GOP Loyalty Pledges Have Been Abandoned.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Well if you want to pursue the conspiracy angle, knock yourself out, I don't entertain overt silliness though. Not everything is connected like that.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

A wish a politician would do a loyalty pledge to the American people.

What politicians do with each other should be kept behind closed doors.

And once the doors are closed, seal them with runes and molten lead. Then put chains of iron around the room. Then pour concrete over the chains. Then place the concrete block into space.

originally posted by: 200Plus
From the beginning the "pledge" was a way to corral Trump and that is the only one it was for. It was to be used against him should he decide to run as a third party candidate later after the GOP used their political machine against him (as they have).

Now they can wave it around and say he is a "deal breaker" on every channel and the typical American voters will eat it up.

But they can't wave it around and say that. And both Trump and the GOP are fully aware of it.

AGAIN, see my blog post link from the OP: Link

As soon as I noticed that Trump backdated his pledge, and that the GOP was well aware of that fact, I expected that pledge to go out the window at some point.

And here we are at that point. It's clearly part of some 'plan.'

originally posted by: DBCowboy
a reply to: MotherMayEye

A wish a politician would do a loyalty pledge to the American people.

What politicians do with each other should be kept behind closed doors.

And once the doors are closed, seal them with runes and molten lead. Then put chains of iron around the room. Then pour concrete over the chains. Then place the concrete block into space.

lol.

I bet it would be backdated & nullified like Trump's pledge.

The GOP backed out of their loyalty pledges? Say it aint so!

Couldn't see that one coming from a mile away huh?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Well if you want to pursue the conspiracy angle, knock yourself out, I don't entertain overt silliness though. Not everything is connected like that.

Sure it is.

In September, Trump backdated his pledge. The RNC knew and dated their copy with the date it was executed...it stands to reason that Trump never intended to keep that pledge....

..and *surprise* here we are now at a place where he has actually abandoned the pledge...and *surprise* it's the RNC that has 'driven' him to this point.

Seven months is strong enough evidence to conclude that we are looking at a long well-thought out plan for this election. AND that both Trump and the RNC are playing along.

So I don't think it's so silly.

$18 trillion dollars in spending on the line. Huge tax hike and more power to the federal government on the line.

^^Of course, there is a plan to get that.^^

originally posted by: MotherMayEye
Sure it is.

In September, Trump backdated his pledge. The RNC knew and dated their copy with the date it was executed...it stands to reason that Trump never intended to keep that pledge....

..and *surprise* here we are now at a place where he has actually abandoned the pledge...and it the RNC that has 'driven' him to this point.

That's just speculation. I mean I certainly didn't believe he'd honor the pledge if he truly didn't want to, but to say it was predestined not to happen based on your reasoning is bad logic.

Seven months is strong enough evidence to conclude that we are looking at a long well-thought out plan for this election.

So I don't think it's so silly.

Like I said, if you want to pursue the conspiracy theory angle, knock yourself out. I just find it silly.

$18 trillion dollars in spending on the line. Huge tax hike and more power to the federal government on the line.

^^Of course, there is a plan to get that.^^

You know what's more fun? Considering that none of this is planned and that no one knows what's going to happen next. MUCH more terrifying to think about.

originally posted by: Krazysh0t

That's just speculation. I mean I certainly didn't believe he'd honor the pledge if he truly didn't want to, but to say it was predestined not to happen based on your reasoning is bad logic.

Speculation was what I have been doing since September and noticed it was backdated and then looked up what that meant in terms of a legal document.

I speculated he had every intention of abandoning that pledge, so when he abandoned it, he wanted to cover his butt from any legal complaints from donors by backdating it and disclosing it publicly. (with no explanation for the backdating, of course).

Now he has abandoned the pledge and proven me right. I am past speculation. He knew the date he wrote down. The RNC knew the date they wrote down. It's not a stretch to say these grown people were well aware of what they were signing and its legal significance.

That was seven months ago. Seven months ago, Trump and the RNC knew that pledge would be abandoned. THAT is a plan.


I REPEAT: That was seven months ago. Seven months ago, Trump and the RNC knew that pledge would be abandoned. THAT is a plan.



Besides, I have many more reasons to think Trump is a total fraud and political operative.


ETA: As far as I am concerned, it's clear that Trump and the GOP are in collusion. And since it will likely be democrats to benefit, I have to believe that the DNC is in collusion with them.

It's them against us. And I have no doubt they all want to get their hands on as many U.S. tax dollars as they can. The proof of that is in the pudding.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Look. I'm no fan of Trump. In fact, I am one of his more vocal critics, but I just don't think this is a conspiracy. Trump may well have never had any intention of taking the pledge seriously, but that doesn't necessarily mean there was a plan from a beginning for all three remaining candidates to renege on the pledge in May.

ETA: As far as I am concerned, it's clear that Trump and the GOP are in collusion. And since it will likely be democrats to benefit, I have to believe that the DNC is in collusion with them.

It's them against us. And I have no doubt they all want to get their hands on as many U.S. tax dollars as they can. The proof of that is in the pudding.

Have fun with that. I'm not convinced. Like I said, considering that none of this was planned is far more terrifying (and likely).

a reply to: MotherMayEye

This probably means that the Republicans will be running two different candidates in the elections. Hillary's e-mail scandal could also result in her being taken out of the election process, right? I mean, she is under investigation by the FBI. What if they decide to prosecute her?

a reply to: Krazysh0t

Ok. Well I trust that these were adults entering into a legal agreement and BOTH parties were aware the pledge was backdated. As such, I believe the RNC would have insisted it was corrected -- on both copies. But they didn't.

I am not buying that you find it tenuous. Tenuous is assuming the GOP just didn't care or notice it was backdated and void, or that they were too stupid to understand the legal significance of it.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

Like I said, knock yourself out. I'm not seeing it. One inconsistency does not a conspiracy theory make. Plus I only go off of actual evidence, not speculation, which is all you have going for your theory.

originally posted by: darkbake
a reply to: MotherMayEye

This probably means that the Republicans will be running two different candidates in the elections. Hillary's e-mail scandal could also result in her being taken out of the election process, right? I mean, she is under investigation by the FBI. What if they decide to prosecute her?

I think Trump will break from the party and split the conservative vote. Like I said in my OP, it could give democrats a mandate if he fractures it pretty evenly.

And it is interesting to me how Bernie is the one that has really benefitted from HIllary's email scandal. The political gods are smiling on him.

I think the gods really like his big, huge plan to spend and grow the federal government. Why wouldn't they?

originally posted by: Krazysh0t
a reply to: MotherMayEye

Like I said, knock yourself out. I'm not seeing it. One inconsistency does not a conspiracy theory make. Plus I only go off of actual evidence, not speculation, which is all you have going for your theory.

As I said, I have a laundry list of reasons that I think Trump is a fraud. This is just the topic for today.

Thanks for the input.

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

ETA: As far as I am concerned, it's clear that Trump and the GOP are in collusion. And since it will likely be democrats to benefit, I have to believe that the DNC is in collusion with them.

It's them against us. And I have no doubt they all want to get their hands on as many U.S. tax dollars as they can. The proof of that is in the pudding.

Wait...........

For almost 8 years the GOP has taken a policy stance of obstruction towards the Dems. They've smeared Obama every single chance they've had. Never denouncing quacky conspiracy theories like Obama wasn't going to give up power after two terms or that he might nuke South Carolina. The GOP continues to push frivolous investigations into birth certificates and Benghazi over and over again. It's become a rinse a repeat process...... Like clockwork.

And now they're all in collusion with each other?

Man.... That's one elaborate machiavellian plan.

a reply to: MotherMayEye

I wouldn't give a loyalty pledge to those Republican idiots in the first place. What have they done to earn the loyalty of anyone?

originally posted by: GD21D

originally posted by: MotherMayEye

ETA: As far as I am concerned, it's clear that Trump and the GOP are in collusion. And since it will likely be democrats to benefit, I have to believe that the DNC is in collusion with them.

It's them against us. And I have no doubt they all want to get their hands on as many U.S. tax dollars as they can. The proof of that is in the pudding.

Wait...........

For almost 8 years the GOP has taken a policy stance of obstruction towards the Dems. They've smeared Obama every single chance they've had. Never denouncing quacky conspiracy theories like Obama wasn't going to give up power after two terms or that he might nuke South Carolina. The GOP continues to push frivolous investigations into birth certificates and Benghazi over and over again. It's become a rinse a repeat process...... Like clockwork.

And now they're all in collusion with each other?

Man.... That's one elaborate machiavellian plan.

It depends on what 'the plan' is.

As it stands, with the 'War on Terror,' a conservative is not necessary to profit from war. At any moment we can go wherever that 'war' takes us. Conveniently, that war could easily be diverted covertly to wherever -- no matter if a democrat or republican is in office.

So right now, 'they who conspire' would really profit most from a liberal, big-spender.

And what do we have playing out before us? A lot of effort to marginalize conservatives and drive their thinking into oblivion.

The ELITE-ELITE are Fabian socialists. And they work far in advance and through infiltration. The first step in infiltrating the U.S. government is to infiltrate both major parties.

If the ELITE-ELITE (your choice on how you want to define that) really do influence global government and make 'the plans,' then expect their plan to be long-running and successful via infiltration.

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Also, the ACA is a prime example of how Congress feigns gridlock to bring Americans the crappiest legislation that people STILL cannot afford and lines the pockets of big pharma and the insurance compaies, and they had the NERVE to bill it as a 'victory for Americans.'

All we are allowed to see is smoke and mirrors. The two parties aren't trying to defeat each other -- they are trying to defeat the voters.

a reply to: Metallicus

Nothing. The whole thing was weird in the first place.

But I do believe it served a purpose in scamming voters. Now when Trump splits from the party, no one will think he always intended to do that. And no one will think the GOP knew that from the outset.

But I think they did.

originally posted by: queenofswords
Politics is a high stakes game, and this year the stakes are really high. Our country is about to either continue the status quo of appeasement, corruption and graft (Hillary), or turn socialist and watch America slide into the pit (Bernie), or Become Great Again (Trump), or clean up Washington (Cruz). Loyalty pledges are just window dressing and if it isn't matching the decor, take them away.

Seems it will just be like every other election.

The dumarbse public vote for a slogan.


"Clean Washington up"

"Make America great again"


Haha

Hope and change , hope and change derp derp.

originally posted by: crazyewok
Seems it will just be like every other election.

It will be.

It's always the same: the 'Establishment' leads the parties, the parties lead the media, the media leads the voters....and then we are stuck with what the 'Establishment' wants.

rinse and repeat.

It's incredible how people think it's too far-fetched to believe these parties serve the same 'Establishment.'