Trump call to punish women for abortions

originally posted by: burgerbuddy
They "cull" their own?

Is that what let's you think abortion is ok?

We are "culling"?

Gee, why not say, "thin the herd"?

Sure, why not say it???

Are you claiming that all other species and nature itself is wrong and you know better???

originally posted by: TheBulk

originally posted by: windword


A fertilized egg is NOT a baby. An embryo is NOT a baby. A fetus is NOT a baby.

Yeah, it could be a frog or elephant. You just never know. It could be anything!

I was hoping for puppies but got a daughter, instead.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: TheBulk

Yeah, it could be a frog or elephant.

This is the kind of intellectual dishonesty and down right ignorance that propels the "forced birth/anti-choice" crowd!

Is it a human fetus?

A human embryo?

Who is being the ignorant one, here?

originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: Annee

I am also not anti-adoption nor pro-abortion...very complex social issue, I must say.

No one is pro abortion.

People are Pro Choice. The right of the woman to make a choice.

a reply to: burgerbuddy

You don't seem to be able to follow a conversation. Perhaps you should go back and reread the conversation before you try to interject with your non sequitur nonsense.

a reply to: burgerbuddy

So what???

What is so special about a Human fetus??? Humanity destroys every form of life it's ever encountered for either food or fun. That includes other Humans as well. We do it with sport, for pleasure, war, or just plan experimentation.

Humans also abuse and torture so many other life forms in the most horrid ways imaginable.

Sometimes a human ends up being a great thing. Sometimes not. Sometimes they end up becoming something that should never have been born. That's a fact. Why sugar coat it in to something else.

Humanity isn't special even though occasionally some people are.

a reply to: Annee

There re not many choices out there for women, except abortion; 1 in 3 women living in the U.S. had an abortion.

originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: UKTruth

Mr. Trump answered the question honestly as per his religious beliefs, but I do agree that Mr. Trump needs to start thinking on a deeper more practical level.

He did he just got caught in a logic trap. If a state or federal made abortion illegal than by that very fact a woman that gets an abortion would be at the very least siding and abetting a crime. The doctors can't perform an illegal abortion without them. Saying they can break the law with no consequences but instead charging the person who assists them in their goal is like prosecuting the driver of a bank robbery but letting the bank robbers go free.

I learned a long time ago you can't use logic on certain issues abortion being one of them. And compromises have been made and we see that doesn't work either we just have two sides unhappy. Bottom line is the only reason trump was asked this is a gotcha question. His opinion on it means nothing a president can't overturn the supreme court. This is just an attempt to create an issue to influence voters and trump fell in head first.

a reply to: dragonridr

As always, Mr. Trump answers honestly.

originally posted by: InTheLight
1 in 3 women living in the U.S. had an abortion.

I have a problem with that kind of wording of that statistic. I'm not saying the numbers aren't right but representing it like that doesn't seem honest.

Because it's not one in three women really. Some women have a lot of abortions and some have none at all. So it's not really one in three but one in some other much higher number. But that higher number has more than one abortion.

originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: burgerbuddy
It's legal.

Doesn't square morally with you, does it?

Sniper target shouldn't have done something to get sniped, criminal shouldn't have done the crime if they can't do the time.

The unborn?

Spontaneous pregnancies should be legal to abort.

Abortion is legal too.

Who says a sniper target has done something to get sniped?? Some people are targets because someone else is just a murderous A-Hole.

Still legal isn't it?

70 million abortions since RvW.

Who is the murderous one?

originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: dragonridr

As always, Mr. Trump answers honestly.

To bad he doesn't answer intelligently though.

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: burgerbuddy

Doesn't square morally with you, does it?

Morality isn't black and white, it's a complicated and personal concept.

I'll take that as a yes.

thank you.

a reply to: mOjOm

That's a whole other thread.

originally posted by: burgerbuddy

Still legal isn't it?

70 million abortions since RvW.

Who is the murderous one?

That's because it's not murder. So I really wouldn't know.

originally posted by: InTheLight
a reply to: mOjOm

That's a whole other thread.

a reply to: dragonridr

If abortion was made illegal it would open the door for prosecuting women that had miscarriages the same way women in other countries with such laws have been prosecuted. There have even been a few weird cases in the US where women have been prosecuted for miscarriages.

It wasn't a logic trap, but it did require some knowledge and thought on the issue which he showed none.

a reply to: burgerbuddy

No. You've completely missed the point of the conversation and went off a tangent that had nothing to do with the subject at hand. And no, the question I posed doesn't offend my personal moral compass.

originally posted by: mOjOm

originally posted by: burgerbuddy
They "cull" their own?

Is that what let's you think abortion is ok?

We are "culling"?

Gee, why not say, "thin the herd"?

Sure, why not say it???

Are you claiming that all other species and nature itself is wrong and you know better???

How do they do this "culling"?

So you are on the same level as an animal?

originally posted by: windword
a reply to: burgerbuddy

You don't seem to be able to follow a conversation. Perhaps you should go back and reread the conversation before you try to interject with your non sequitur nonsense.

Lol!

Well? Cat got your tongue?

Or didn't you understand my questions?