aim is to see how this suspected redcoat specimen contributed to the discussion, is all. I only wish I knew who gave him stars.
originally posted by: DAVID64
How about we stop pretending these guys are going in to battle every time they go out. It's been proven time and time again, police work is no where near as dangerous as they'd like us to believe.
Sadly, I don't have answers for those questions.
I'm from an older generation and a different line of law enforcement. I can see where there are problems, but I don't have the tools to articulate what I know accurately. Am probably not alone here.
I sense a lot of frustration in this forum. Probably added some of my own to it from time-to-time. All cops are certainly not bad. Most cops aren't bad IMVHO either. A few are ... and it's doubtful they last long enough to cause all the angst expressed.
When people really want to make a difference, they'll be the ones who sign-up and take the jobs from the people they're not happy with. I've seen that happen and I've seen what happens to those same folks when the veil lifts from their eyes. It's always amusing.
Bitchin' and moaning isn't a solution.
originally posted by: RickyD
All you had to do was mention APD...those jackasses are about as dirty as you could get. So glad I moved away from that city.
originally posted by: Snarl
a reply to: RAY1990
Sadly, I don't have answers for those questions.
I'm from an older generation and a different line of law enforcement. I can see where there are problems, but I don't have the tools to articulate what I know accurately. Am probably not alone here.
I sense a lot of frustration in this forum. Probably added some of my own to it from time-to-time. All cops are certainly not bad. Most cops aren't bad IMVHO either. A few are ... and it's doubtful they last long enough to cause all the angst expressed.
When people really want to make a difference, they'll be the ones who sign-up and take the jobs from the people they're not happy with. I've seen that happen and I've seen what happens to those same folks when the veil lifts from their eyes. It's always amusing.
Bitchin' and moaning isn't a solution.
originally posted by: VP740
a reply to: StallionDuck
Thanks for the reply. A cop shot an armed man during a drug bust. Knowing he was undercover, my first impression is there was probably a misunderstanding that lead to an accident. You start from the assumption that such a thing is impossible, and the only possible explanation was deliberate and malicious intent to kill without provocation. Later you compare this to a cop seeing toys lying around (not actually in the subject's possession) and blowing someone away. An armed man at a drug bust, and a man who happens to be near a toy (or even a real gun) don't sound like a close comparison to me.
"Do you honestly think I'm saying that people pointing guns at cops shouldn't be shot?"
I didn't say the person in my scenario had the gun pointed at the cop, only that it was ready. But yes, I was honestly wondering how much regard you have for the safety of the police.