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The Popes established their totalitarian authority in 495 AD, but the Quran wasn't written until 632 AD. So the Catholic Church was well established long before Mohammed was born.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: BELIEVERpriest
Muhammad used a lot of both Jewish and Christian doctrine in his book.
You can look on this several ways. I'll hit two:
1.) If you are going to claim you are the next prophet of God come to set the faith on its true path, you are going to build on elements of the faiths that came before. Notice that Jesus did not wholly reject the Old Testament, only the state of its priesthood and legalism.
2.) If God really did decide to send another prophet to clean up how we are getting it wrong, then is He going to utterly scrap everything He did before or is it more likely He is sending a message to get back on the straight and narrow like Jesus did?
Muslims believe in #2. The rest of us believe in #1. Atheists don't believe in anything.
But in short, either way you look at it, it makes perfect sense for the Koran to dovetail and mirror scripture, even borrow from it in places given what Islam is said to be.
originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
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originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: sHuRuLuNi
So you are saying that Muslims do not believe that Muhammad actually received divine revelation of any kind but just sought to make up something so he could create a religion in an attempt to co-opt believers out of both Christianity and Judaism?
That is what I was implying with #1.
So I think you misunderstood me and really meant that you believe #2 - Muhammad received authentic revelation. Yes, I get that he claimed to have received them via Gabriel and not God himself, but they still were supposed to be from God ultimately.
Christians don't believe Muhammad was an authentic prophet much like Jews reject that Jesus was the Messiah.
The Catholic Church was legally established by the Theodosian Code on 27 February 380AD. The term 'Catholic', however, had been in use by Christians since considerably earlier. As most people know, it means ‘universal’.
In the first and second centuries, before Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire, the Bishop of Rome was supposedly the senior official of the Church and the arbiter of doctrinal disputes. This ceased to be the case after the Emperors took up Christianity and settled down in Byzantium, which they renamed Constantinople. The various Christian communities of the Empire began to go their separate ways.
On March 26, 429, Emperor Theodosius II announced to the senate of Constantinople his intentions to form a committee to codify all of the laws (leges, singular lex) from the reign of Constantine up to Theodosius II and Valentinian III. Twenty-two scholars, working in two teams, worked for nine years starting in 429 to assemble what was to become the Theodosian Code. The chief overseer of the work was Antiochus Chuzon, a lawyer and a Prefect and Consul from Antioch.
Their product was a collection of 16 books containing more than 2,500 constitutions issued between 313 and 437
No, but they are principle sources for a lot of the history of Rome that no one questions quite like they do religious history.