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Why should any educated adult believe any of the stone age religions are anything but make believe?

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posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 01:19 PM
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originally posted by: masqua

I'm a believer in 'Life after Death', but have no idea on what that means.


I'm a believer in energy consciousness after physical death, due to the many personal experiences I've had.

No God required.




posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 01:45 PM
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originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: spy66

I was raised in the Christian faith. Even considered being a minister. But, I wasn't going to preach/teach something I didn't have full knowledge of. So, I began researching Jesus.

Still believing "myth Jesus" after intensive research definitely requires a Leap of Faith.

I did not become "true" atheist until age 65. Can't say I didn't give God a chance.




Understanding and Learning about Religion is one aspect of all this. Having faith in God or religion is another. Faith is not something you can learn, it is something you have. All children are borne With a mind of their own, not the mind of both their parents or the religion they fallow.


You can learn to understand religion by studying religion or by growing up With religion, but you can not learn how to have faith in it.



posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 01:49 PM
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originally posted by: spy66

You can learn to understand religion by studying religion or by growing up With religion, but you can not learn how to have faith in it.


Agreed.

Faith is a choice made by personal experience its many forms..



posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 01:56 PM
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originally posted by: spy66

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: spy66

I was raised in the Christian faith. Even considered being a minister. But, I wasn't going to preach/teach something I didn't have full knowledge of. So, I began researching Jesus.

Still believing "myth Jesus" after intensive research definitely requires a Leap of Faith.

I did not become "true" atheist until age 65. Can't say I didn't give God a chance.

You can learn to understand religion by studying religion or by growing up With religion, but you can not learn how to have faith in it.



I agree we are born individuals.

Why would I want to have faith in the illogical, based on basically lies.

I compare the Jesus story to Johnny Appleseed. I believe there was a man the myth is based on. I know there was a real John "Appleseed" Chapman.

I should "have faith" in the myth of Johnny Appleseed? Or accept the facts of his real life?



posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 02:01 PM
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Even though we may criticize God and religion we still are basically ignorant of what we are, were we came from, and most importantly, where were going



posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 02:05 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
Even though we may criticize God and religion we still are basically ignorant of what we are, were we came from, and most importantly, where were going


Absolutely.

The Terra Papers actually make the most sense to me.

I find the reaction to them interesting.

But, that's another topic of discussion.



posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 02:08 PM
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originally posted by: masqua

originally posted by: spy66

You can learn to understand religion by studying religion or by growing up With religion, but you can not learn how to have faith in it.


Agreed.

Faith is a choice made by personal experience its many forms..


Faith is not actually a Choice, when it is something you are borne With. But faith takes different forms of logic based on all the informasion you recieve and is stored in you mind. Non of us recieve the same information or the same amount of information in the same context.
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posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 02:12 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell
Even though we may criticize God and religion we still are basically ignorant of what we are, were we came from, and most importantly, where were going


This is an interesting observation.

I think the important answer likely falls within eastern thought: that ignorance does not matter, as we are only really here today.

Which, in itself, is interesting in that its a rather materialistic view. Shockingly so, actually.



posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 02:13 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Willtell
Even though we may criticize God and religion we still are basically ignorant of what we are, were we came from, and most importantly, where were going


Absolutely.

The Terra Papers actually make the most sense to me.

I find the reaction to them interesting.

But, that's another topic of discussion.


I don’t know what the Terra papers are.


I guess I’ll consult God, Google, and find out!



posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 02:17 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Willtell
Even though we may criticize God and religion we still are basically ignorant of what we are, were we came from, and most importantly, where were going


Absolutely.

The Terra Papers actually make the most sense to me.

I find the reaction to them interesting.

But, that's another topic of discussion.


I don’t know what the Terra papers are.


I guess I’ll consult God, Google, and find out!


Google.

Also watch Star Wars.

Princess Leia's hair? Hopi Lotus Blossom.



posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 02:21 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Willtell
Even though we may criticize God and religion we still are basically ignorant of what we are, were we came from, and most importantly, where were going


Absolutely.

The Terra Papers actually make the most sense to me.

I find the reaction to them interesting.

But, that's another topic of discussion.


I don’t know what the Terra papers are.


I guess I’ll consult God, Google, and find out!


Google.

Also watch Star Wars.

Princess Leia's hair? Hopi Lotus Blossom.



I never liked Star Wars...

As for THE Princess

We'll the Sufis say

The Quran is but an eyebrow of a Mistress



posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 02:25 PM
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a reply to: Annee

No one is telling you to believe in a lie. If Your Logic tells you that what you have learned about religion is a lie. You have come further than moste People have. So you made the right Choice by not becoming a priest or a minister.... because then you would have had to minister the lie to others.

Since you are smart and have the logical sense many others dont have why dont you see the real truth? Is that because you stoped searching for the truth?









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posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 02:27 PM
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originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: bigfatfurrytexan
a reply to: spy66

well, in the commonly accepted rules of logic, you cannot prove a negative.

So the nonexistence seems to have that going for it.


Yeah well, in many things, but I think that's kind of a cop out in the chosen belief/non and lack of.

There is no "I know".


But many DO know. And this is not just faith.


No, you don't KNOW.



Yes I do know. It is just you that doesn't. You don't know what I know, and I don't want to know what you know.
I know God exists as an absolute personal fact.
[SNIP]
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posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 02:33 PM
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originally posted by: masqua

I'm a believer in 'Life after Death', but have no idea on what that means.



originally posted by: Annee

I'm a believer in energy consciousness after physical death, due to the many personal experiences I've had.

No God required.


I agree with both of you 100%.



posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 02:34 PM
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posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 02:39 PM
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Believing in religion and God are different.

Many people realize that something intelligent had to create such a complex, unified reality.

Religion is a different matter. In fact, Buddhism as a theology doesn’t believe in a God.

And I have pointed out numerous times the first pillar of Islam in the Quran doesn’t say belief in God,

But belief in the UNSEEN

..And Christianity is so confused: Son of God, or God, three Gods, 4 gods?

To me personally God is irrelevant.


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posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 02:50 PM
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originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: Annee

No one is telling you to believe in a lie.



The Christ story is a lie.

Its not about someone telling me to believe a lie. Its about knowing one is.



posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 02:53 PM
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originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Willtell

originally posted by: Annee

originally posted by: Willtell
Even though we may criticize God and religion we still are basically ignorant of what we are, were we came from, and most importantly, where were going


Absolutely.

The Terra Papers actually make the most sense to me.

I find the reaction to them interesting.

But, that's another topic of discussion.


I don’t know what the Terra papers are.


I guess I’ll consult God, Google, and find out!


Google.

Also watch Star Wars.

Princess Leia's hair? Hopi Lotus Blossom.



I never liked Star Wars...

As for THE Princess

We'll the Sufis say

The Quran is but an eyebrow of a Mistress



I'm just saying her hair style made for a lot of Talk.

Its obvious to me, George Lucas read the Terra Papers - - - which many people have no clue about.

Lotus Blossom hair style: www.google.com...# imgrc=LmKAkwH4d33ZdM%3A



posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 02:56 PM
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Hey


Theirs no God but Blucifer and Hillary Clinton is its prophet

www.slate.com...

That’s the new religion of the age
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posted on Apr, 9 2016 @ 03:25 PM
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a reply to: Annee





The Christ story is a lie.


It is a written story non the less. The books exist. And it serves a real purpose if we like it or not.
For the once who know the text know that Jesus is not the main person we should fix Our mind on. Because the bible is not really about Jesus, It is about something else much more important,,,and that is us.

But we are groomed and though to focus on Jesus, Our religion is built around Jesus not us. This is common for all religions and always have been, do to the fact we have always had human authority that have authority over what we should focus on.




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