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Evidence that God did not create Man

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posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 10:11 PM
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It would be ignorant to believe planet earth is the only planet in the entire universe to hold intelligent.

Today man is still in the early stages of what is outside of our planetary system, even with the advance technologies of Satellite and advance telescopes.

Today we are taught that man evolved from primates, yet I have seen no evidence of primates evolving to man, no bones, or fossils have been found to prove this theory. This theory was established by Charles Darwin. The theory of evolution by natural selection, first formulated in Darwin's book "On the Origin of Species" in 1859.

As I was growing up I attended different churches and was taught that God created man, and that man did not evolve from primates.
For a while I believed that God created man and never questioned it.

However, during the years I decided to do some serious research into Religion and found out that according to the Bible earth is only 6,000 years old, wait a minuet! That cannot be right. Man has found fossils going back for millions of years and Ruins of ancient architecture found all over the world, some dating as far back 10,000 years ago.

I believe man was created around 150 thousand years ago, and not from evolution, and not from God.

Also it is interesting that when man suddenly appeared on earth he is intelligent and understands art, mathematics, language, music, Architecture and so much more.

THE ORIGIN OF MAN


Throughout the late 19th century the theory of evolution has been notoriously destructive to dogma of both ordained and laymen alike. Synonymous with adaptive change, evolution is the process of successive transformation that defines an organism over time. As a result of environmental stimuli these differences ultimately improve the organism as it spirals towards perfection. The concept of evolution has become ingrained in the scientific community in regard to all observable living organisms on this planet. In our human story, this process continues on from where it started several thousand millennia ago. The most recent form of man, known as Homo sapiens sapiens, is believed to be a result of an evolutionary process that would have occurred over the last 100-250 thousand years. Homo sapiens sapiens, Cro-Magnon man, or the anatomically modern human is you, your physical make up. It is the most current evolutionary version of our physical bodies.

I would encourage that the reader set aside preconceived notions, and evaluate the forthcoming narrative through their own discernment to reach a conclusion. I am not here to tell the reader how they must interpret the data, nor am I going force you what to believe. My goal here is simply to offer it up for analysis by a larger audience, and work to create more awareness as to the nature of our combined reality.



The story below directly stems from remote viewing data produced in September of 2012. This project was originally tasked in three separate parts, and I believe it would be best described in this same sequential manner.

THE ORIGIN OF HOMO SAPIENS SAPIENS

In an attempt to fully flesh out the narrative, elements of what science and history claim as fact have been intertwined with the remote viewing data to paint a more complete picture. As a result, our story begins approximately 150-250 thousand years ago. According to the fossil record this is the time frame in which our remote viewing data most likely is pointing towards, in an area that closely resembles North-East Africa.

The origin of Homo sapiens sapiens starts inside a protected, artificial structure. It appears to be a domed construction that has been placed in a strategic location, and is disguised in some fashion. There exists the impression of illusions related to this fortified structure, and most likely some type of camouflage is being utilized. There is also a protective chasm around the area; a deep crevasse or canyon is most likely. This structure is well protected and hidden from plain view. In addition to this structure, several viewers perceived the concept of communication with a far off and distance place. The ongoing activity at the site is being reported across a vast distance to a remote location.

Inside of the structure is a secretive area that appears to be a laboratory that is described as fervent, busy, and very active. There are people here that are working in tandem with one another. The concepts related with these individuals involve telemetry, monitoring, life-support, data collection, and observation. There is high technology present in this place, and the activity is described to be like an ant farm where there is a large volume of movement all together in one space.

This appears to be a main hub or control room. The individuals present are humanoid and communicate like we do. The viewers perceived them to be like doctors and scientists. There is one present that appears to be the lead officer at the site. This individual is a highly trained specialist in what is considered classified research. They feel frustrated, disgruntled, and desperate about something occurring. There is clearly more backstory to this facility and its inhabitants than the remote viewing work initially lets on, but it supports the existence of a multifaceted history that will require additional projects to fully illuminate.



THE ACTIVITY AT THE SITE EXPLAINED

www.thestateofreality.com...

Please go to my above source to read the rest.

THE PURPOSE OF THE ACTIVITY EXPLAINED
You will also read EVIDENCE THAT THERE IS MORE TO THE STORY


If the reader is new to remote viewing then it’s quite possible that they will view the story presented above as nothing more than the work of a creative imagination. The above picture is indeed a fantastical tale, and should the reader be unaware of the nature with which the data was gathered then it might easily be dismissed. However, I would simply like to repeat that the majority of the information presented herein was gathered across a team of remote viewers that were working independently of one another while blind to the nature of their target.

Personally, I look back upon this project with high regard and find its ramifications staggering. As one of the project viewers, this was my first collaborative effort as an operational remote viewer. The result of this work has had a lasting impression upon my current view of our species. Prior to this project, I have always been skeptical of religious and scientific dogmas. The resulting data initiated a massive personal paradigm shift that was so jarring I now perceive the world in a completely different way.

I would venture that the team of scientists described in the work may very well have repeated this process in more locations than just Earth; perhaps many times over the past 150,000 years. The evidence suggests that this event was impromptu, disorganized, and done out necessity during a conflict. There were impressions that this occurred in a rushed manner and with a sense of urgency. It appears that this group was slightly out of their league, and it’s conceivable that perhaps this was their first attempt in altering another species genetic destiny.

www.thestateofreality.com...

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posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 10:13 PM
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The breadcrumb for future projects is the data regarding the warring factions, which demands further investigation. What knowledge exists behind the purpose of the origin of modern man? This topic will be the subject of future articles since the SOR Team has put additional effort into understanding the issue. We have explored many additional facets to this story, and I believe once revealed its implication will dwarf the original project.

In conclusion, I cannot help but wonder how many times this process may have occurred in the history of Homo sapiens. Has this kind of manipulation taken place since we were primordial soup? Is the process still going on to this very day? Might accounts of abduction be related? The evidence begets more questions, and requests more of our attention moving forward.

www.thestateofreality.com...

I know, I know, some of you will claim remote viewing is not accurate, and I do agree amateur remote viewers do not get their information correct.

However, I do believe remote viewers that have been trained specially from our military and have 20 to 30 years experience are the real experts in being very credible and very accurate.

Proof that Remote Viewing can be very accurate.

Shocking Discoveries Made: Studies Confirm The Reality Of Remote Viewing

www.collective-evolution.com...

Wikipedia BS on Remote Viewing


In 2013, fundamentalist skeptic Susan Gerbic popularized the idea of Guerrilla Skepticism. In a presentation supported by the James Randi Educational Foundation, she outlined her efforts to actively recruit, train, and mentor editors that set out to bend the spirit of the rules of Wikipedia. She admitted to colluding with hundreds of editors in secret Facebook groups that actively perpetuate their personal agendas by controlling Wikipedia articles, suppressing alternative views, and frustrating opposing editors that do not align with their ideologies. Topics considered as an affront to the skeptic’s doctrine, particularly areas of investigation considered fringe, are tightly guarded by these internet activists. Unsurprisingly, the majority of these editors are not actually scientists, and they are uninterested in following the scientific spirit of open inquiry. Anything that cannot be accounted for within the limitations of current scientific knowledge is deemed illusory and deserves zero tolerance.

Regrettably, the topic of remote viewing has not been left unscathed. Even with over 20 years of meticulous lab research, a fully funded military intelligence unit, a plethora of published peer-reviewed scientific journal articles, and hundreds of declassified operational success stories, remote viewing is still most often attributed to nonsense. The remote viewing Wikipedia page, which comes up as the number one google search result, states that the top-secret research and operational program was terminated after it failed to produce any useful intelligence information. It also states that there is no credible scientific evidence that it works, and should be regarded as pseudoscience.

The Wikipedia entry goes on to claim that the experimental results of the government’s research program were nothing higher than what random chance would allow. The article quotes a multitude of skeptic material including: The Skeptical Inquirer, members of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry (CSI), The James Randi Foundation, who hosted the Guerrilla Skepticism presentation noted above, and various authors from books like, Beyond Belief: Skepticism, Science and the Paranormal, and The Borderlands of Science: Where Sense Meets Nonsense. There are currently 41 footnotes on the remote viewing Wikipedia page, and the vast majority of the referenced material not only promulgates scientism’s agenda of a materialistic universe, but it also thoroughly distorts, misinforms, and in some cases blatantly lies about the history and supporting evidence of the extra sensory phenomenon known as remote viewing.


www.thestateofreality.com...

And to back up more proof that Wikipedia is BS go to their 911 page.


THE TRUE HISTORY OF REMOTE VIEWING

www.thestateofreality.com...


IRREFUTABLE REMOTE VIEWING PROOF


In one instance, a validation target was chosen by a figurehead at the CIA, and he opted to see whether or not the remote viewing team would be able to accurately describe his friend’s vacation cabin in West Virginia. To ensure no collusion could occur within the research project, none of the team members, including the physicists, were told the designated remote viewing target.

Pat Price and Ingo Swann were the two remote viewers who worked on the project. Ingo described that there really wasn’t much going on at the target site, simply some woods and a few cabins. However, unbeknownst to the project tasker, just over the ridge from his friend’s cabin was a top-secret NSA research facility. During the remote viewing session, Ingo quickly picked up on this hidden complex and began to describe it, figuring that it was the intended target since there wasn’t much going on near the original coordinates that were provided. Additionally, it was later discovered that the greater the effort expended to hide a person, place, or thing, the brighter it shines and stands out to a remote viewer.

When Pat Price viewed the validation target, he also picked up on this facility. Being slightly more adventurous than Ingo, he decided to move his mental perception down into the underground hallways and recite the name tags of people walking around in the building. He also stumbled across a room that contained a locked safe with documents inside, and was able to describe what was written within.

After the remote viewing team completed the project and passed the information back to the CIA, the entire intelligence apparatus of the country, including law enforcement, showed up at SRI’s doorstep demanding answers. The NSA facility did actually exist, and the remote viewing report was so accurate that the team was interrogated on the premise of national security.

A CIA evaluation statement about the event was declassified in 1996, and reads, “Pat Price, who had no military or intelligence background, provided a list of project titles associated with current and past activities, including one of extreme sensitivity. Also, the codename of the site was provided.” This started a congressional investigation called by the US Intelligence Oversight Committee to determine if there was a security leak. After a five year investigation the parties involved were cleared, and the future head of the CIA, John McMahon, made the decision to start actively using the remote viewing team against the Soviets. They were given the green light to proceed with their research, which lasted for an additional 15 years.


STATISTICAL EVIDENCE

www.thestateofreality.com...


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posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 10:13 PM
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STATISTICAL EVIDENCE

www.thestateofreality.com...

There is plenty more on this topic in my above source.


The fact is, from the beginning of man kind the phenomenon of UFO’s has been reported, carved, painted, and written about going as far back to the beginning of man kind.

Interestingly many of us have never experience seeing a UFO or strange phenomenon, it does not mean they do not exist. On the contrary they do exist.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 10:25 PM
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Just because you don't understand evolutionary theory does not mean that "aliens did it", that's just as silly as saying "gawd did it"

K~



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 10:43 PM
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a reply to: Informer1958

I applaud you for your "out of the box" thinking and research.

We certainly don't have the truth when it comes to man's origins. Whether it is forbidden archaeology, forbidden knowledge or....that we just don't know...is anyone's guess.

Man thinks he is so smart...and that we have all of the answers. I think it just kills us to realize we are still in kindergarten.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 10:44 PM
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It would be ignorant to believe planet earth is the only planet in the entire universe to hold intelligent.


While there may be people who have travelled farther than the moon, "ignorant" implies you have proof of intelligent life on other planets. Please share.




Man has found fossils going back for millions of years and Ruins of ancient architecture found all over the world, some dating as far back 10,000 years ago.


Dating buildings is tricky, please share your technique.

Fossils yes, millions of years how? Please share your dating technique, unless you believe radioactivity or lack thereof indicates old age, because I'm out of laugh about that.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 10:46 PM
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a reply to: aethertek


Just because you don't understand evolutionary theory


Besides you demonstrating your ignorance here, how on earth do you come to the ridiculous assumption that I do not understand Darwin silly evolutionary theory?

And how does your comment address Remote Viewing?



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 10:50 PM
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Hmmm,LOL my ignorance?

Aliens did it, remote viewing, hocus pocus abracadabra.

Were the aliens reptiles, you know like our reptile overlords who live in underground cities, herp de derp?

K~



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 10:52 PM
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While there may be people who have travelled farther than the moon, "ignorant" implies you have proof of intelligent life on other planets. Please share.


Ignorance is you demonstrating that "you believe" there is no intelligent in the entire universes but of only man.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 10:54 PM
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Ignorance is you demonstrating that "you believe" there is no intelligent in the entire universes but of only man.


I don't believe that, so it cannot be demonstrated.

Your use of the word "ignorant" is interesting, in that it does not fit its definition.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 11:02 PM
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a reply to: aethertek


Hmmm,LOL my ignorance?

Aliens did it, remote viewing, hocus pocus abracadabra.

Were the aliens reptiles, you know like our reptile overlords who live in underground cities, herp de derp?

K~


How about opening your mind and step outside the controlled paradigm and do some thinking here. You know you are allowed to think outside the box, don't you?

However if you have nothing to contribute that is interesting in a positive manner concerning this topic but ridicule, perhaps moving on to a different topic on ATS that is more to your understanding and liking is what you should do.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 11:09 PM
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Apparently some in here lack any understanding on remote viewing and have demonstrated that they did not read any of the sources I presented.

This thread and it topic is opened to all "opinions" however I will not respond to ignorant, and ridiculing comment toward me personally.

I found this topic very interesting and have put a lot of time in it and wanted to share this information to ATS members that have an interest in such topics.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 11:19 PM
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Oh I can think outside, it's just that I know you're wrong & I have proof, real proof.

Cockroaches, unchanged for eons & scientifically proven to withstand nuclear annihilation, obviously they're the dominant species.

Sure we think of them as just bugs but they're super sentient DNA splicers & dicers.
Why that is just common knowledge throughout the galaxy, & I am astounded that you're ignorant of that fact.
Well to your credit their labs are hard to discern being so small & who would even think to look.
But now you know, you're welcome.

They genetically engineered humans ages ago for your trash.
Why search for food when you can tailor make an easily manipulated monkey who will keep you fed fat & happy.

So there you have it cockroaches did it.

K~

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posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 11:23 PM
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We all evolved from stars.

m.livescience.com...


"We are a way for the universe to know itself. Some part of our being knows this is where we came from. We long to return. And we can, because the cosmos is also within us. We're made of star stuff," Sagan famously stated in one episode.

His statement sums up the fact that the carbon, nitrogen and oxygen atoms in our bodies, as well as atoms of all other heavy elements, were created in previous generations of stars over 4.5 billion years ago. Because humans and every other animal as well as most of the matter on Earth contain these elements, we are literally made of star stuff, said Chris Impey, professor of astronomy at the University of Arizona. "All organic matter containing carbon was produced originally in stars," Impey told Life's Little Mysteries. "The universe was originally hydrogen and helium, the carbon was made subsequently, over billions of years."


So we got a beginning, it's just working out the middle that's the challenge.

Or some man in the sky said abracadabra and poof, here comes Adam!
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posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 11:27 PM
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Scripture refers to other beings from before this planet. All kinds of other beings. It says they applauded when Earth was created. Only certain types had a close enough DNA structure to procreate with humans and they did. Their addition of DNA caused a mess which was dealt with and is still swept under the carpet and hidden to this day. Aliens in the Bible? Yep, And plenty of them, all kinds. Many of us still carry their DNA
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posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 11:29 PM
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I kind of dig what you had to say here...
my thinking is different but also somewhat similar...
If you take the story of the garden of eden...
and you do not limit the story to just Adam and Eve but perhaps all of mankind that existed then in the realm refered to as the garsen of eden...
And you contemplate that man dwelt amoungst beings that were superior and that man was not mortal... well then I begin to think perhaps this was nowhere on earth and that infact it may not even have been in this dimension...
and you take the story of sin and think of it as criminal activity...
Then I take into consideration also the banishment from the garden of eden...
And also the war that is said to have taken place this is said to have been a rebellion...
And the total number to have been a 3rd of the population...
Then I consider a judgement being passed and the decision made to rid the society of the 3rd that rebelled and to remove them from the garden of eden completely...
Now being highly intelligent...
technological marvels such as ufos or the capabilities we propose for them from our limited knowledge and understanding was a reality to them....
So this technology or ufos if you will were than implemented to execute the order of removing us from the garden of eden...
So the ufos brought all of our criminal ancestors here and stayed for a time as commanded to ensure that the planet was cleansed of life forms and conditions that would threaten the chance of our continued survival...
And to introduce organic life for sustenance...
When our ancestors first got here lifespans were much longer for them and gradually things like the suns radiation was a degrading factor in longevity and overall wellbeing of us thier progeny...
As time passes and the elders are outliving thier grandchildren and those who brought us have left us behind and returned from where we came and all technology is lost...
Well it is then these cave wall paintings etc were used as illustrations by the communal fire to teach the younger generations about our arrival and those who brought us and watched over us for a time...
Not saying that's what I believe but it's something I contend to be a possible scenario...
But my way could still include God...



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 11:34 PM
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Oh I can think outside, it's just that I know your wrong & I have proof, real proof.


I am not interested in Darwinism, if you want to believe in a conspiracy theory then Darwinism is for you.


Cockroaches, unchanged for eons & scientifically proven to withstand nuclear annihilation, obviously they're the dominant species.


You just demonstrated my point in your Darwinism theory, why has the cockroaches not evolved after millions of years?

I guess you believe man evolved from neanderthals to? Where is your evidence that proves this? There is none, that is why.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 11:46 PM
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Wait? Remote viewing isn't a conspiracy theory, well fantasy, but science is?

The beauty of science is that it isn't written in stone. There is a fundamental foundation but its constantly being expanded on.

This remote viewing session that claims it saw the beginning of humankind isn't proof of anything. Sure, we can have an open mind and put it on the maybe list because nothing is written in stone but don't go attacking people because they don't believe in this.

So this is what you believe wholeheartedly or are you just throwing it out as a "maybe"?

Btw,

Sex with Neanderthals may be the cause of modern allergies, studies suggest



Studies suggesting that prehistoric interbreeding between early humans and neanderthals could have resulted in modern allergies have been published in the American Journal of Human Genetics, a high-profile journal dedicated to the study of our genes. The theory states that unusual genes that can cause allergies were passed on to early humans when they bred with Neanderthals and Denisovans, a separate species of early hominid who lived in Asia, after humans migrated out of Africa.

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posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 11:52 PM
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oh daer - another level of unevidenced complexity - that simply begs the question : explain the origins of mans " creators "

it would not be so bad if you demonstrated at least some understanding of the evidence of hominid emergence - but no



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: 5StarOracle

Thank you for your kind input and I agree with a lot to what you have said.

I also believe in God.

However I believe it was possibly around 150 to 250 thousand years ago that another species of great high intelligent came to earth to create a new species of intelligence by using the last known Hominoid species here on earth and manipulate their DNA and perhaps even added their own DNA in the process.

The question is why? what was their purpose into creating man? Was it to help transformed the planet with a new species of intelligent and have they done this on other planets as well?

According to remote viewers and the blind study they did, it opened the door to more questions.

My understanding is the Remote viewers are going to do more blind studies to get more answers in the near future and publish their work. I am looking forward to the outcome and hope we get more information that answers some of our questions.




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