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MSM Screams Monarch butterflies Extinction, Yet Monarch butterflies coming back

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posted on Apr, 1 2016 @ 10:03 PM
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Monarch butterflies coming back

If its not the ice melting fear mongering nor terrorist fear mongering nor the Bees dying fear mongering now its Monarch butterflies Extinction fear mongering.

This is getting old fast.
When several news outlets reported the come back of the Monarch butterflies the main big four news outlets kept quiet.
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posted on Apr, 1 2016 @ 10:08 PM
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Why can't something bad actually be happening? Why does it have to be 'fear mongering'?

The world isn't rainbows and unicorns after all. If some major change is happening to, say, very sensitive species that can have a large impact on their loss, should we not care to investigate?



posted on Apr, 1 2016 @ 10:12 PM
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a reply to: Ghost147

There is a difference between legit investigation and fear mongering the screams that Monarch butterflies are near Extinction are the same people who believed that the ice would melt by 2000.



posted on Apr, 1 2016 @ 10:15 PM
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The Monarch butterfly population declined by 80%. Breeding and conservation efforts have helped improve the population growth a little. The very article you site says that while it is an improvement it has to get much better before they are out of danger. The big increase is the covered 10 acres and that is better than last year but nowhere near the 40 plus acres in 2013. They are not even close to being out of the woods. One small problem and they are gone, despite the breeding programs.



posted on Apr, 1 2016 @ 10:15 PM
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a reply to: TaleDawn

Getting old ..really ?....so we are killing species each and every day at an alarming rate see herethat will ultimately really make our lives hard when the tipping point is reached maybe you should start caring ....

Applying the same statistical approach to extinction data revealed a rate of 100 to 1,000 species lost per million per year, mostly due to human-caused habitat destruction and climate change. (See: "7 Species Hit Hard by Climate Change—Including One That's Already Extinct.") To calculate the rate of extinction before modern humans evolved, about 200,000 years ago, Pimm and his colleagues reviewed data from fossil records and noted when species disappeared, then used statistical modeling to fill in holes in the record. That analysis revealed that before humans evolved, less than a single species per million went extinct annually



posted on Apr, 1 2016 @ 10:16 PM
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originally posted by: TaleDawn
Monarch butterflies coming back

If its not the ice melting fear mongering nor terrorist fear mongering nor the Bees dying fear mongering now its Monarch butterflies Extinction fear mongering.

This is getting old fast.
When several news outlets reported the come back of the Monarch butterflies the main big four news outlets kept quiet.


It says they are TRYING to come back with the help of 3 countries and the numbers MUST be4 bigger for them to be resilient. The honeybees are still dying and the ice is still melting. No matter who reports it or how often.
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You should change your title to 'scientists say' rather than 'MSM Screams', or at least something that matches the article.
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posted on Apr, 1 2016 @ 10:24 PM
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a reply to: TaleDawn

Why does a poster have to scream a 2 year barely-statistically-significant study/report is contrary to the truth of the growing endangerment of Monarch Butterflies that is well established and has no element of 'fear-mongering' in it?

Your thread and OP hasn't received any flags or stars for a reason. Let that sink in and get back to championing the increasing decline of Monarch Butterflies. Don't blame the MSM, blame your faculties for not understanding the nature of the problem.

ETA: I see someone believes your nonsense and you now have a flag and star (since I originally posted). Good work spreading misinformation.
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posted on Apr, 2 2016 @ 02:20 AM
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Perhaps what the "MSM" is screaming about is not monarch butterflies the divine creation, but monarch butterflies the "human" twisted perversion. Perhaps it is a threat; someone warning that they will be put in danger if the intended target of the warning does not adjust course.

Perhaps someone is digging too deep?

Or maybe it's just about the original version of Monarch butterflies. I hope it's just that.
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posted on Apr, 2 2016 @ 02:28 AM
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a reply to: TaleDawn

The truth is there in front of our eyes.

Butterflies are a rarer sight in the UK than they were in the past. I haven't seen a monarch since I was a kid. Red admirals are almost extinct in NW England. There used to a dozen or so common species in English fields and gardens and they're down in all areas. Some species have vanished and the ones remaining are fewer in number.



posted on Apr, 2 2016 @ 02:42 AM
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a reply to: Kandinsky

Same, when I was a kid, I used to see bunches of monarchs all over my school playground and in my own backyard. I'm lucky if I see anything resembling a butterfly today, anywhere.



posted on Apr, 2 2016 @ 02:46 AM
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originally posted by: Aedaeum
a reply to: Kandinsky

Same, when I was a kid, I used to see bunches of monarchs all over my school playground and in my own backyard. I'm lucky if I see anything resembling a butterfly today, anywhere.




Dragonflies too. Don't see as many any more.

I remember rescuing butterflies that had gotten stuck inside. That hasn't happened for years now. Truly sad to consider it.



posted on Apr, 2 2016 @ 02:48 AM
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a reply to: Kandinsky

The dragonfly population is heavily regulated by the annual rainfall and heat. So that is subject to change year to year naturally.

We sometimes get tons and tons of dragonflies one year, then very few the year after, then moderate the year later, and tons again the year after that. All dependent upon rain and heat.



posted on Apr, 2 2016 @ 02:54 AM
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a reply to: Ghost147

True enough.

It's really the habitats that are gone that account for the drop in populations in NW England.



posted on Apr, 2 2016 @ 08:36 AM
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a reply to: TaleDawn


I bet I could see the lack of Monarchs better if'n the planes in the sky didn't leave those trails behind them...


namaste



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