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Dear Crappy Europe: I’m Glad You Hate America…

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posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 05:49 PM
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a reply to: nonspecific

It was a simple statement of fact.

It was a little war, it did determine that I am not British.

Get over yourself, please.




posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 05:50 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: MrConspiracy
I'd never fight for this country.

I'd fight 'them' at the beaches seeing as I live on a cliff above one. Pity your comment doesn't seem to reflect any sense of feelings to protect your community.
Are you saying you wouldn't defend these islands (or your island) from foreign attack, or just you don't want to needlessly kill brown people?
If it is the latter then we find agreement.


What's "brown people" got to do with it? The country and the greater world is in ruins. Unless we revolt, we fight for those in charge. We don't fight for our "freedom"....



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 05:50 PM
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a reply to: nonspecific

In a post that is in reply to me, when I did nothing to deserve it.

Good day to YOU, sir.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 05:52 PM
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originally posted by: Irishhaf

originally posted by: MrConspiracy
Sins of the fathers...

We on this forum are NOT our countries.

I might be on my own but my judgement isn't based on my country. The whole world is corrupt... whichever way you want to look at it.

America? Corrupt.
Europe? Corrupt.

I could go on.

I have to say I've always been massively envious of America's patriotism. You truly love your country and I appreciate that. I don't know why you love it SO much though. And that's not a jab at America, it's a jab at the world. I'm from the UK and I hate what my country has become.. I'd never fight for this country. Never. My relatives have and what did it get them? What did it get us?

I love my countries deep and ancient past. I love my countries landscape. I love my countries people. But what this all boils down to is the countries' (world) leaders. And nobody loves them. Nobody in their right mind can. And i'll be damned if I'm going to defend THEM. In any way shape or form.

So for any Americans who say they will fight for the country they love. For their freedom... all you're doing is fighting for your leaders. And what they have caused.


My country has done things I am ashamed of...no doubt, no nations hands are clean..

But I do love the constitution.. its astounding to me that a group of men from that time period could see so clearly what we could be and had the fore sight to put it down in writing.. that is what I love the most, we in america truly have the ability to change the world in any way we want.

Our sheer size, our abundant natural resources... when focused we have an amazingly driven populace... but we can and should do better. I haven't given up hope that we can turn ourselves around and be a force for actual good in the world, if we just finish waking up and take our govt back; to borrow a quote from Lincoln, "government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth."

The govt belongs to us, we let the rich take it from us... until we get educated and active we cant take it back... but I believe we can, and I believe we will.

I have faith in the spirit of the American people that when push comes to shove we will stand on whats right... (yea I know sometimes we are slow... get off it we all have our own little issues :p)


You have hope and that's refreshing. Long live the American dream!

Let me ask you... if you were to defend your country. What would you be defending? The people who probably started it all?



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 06:00 PM
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Ridiculous pathetic thread...
I can hear the s'n-word'ing from your parents basement.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 06:05 PM
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Says it all really....

youtu.be...
edit on 30-3-2016 by FrankReynolds because: Link


In all Fairness though this is a really stupid thread, a great bit of trolling by the OP though. They've managed to get everyone arguing while they're sat back, not replying laughing their arse off.

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posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 06:21 PM
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a reply to: Jonjonj



Welp, 12 pages later, much bickering, wailing and gnashing of teeth.

And OP still hasn't made another comment.

I have an image of clockwork toys, springs, a key and devilish laughter in my head.


It's the OP's standard modus operandi.

He likes to make threads with his opening post and then ditch. Then he sits back and laughs his ass off at the free Jerry Springer show he's created.

He does this with just about every single thread he creates on ATS.

Create thread, ditch thread, laugh at thread.



But what I find even more interesting is how many ATS members still haven't caught on to the OP's neverending schoolyard antics.

Ah well... C'est la vie.




posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 07:19 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

I have visited Europe and the impression I have is that people there have a better quality of life than we do. We have to work really hard in the US just to keep a roof over our heads and we are so caught up in survival we don't have time to even enjoy life anymore (unless you are rich of course). I think we put much too much emphasis on materialism and keeping up with the Joneses instead of having time just to live. I think we could definitely do with a better quality of life here. And the world sees we work like dogs and have a tough life and yet we do have this arrogance that we are better than everyone else when in fact a lot of developed countries in fact have a much better standard of living than we do. Dont get me wrong, I love this country and we have countless good things going for us and a lot to be thankful for. But IMHO we work a lot harder and longer hours than we should have to just to survive. Just ask anyone in Europe how much vacation time they get every year and you will start to get the picture.
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posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 07:22 PM
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a reply to: openminded2011

I got the same impression. People on average seemed to be less stressed the hell out.

I remember my father talking to an old guy that was in really good shape. He asked what his secret was...

"Good food, good wine, no stress. During WWII the planes would bomb our town. The sirens would go off, but my mother would just ignore them and come inside only when she'd finished weeding the garden. She said the bombs would come anyway, and she has things to do. She didn't worry..."

Wise words.

Edit: We were in Italy BTW...good food and wine are all over, so that's 2 out of 3 down

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posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 08:17 PM
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a reply to: openminded2011

Don't get a wrong impression due to some romentic cliche, the working poor is on the rise here in Europe as well. We're just 10 years behind, roughly. As usual.


This comparative analytical report is an attempt to gain an insight into the situation of the working poor in Europe. Based
on 28 national contributions – provided by the correspondents from the EWCO network, which covers the EU27 and
Norway – the study examines the characteristics of the working poor, as well as the main policies and social partners’
views in relation to addressing this issue. The report reveals that the population affected has still to be clearly identified,
as data are not particularly specific. Furthermore, there is still some room for manoeuvre regarding improving the
situation of the working poor; currently, there is a lack of knowledge and research on the effectiveness of some measures,
such as the minimum wage, in combating this specific issue. Moreover, understanding how governments react and what
priority they give to the issue is of utmost importance to addressing it. Finally, although conducted at the beginning of
the current economic crisis, the study already reveals some signs of negative effects on the working poor situation. It is,
therefore, paramount to follow up on the development of this issue in the near future, and to assess the changes in labour
markets and family structures.

edz.bib.uni-mannheim.de...

Norway is way ahead if you ask me, due to lots of oil to be fair. Or just think of Icelands Icesave stunt! The democracy is still intact over there, but my favorit common European edge would be travel.


Americans are gloomy about their economy’s ability to produce. Are they right to be? We look at two areas of concern, transport infrastructure and innovation

Life in the slow lane

Better die fast on the left lane!

Sincerely yours
the Autobahn




posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 09:57 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Just ....Damn.


Star and flag for your Moxi. As an American, living in a European country for 16 years, They do make fun of us a lot, and they have even grown comfortable enough to do it right in front of me. They hate us because we are non-conformists. Basically, because they gave up so much of their freedom, they may be jealous of what we still have. That's the feeling I get at work.
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posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 10:13 PM
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Like Europe? Great. Go live in Europe. I'd prefer that people who love the USA live in the USA.

Caveat: not the utopian progressive dream of the USA. Not what the USA can be turned into.

Many of my ancestors came here to get away from Europe and all its traditions. A few of my other ancestors were indigenous who valued freedom and lived without centralized planning. Put it all together and you have a guy who doesn't really care about other nations and their opinions of my country.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: introvert

Now I can take being called a socialist drone. As a socialist, I've had to develop tough skin. But I do not like having my manhood put in to question, which is what I think this article does, simply because I am willing to contribute what I can to benefit the collective good. We are better-off as a nation if more people can see a doctor or can get an education.

Socialism is not you contributing. Socialism is the government taking what is yours and giving it to others as THEY see fit.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 10:35 PM
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originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician
a reply to: Metallicus

Just ....Damn.


Star and flag for your Moxi. As an American, living in a European country for 16 years, They do make fun of us a lot, and they have even grown comfortable enough to do it right in front of me. They hate us because we are non-conformists. Basically, because they gave up so much of their freedom, they may be jealous of what we still have. That's the feeling I get at work.


Why is it some of you Americans think that the rest of the world either A) hates you for your freedoms or B) is jealous of your freedoms?
i bet that you have all those basic freedoms in whatever European country you are residing in minus the Second Amendment



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 10:37 PM
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originally posted by: Teikiatsu
Like Europe? Great. Go live in Europe. I'd prefer that people who love the USA live in the USA.

Caveat: not the utopian progressive dream of the USA. Not what the USA can be turned into.

Many of my ancestors came here to get away from Europe and all its traditions. A few of my other ancestors were indigenous who valued freedom and lived without centralized planning. Put it all together and you have a guy who doesn't really care about other nations and their opinions of my country.


With the specific skill set that I have, you have to go where the money is my man. On that note, although I was born and raised in the states, my allegiance is to my God, my family and myself. I call myself an American, because that's where my legal documentation is.

I never did subscribe to the International "chest pounding" pride game, that incidentally,...football, basketball and all sports, are designed to keep the masses trained in the mentality of, "my team is better than your team", which then transitions into daily life to, "my country is better than your country" etc. It's a divided system like everything else, and propagates war...which is good for Halliburton and the like. This seems like a big waste of time and frustration to me. When I stand on my own, and go where I want to...no country rules me. It's about as close as you'll get to true freedom. I utilize from both countries, and on my own terms.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 10:40 PM
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We ought to not bicker and become divided, instead we can unite against the "religion of peace" my fellow humans.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 11:13 PM
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originally posted by: GoShredAK
We ought to not bicker and become divided, instead we can unite against the "religion of peace" my fellow humans.




Yep. They're going to be everywhere, we might as well be too.



posted on Mar, 31 2016 @ 12:10 AM
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a reply to: PublicOpinion



the working poor is on the rise here in Europe as well


Well now whose responsible for that to?

Oh yeah i forget its because you were asking Europeans help to bomb Libya and you want us in afghanistan how about this?

Stop policing the world.



posted on Mar, 31 2016 @ 01:16 AM
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Americans love America the way a beaten wife still loves her abusing husband. Convinced underneath it all hes still a good guy they try to blindly carry on with a bruised smile while the rest of us just shake our heads.



posted on Mar, 31 2016 @ 01:28 AM
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originally posted by: IlluminatiTechnician
a reply to: Metallicus

Just ....Damn.


Star and flag for your Moxi. As an American, living in a European country for 16 years, They do make fun of us a lot, and they have even grown comfortable enough to do it right in front of me. They hate us because we are non-conformists. Basically, because they gave up so much of their freedom, they may be jealous of what we still have. That's the feeling I get at work.




Yeah right good one....i think you will find most non American westerners just shake their heads at the crazy that is America, i do not think there is any hate or malice if anything there is a lot to like.....It is just a fair chunk of us think you Americans are all nuts and not all in a bad way....you guys take things to the extreme and sometimes it is hard to not sit back and shake my head in bewilderment....

To address your point of jealousy i would call that delusional on your behalf, not everyone wants to live like Americans regardless of what you think you know...



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