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Dear Crappy Europe: I’m Glad You Hate America…

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posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 03:03 PM
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a reply to: Irishhaf

I have employed civil disobedience, direct action, and protest many times in life, on top of directly fronting my elected representatives face to face or via digital/social media communication.
I accept no responsibility for any #ty thing that any UK government has done.
I accept responsibility for my own actions or inaction, nobody else's.




posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 03:03 PM
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Welp, 12 pages later, much bickering, wailing and gnashing of teeth.

And OP still hasn't made another comment.

I have an image of clockwork toys, springs, a key and devilish laughter in my head.




posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 03:09 PM
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What a waste of a good internet indeed.

You all realise that the owners have to pay for this to be preserved indefinatley?

Kind of justifies all those adverts everyone complains about.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 03:41 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus

Well I am a Scot first a Brit second and a European last, I like visiting the States but two things.

1) We don't defend ourselves with sticks.

2) Your gun's DON'T protect YOU how many mass shootings do you want me to list ?

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posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 03:46 PM
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originally posted by: introvert
A real man does what is right and gives a helping hand to those in need. A real man does not sit idly by and marvel at how "manly" his pockets have become while his neighbors can't afford cancer treatment or a nutritious meal.

So, in my opinion, this "man" does not sound like a man at all. He sounds like an ignorant prick.


Speaking of ignorant, you assume that just because he says that he likes to pay his own way for things and take care of himself, that this is all he considers to being a "real man?"

What utter nonsense, as you have no idea what those of us do at a personal level to help our neighbors and those in need in our communities. Just because we might abhor the ideology that says government will do it better if we just allow it to take our money and do it for us doesn't mean that we have no compassion or that we do not help out any and every other human being that we can.

Ignorant prick, indeed. Sounds to me like you are only seeing the little bit spoken and then editorializing the rest in your own mind in order to be able to call someone else an "ignorant prick." Does that make you feel better about yourself, doing that? Does that add to you being a "real man?"

No, it makes you exactly that which you accused someone else of being.

An individual, a community, a society, a state, a country, and a continent cannot be stereotyped so broadly, and to do so, while missing the overall point of the OP, is a terrible tactic. I think it is a terrible tactic to call all of Europe "crappy" in the title, but the point that it shouldn't matter what Europeans or their figureheads and governments think about us is a valid one to make.

You can take offense to him not including the ideology of socialism in his short and incomplete list of what makes a man, but to pretend that you know the OP well enough to call him out as a selfish, ignorant prick--well, that's poppycock. POPPYCOCK I SAY!



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 03:46 PM
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a reply to: wmd_2008

I am going to take a page from the OP link..

Can you give me a legal definition of Mass shooting?

I dont think there is an official "legal" definition of mass shooting, just a buzz word that changes as the media sees fit to push an agenda.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 04:06 PM
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a reply to: SlapMonkey



Speaking of ignorant, you assume that just because he says that he likes to pay his own way for things and take care of himself, that this is all he considers to being a "real man?"


I did not make any such assumption. I replied specifically to one particular assertion.

Let's take a look at what he said:


I can buy my own healthcare. I can pay for my own education. I don’t need free access to anything. I’m a man. I pay my own way. You know what? Millions of Americans do the same. It’s called individualism, you socialist drones.


In this very statement he implies that anyone that may believe in socialist principles are less of a "man".



You can take offense to him not including the ideology of socialism in his short and incomplete list of what makes a man,


He did include socialism...in the part in which he implies he is a "man" because he doesn't want or need socialism.



but to pretend that you know the OP well enough to call him out as a selfish, ignorant prick--well, that's poppycock. POPPYCOCK I SAY!


I didn't call the OP an ignorant prick. I was referring to the person that wrote the piece. The OP didn't write the linked content. Why would I call the OP a prick when he did not write it?



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 04:19 PM
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Content aside, the title of this thread alone is so immature it's hilarious.

Dear crappy europe...i didn't ask to be born! I'll do what I want, I'm a grown up!

Shut up, ATS...you're not my real mom!

Seems it's acceptable on ATS to bash europe...or the british in particular. I don't hate america...I live in the UK, I don't think we're all that different to be frank.

This thread is childish - and it matters not how much of a man you are, no man is immune to life or reality...you can be the most macho, manliest man to walk the earth and misfortune can befall you...before you know it you're dying, too ill to work.

It's the live for the moment mentality, pretty childish. I'm alright right now therefore I always will be...thus I shall burn any potential bridges now, safe in the knowledge that I have foreseen the future, and I'll always be fit and capable.

No man thinks like this, a man - a real man, is humble. A real man, a smart man - should know that at any given time something outwith their control may happen. Why has ATS become a hotbed of petty namecalling, racism and baiting?



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 04:50 PM
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originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: Metallicus

Well I am a Scot first a Brit second and a European last, I like visiting the States but two things.

1) We don't defend ourselves with sticks.

2) Your gun's DON'T protect YOU how many mass shootings do you want me to list ?


Oh, I don't know. Start with a list of the mass shootings that happened in "gun free" zones.

Go ahead, take as many pages as you need.

Maybe by the end of the list, you'll understand. Probably not though.

Oh! Also, list the times a gun HAS stopped a mass shooting too. There are many examples, but I'd imagine you are uninterested in a silly little thing called proof.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 05:08 PM
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originally posted by: poncho1982

originally posted by: wmd_2008
a reply to: Metallicus

Well I am a Scot first a Brit second and a European last, I like visiting the States but two things.

1) We don't defend ourselves with sticks.

2) Your gun's DON'T protect YOU how many mass shootings do you want me to list ?


Oh, I don't know. Start with a list of the mass shootings that happened in "gun free" zones.

Go ahead, take as many pages as you need.

Maybe by the end of the list, you'll understand. Probably not though.

Oh! Also, list the times a gun HAS stopped a mass shooting too. There are many examples, but I'd imagine you are uninterested in a silly little thing called proof.


Aside from rural areas and the odd loon the UK is a "gun free zone".

As it stands there is no need for the average man to carry a gun as no one carries guns.


This is something that we will never be able to agree on as it always goes down the same route.

Simple answer is to look at gun related crime in the UK and compare it to the US and then divide by population. It really is that simple.

But then your average American will cry about rights and freedoms and then you just have to look at the silly laws.

Here in the UK we can cross the road at any point we deem safe. We can have as many chickens in our garden as we see fit.

Land of the free indeed.

Indeed I say.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: introvert

That is one of the best explanations of socialism. I would have never been able to put it any better.

I feel exactly the same way.



I tried to send you a private message but my phone was having none of it.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 05:19 PM
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a reply to: nonspecific

Never claimed were were perfect. I don't care that we're not, as no one is, nor is any country.

Don't care that you can't own a gun. I'm not British. A little war decided that.

And you ignored my point, but then that always happens in this debate.

Guns are here, they're NOT going anywhere. It would take 3/4 of the states to call a Constitutional Convention, and another 3/4 vote to pass an amendment to the Constitution to take that right away.

Thank God our founding fathers were smart enough to know that they would attempt to be taken away.

No legislative body (Congress for example) can make a law to rescind it.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 05:22 PM
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You know what, I really have to be honest here...this thread has annoyed me.

Yes, annoyed...I'm internet annoyed, because part of me wants to retaliate and be petty, start rhyming off this fact and that fact.

You know why we humans suck so bad? Because we blame everyone else, or think that if someone else did something equally bad or worse that it somehow justfies the nasty.

This is why, after so many thousand years of apparent "civilisation" we're as moronic as we've ever been, in fact I think we're reverting to a less evolved state. I reckon that sometimes ago, in the long-forgotten past...we were more civil and less idiotic than we are now.

We've gone full circle.

Personally, I refuse to accept responsi9bility for any of the negative comments made against my country...I am me, not the patch of land that I inhabit. I'm a person, with friends, family, we have good things, we have bad things - we have fun and we deal with problems.

At no point in my life have I assumed that americans, or people of any nations, are different to me and mine. We all face trials and tribulations...it's called life. This whole thread reminds me of being at school, where your clothes dictated how you were treated by your peers...I have a ralph lauren shirt and you're wearing that crap?

Seriously...I don't even care is the OF is meant as a joke, tongue in cheek. It's so counter-productive and indicative of what's wrong with people in general...not just americans - people.

We can do this all day because our # stinks on both sides...and unless we acknowledge that, stalemate!

Let's stop trying to progress.

Yeah, the british did some awful things, so did the germans, the french, the americans...and what?

Nothing can undo that. ATS is supposed to be a forum where, supposedly, enlightened and inquisitive minds collaborate, doscuss and sometimes even solve problems.

This thread should be CLOSED as it's done nothing productive, it has incited hatred.

In the UK we had Jimmy Savile.
In the US they had Ted Bundy.

In the UK we had Thomas Hamilton.
In the US they had Jared Laughner.

In the UK we had the plague...
In the US they created and released lime disease.

In the UK we had Raoul Moat.
In the US they had Chris Dorner.

This could go on, indefinitely. I don't accept blame for anything listed for the UK and expect nobody here to accept blame for anything that happened in theUs or elsewhere.

Shame on the OP for initialising this thread, you're so pathetic you can't even respond. And I don't second the motion that this is a troll thread at all, I don't think you're sitting there with your wooden spoon, stirring.

I think you bricked out on the first page when you were called out and told you were most likely suffering depression, I think you're lame and a coward.

And you are the only person here who I really dislike...and yes, that's based on this OP and another I heard earlier. Trolling isn't a valid get-out clause, you're an idiot plain and simple.

Best remain in the shadows because I feel you are incapable of finishing what you started here...coward.

And for the record...just because I'm calli9ng him lame and a coward don't mean I extend those attributes to other americans, he don't speak for you all.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 05:22 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus


We have plenty of good reasons to believe we’re better than Europe. Mainly because we are.


That's precisely the form of argument I'd suspect in a Kindergarten. Bring the debate on a personal level if you don't wanna deal with it. Yeah, right. Troll on!

C'mon Metallicus, that's not a source. It's a fricken joke! Poor Muricans ain't got no sharp mockingbirds, eh?




posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 05:24 PM
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a reply to: HeathenJessie



You rock.

We need more people like you.

Seriously.

You get the big picture.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 05:28 PM
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originally posted by: poncho1982
a reply to: nonspecific

Never claimed were were perfect. I don't care that we're not, as no one is, nor is any country.

Don't care that you can't own a gun. I'm not British. A little war decided that.

And you ignored my point, but then that always happens in this debate.

Guns are here, they're NOT going anywhere. It would take 3/4 of the states to call a Constitutional Convention, and another 3/4 vote to pass an amendment to the Constitution to take that right away.

Thank God our founding fathers were smart enough to know that they would attempt to be taken away.

No legislative body (Congress for example) can make a law to rescind it.


Good luck in that god your thanking.

Glad your happy at the state of affairs that your laws have created.

We have a Queen and an idiot in charge but I thank the gods that I do not exist that I live here and not in that screwed up corporate fuelled gun shooting crack taking abomination that is apparently the greatest god damn country in the world.

Good luck with everything though as most of the people that live in it seem kind of nice.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 05:33 PM
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a reply to: nonspecific

Honestly, I don't even know what you're trying to get at here.

Pretty much, you're into America bashing, we get that.

Not once did I bash your country.

Not. Once.

But go on with your diatribe.
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posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 05:46 PM
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originally posted by: poncho1982
a reply to: nonspecific

Honestly, I don't even know what you're trying to get at here.

Pretty much, you're into America bashing, we get that.

Not once did I bash your country.

Not. Once.

But go on with your diatribe.


"Don't care that you can't own a gun. I'm not British. A little war decided that. "


You embarrassing arrogance gives me all of the reason I need to stop this right now.

As I said, good luck in all that you do and may that god that your nation seems so intent on putting faith in look after you.



posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 05:47 PM
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a reply to: Metallicus


Dear Crappy Europe: I’m Glad You Hate America ...


Dear American (stupid) people:

**** **U

Sincerely

Europe.
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posted on Mar, 30 2016 @ 05:48 PM
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originally posted by: poncho1982
a reply to: nonspecific

Honestly, I don't even know what you're trying to get at here.

Pretty much, you're into America bashing, we get that.

Not once did I bash your country.

Not. Once.

But go on with your diatribe.


In a thread entilted "Dear Crappy Europe: I’m Glad You Hate America"

I feel I may be allowed a little rebuttal?

And now good day sir...



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