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The real reason people hate Trump-

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posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 04:53 PM
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We all have seen it. The typical polarizing effect a sham two party system produces in people. This election we are seeing people lose their minds like never before and fall in line with these divisive tendencies more than ever....well the typical ones.

There is a new political force emerging....the average guy that doesnt care about over intellectualized garbage seeking substance from emotion and obtuse reasoning in order to sway peoples minds.

It is more insulting to this new political force than any insult. To think that they would fall for the typical party hatred that governed our divide in the past. Beyond Trump, no one will ever run an election the same. That alone makes him noteworthy, as if there was a lack of reasons to take notice.



It’s not the hair.

Or the bad manners.

Or the “beautiful” wall he says he’ll build.

There’s a different, more subtle reason why the Republican establishment, donor class, political operatives, and the news media in general hate Donald Trump.


There is a hatred for him from both parties. They see the gravy train ending and their curtains falling to the floor to be trampled by the new force that will not be negotiated with...a force that can not be bought or swayed in its simple truth. We want REAL change. Real freedom. The opposition would fill us with the pessimism that governed past cycles by making it seem impossible to even challenge the establishment, so they joined them and now feel the charge of a heavy conscience and its killing them.


The reason can be found in a New York Times best selling business book, Stacking The Deck, by Wharton professor David Pottruck.

Pottruck, the Charles Schwab CEO who took the genial brokerage house online and into the big time, says that organizations hate change. Hate it with a PASSION!

That’s because when there’s a new way of doing things, a new way of solving problems, a new way of relating to everything, they feel threatened as a deep personal-loss.

Change renders meaningless the value of their hard-won experience and know-how. In politics, it may means family member lose their cushy jobs and perks.

That is the truth. The establishment in all its permutations is seeking a light at the end of the tunnel, but due to their internal hatred of the other side, their ego, and their fear, they can not begin to form a viable strategy. They are trying to defend the old way of doing things, a method we have become disgusted by and tired of hearing parroted by the usual sellouts.



Student loans of government employees get automatically paid off by government – TAX FREE.

Those in government have done things one way forever. Change is NOT FAIR to them

Everything they have done to line their pockets is threatened. The rules of the game may no longer apply.

So they dig in their heels and will do whatever it takes to resist change.

They resist perpetually until forced otherwise.

They subvert any process that would lead to change.Until they lose, it becomes open warfare against the people to sustain the establishment and its perks.

And so it is with Donald Trump. Like him or not, he has completely rewritten the rules of Presidential politics.


It also becomes open warfare on FELLOW AMERICANS. This is by far the worst aspect of this blind opposition trying to keep their confort at the expense of the well being of their fellows. They see the endless measures meant to break our back coming to an end, and its making them shake in their dress shoes.


He bypasses the media, taking his message, raw and unfiltered, to the millions of people who follow him on Twitter.

The party establishment went from underestimating him and laughing at him to fearing him breaking out in night sweats.

They fear all power and their relevance will vanish into thing air.

Donors gave Jeb Bush $120 million and he came in dead last.

The money, like Jeb, is gone and it could not save their fiefdom.

Now wealthy donors have a choice. Oppose Trump and he wins and they are out in the cold. Understand there is a change in the wind and shift sides to the people.

How ironic. It took a billionaire to neuter the billionaire donor class.


And here is the meat of it. People who hate Trump hate him because he is honest. They would prefer lip service that masks the true nature of the power elite. They see his words ringing true for years to come, and even if nothing else comes of this, they will not rule over us with the same ease as before. The smoke machine is broken and the mirrors are shattered. Hate him or love him. HE DID THAT.


Most of the media hates Trump to the core and dislike the fact they are no longer able to play kingmaker losing their power fearing they will be irrelevant with the internet displacing them.

The political class have lost the power to rule behind the curtain from paid operatives and cronies who cannot transition to the new world where the old rules of campaigning don’t apply.

Trump has spent more on hats than he has on polls so the pollsters also have lost their importance.

Diplomats worldwide are running scared because Trump will renegotiate everything from a business standpoint that cannot be bought like Hillary & her foundation.


There too is the issue to a degree. The typical method of being treated like an expensive whore in exchange for power over our lives is now irrelevant. You dont need them anymore and that is a wound that will never heal. The truth is THIS NEEDED TO HAPPEN.

We all know the paid operatives and MSM have gone unchecked and made our collective lives misery by always giving us the choice of lesser evils, who always are interchangeable beyond what party they run with. Here with Trump we have an anti establishment candidate that doesnt cater to them, so they lose their minds. They are now like the rest of us mortals and its scary for them.....as it should be. They SHOULD fear us. WE ARE THE COUNTRY.

We should hold the keys to government, not the wealthy and international elite. WE SHOULD, AND WILL ONCE AGAIN.


The handwringing, the dire predictions of doom, and the wailing and gnashing of teeth have little to do with Donald’s positions, but their loss of power.

They complain Trump is bringing in new voters who are not Republican. And this is bad?

The Trump threat isn’t to the Constitution, to America’s standing in the world, or even to Republican Congressional candidates, it is to the establishment.


AMEN!


If you think Trump’s supporters are angry about the way the government and the business world colluded, you are right. The establishment fails to appreciate the anger.

They’re just furious. Even if Trump fails to win, there will be more in the wings. He is inspiring a change and he doesn’t even understand how profound.


That is the message of hope I leave you with. There may not be a Trump presidency if the usual cheaters are allowed to pull their tricks. That doesnt matter. You will never end what he has inspired. TRUE DEMOCRACY!

A candidate not governed by the typical mask of BS we see in our leaders. We are millions of Trumps, and by force of relentless searching to satiate our need for true freedom, we WILL prevail. This ends now.


www.zerohedge.com...


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posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 04:56 PM
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a reply to: tadaman

Trump is the worst candidate to become president. All i Have to say.


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posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 04:57 PM
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a reply to: RachelFreeman

You say that without reasons. Your emotion is not valid to make him lose or sway others FURIOUS at the establishment. He is our pitchfork and everyone who is on the gravy train that is establishment rule is losing their minds in fear.

That is why he is winning. This is my point exactly. You dont even know.


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posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 05:09 PM
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There's some of Trump that I like and some I don't like. His approach is mostly refreshing, though I'd like to hear more about policy positions. I like his generally anti-globalist and anti-globalist war profiteering stance. I like his tough self defense positions. I don't like how he characterizes Mexican immigrants, though something pragmatic does need to be done with our border security. I don't like his authoritarian approach to torture and spying, and how that erodes constitutional principles. I like that he's awake enough to see Islam as it is, an oppressive ideology that is currently at war with Western principles and nations. No, I don't believe all Muslims are bad, quite the contrary, but I totally disagree with the ideology and the dark side of Islam is spreading fast. Trumps position on this should be better clarified. The "wall" is dumb. But so are SJW's. SJW's are basically the left's version of the clan. Both should have free speech. Both are still abhorrent.

What may keep me from voting for him in the general election, should he proceed, is his stance on three things, the generalization of Mexican immigrants as bad people, domestic spying, and torture. That said, certainly the left is no better on these issues.


CX

posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 05:15 PM
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Just the bad manners is enough for me to dislike the guy.

They cost nothing, yet can can cost you and your country a lot if you aren't able to interact politely with other countries and thier people.

CX.


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posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 05:17 PM
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If I were someone that lived outside of society in a cave somewhere... and I strolled in to town one day... and the First person I met told me that Trump is hated by the media and both political parties, I'd have to reply that he is the guy we should probably vote for.

The "establishment" has done a great deal to screw all of us. If he scares the "establishment" this damned bad... do the math.



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 05:17 PM
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a reply to: pirhanna

As a husband to Mexican national I dont like it too much either. BUT he has a point. There needs to be something done to fix our immigration problem. IMO, and I may be wrong, but if they are funneled into LEGAL immigration, the stigma will fade away like Irish immigrants overcame theirs, to name one group in history that has faced similar frustrations with the US population due to out of control immigration with little to no integration.

As far as the spying, he is trying to focus on NON citizens and actual terrorism. He even says that a court order should allow access to metadata collection. That oversight is key to protecting our liberties while challenging threats effectively.

I respect your choice either way. You seem honest, so good luck man. May WE ALL WIN by a good candidate being elected.

Have a good one.
Hold it down.



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 05:23 PM
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a reply to: tadaman

Trump supporters parade and praise Donald Trump as if he is the first person in American politics to run as president that "isn't a part of the establishment," which even then I think is a load of bull#.

I have to ask - where were all of these conservatives when Ron Paul announced his candidancy? You want to talk about anti-establishment - there you go.

Donald Trump is not anti-establishment. Its becoming a daily routine in which a thread is created regarding Trump and how he and his supporters are going to save America.

Another question - was it not just mere months ago when it was being WIDELY discussed that the federal government is (or has been) in the works of gun confiscation - and now suddenly the same entity who is evidently going to confiscated said guns is something I should be supporting? Because "this time it'll be different!," and "Trump abides by the Consitution!"

Yeah - because he would never lie and tell people what they want to hear to gain support.

Donald Trump is your pitchfork?

What a joke. You're so pissed and FURIOUS at the establishment, so you're going to vote for a man who was willfully admitted to playing the game of politics I.e. "Buying/planting politicians," as Trump said so himself?

Ah - but I digress - for when Donald Trump is in favor of invading sovereign nations that have no business to American-relations (Libya) - all is good.

And people have the audacity to reciprocate rhetoric such as "Trump's stopping this gravy train - business as usual no longer will fly in D.C."

Out of all the rampant rah-rah-rah cheerleading of Trump supporters - I hardly have yet to see how Trump is going to magically make America great again. Just as its said with Bernie, "he won't be able to get anything through Congress," but I again digress for some reason unbeknownst to myself - Trump would not be facing these same hurdles because "he has balls and isn't afraid to speak his mind!"



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 05:25 PM
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originally posted by: pirhanna

Trump's generalization of Mexican immigrants as bad people......


Could you quote where he said this?
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posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 05:29 PM
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It's always amazing to me that Trump defenders also like to be inside the minds of the Trump opposition. You're wrong. It isn't because he tells the truth. If you haven't noticed already, the dude has a terrible track record with 'the truth'. And certainly has a terrible track record with being part of the corruptive process that is a top-down problem in this country. There isn't anyone much more establishment than Trump. Already pulling the puppet strings of government... yeah, that's the dude we need in power.

If you are looking for the real reasons other people don't like Trump than try reading what people write that are against him, not just other Trump supporters making excuses for him or your own dismissive blinder-ridden bias. Try ingesting the actual facts about the guy. The real effect he is having on the population. His actual track record and flip-flop insanity. The actual ridiculous things he says.

Stop peddling Trump's low-grade divisive idiocy. Trump appeals to base emotions and the worst in American willful ignorance.

Do other politicians have issues... of course, but this is a Trump thread.



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posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 05:33 PM
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Vote Trump because Hillary is the other choice. Nuff said.



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 05:34 PM
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originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: pirhanna

As a husband to Mexican national I dont like it too much either. BUT he has a point. There needs to be something done to fix our immigration problem. IMO, and I may be wrong, but if they are funneled into LEGAL immigration, the stigma will fade away like Irish immigrants overcame theirs, to name one group in history that has faced similar frustrations with the US population due to out of control immigration with little to no integration.

As far as the spying, he is trying to focus on NON citizens and actual terrorism. He even says that a court order should allow access to metadata collection. That oversight is key to protecting our liberties while challenging threats effectively.

I respect your choice either way. You seem honest, so good luck man. May WE ALL WIN by a good candidate being elected.

Have a good one.
Hold it down.



Good points. I agree that the open borders, ignoring illegal immigration, needs to be totally fixed. I'm not sure I agree with his approach to fixing it. I hope that is the case with the spying. I'm against all torture on principle, enemy or not. That is good to know about his position on metadata collection. That says a lot if he means what he says.

Doing my best to wade through this election intellectually without being swayed by a barrage of emotional trigger-baiting that seems to be flooding our information stream. I don't want to react to it. I don't want to react in an opposite fashion to it either, but just weigh what's really out there.

The other thing I really like about Trump that is a big deal to me, is his approach to these insane nafta & tpp type agreements. Also, he won't push socialism down my throat, so that's a plus.



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 05:35 PM
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Lots of 'professionals' in Washington DC are threatened by Trump's ability to circumvent their rigged system, no doubt about that. Why pay millions to people like Karl Rove if you can win an election by going directly to the people?



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 05:36 PM
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I do wonder if Trump isn't just another puppet in a Punch and Judy show. But someone needs to do the bankers in Europe and the USA what the Icelanders did.



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 05:39 PM
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originally posted by: xavi1000


Dude, that freakin' picture just gave me chills down my spine. Why did you do that???

I'm not really for Trump or against him, as I see all Presidents as political puppets. The game is rigged folks and whether you vote for whomever it is that's next in line, things won't change. The only reason we have these elections is to keep this society's wheels turning, otherwise we'd be in deep # chaos.

I digress.

Why did you do this picture, I'm literally like freakin' out right now.



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 05:46 PM
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Uh, wasn't it just last month that you were so anti-Trump that the two of us butted heads over it in another thread? I seem to recall walking away from that with the feeling that you believed anyone who really supported the idea of a Trump presidency was evil incarnate, preparing the sacrifice needed to bring about the End of Days.

Why the new softened stance on the man?



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 05:52 PM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: tadaman

Uh, wasn't it just last month that you were so anti-Trump that the two of us butted heads over it in another thread? I seem to recall walking away from that with the feeling that you believed anyone who really supported the idea of a Trump presidency was evil incarnate, preparing the sacrifice needed to bring about the End of Days.

Why the new softened stance on the man?




Very well could be a social experiment. If it is, he deserves an Oscar!


If not, we all change or at least I hope most of us do......

Come hell or high water, I always try to use the Constitution as my "Moral Compass"...and believe it or not, just rereading that document has proven to me my thoughts and ideas have been wrong many a times.



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 05:59 PM
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well said your right on the money any ones who denies it is brainwashed by all the PC soviet censorship and cant see the bigger picture.
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posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 05:59 PM
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SOOOO give up? That is your sage words meant to change the world and suffering we live in?

I supported Ron Paul. That is why this time I wont stop. Last time the system proved how rigged it is. THIS TIME, we will not stop.

NOT until JUST HOW RIGGED IT IS, is exposed.

Take your pessimism to your gave- The rest of us wont give up so easily. We only learn how to better fight. We are stronger with each election, and eventually people like Trump, with the myriad of personalities both likable and not will flood the system.

This is not a popularity contest anymore. Its REAL, and honest democracy, whether anyone likes it or not.

But hey, enjoy the....what ever it is you think is better.




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