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Far Right protesters crash Brussels Peace March

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posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 02:21 PM
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a reply to: JIMC5499

I really don't think hate and intolerance are in the exclusive dominion of either the left or the right. In my experience, people with extreme views (on either end of the spectrum) are often the most close minded and absolutely unable to see any merit in any opposing views. History is full of examples of both the extreme left path and extreme right path going very badly and evolving into oppressive totalitarianism.
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posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 02:59 PM
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originally posted by: JIMC5499
Neo-nazis? I think you have the wrong side here. Nazi stood for National Socialist Party. That would be far Left not Right.


You have been member of this site for over a decade, haven't you learned anything ?!
What an embarrassing ignorant statement



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 03:08 PM
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a reply to: christophoros
I think you have a fixation on Adolph Hitler, you should read more about him and the state of Germany in the 1930s before you repeat what other people say about him. Why don't you educate yourself a bit more and don't discriminate other people based on what the MSM tells you.



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 03:17 PM
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a reply to: manuelram16

There are no redeeming qualities to hitler. He's a man who took advantage of the frustration of Germans who felt duped by their own government. Resentment to other European countries didn't help. But hitler will never garner one positive feeling from me.



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 03:29 PM
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a reply to: christophoros

Das ist wunderschön der führer



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 06:25 PM
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These "far right" people...isn't it their country too?
Just because the "far wrong" crowd on the left want to dictate the atmosphere of the demonstration, doesn't mean they have the right to, does it?

To some people showing their anger and defiance in the face of the recent attacks is the way to deal with what they feel. To others, wringing their hands and wearing a rainbow scarf works.



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 07:17 PM
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a reply to: SprocketUK

Bad taste. Dictate what atmosphere it was a walk for peace for Christ sake.



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 08:06 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Now, listen here BuzzyWigs...

I hate to tell you, but sometimes it is absolutely necessary for me to point out the failings of an American members historical knowledge, pertaining to their own nations history. Not knowing that living a republic which is administrated over by a democratically elected president, means that by definition you are living in a democratic nation, is a terrible failing of historical awareness.

Also, it must be said that with regard to the right/left paradigm, whether a good measure of things or not (and it is not) the American understanding of the difference between the two, explains how both your main parties are right wing by my standards as a British citizen. Most Americans would not know socialism if it bought them four years of college and a yearly heating allowance.



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 08:26 PM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

both your main parties are right wing by my standards as a British citizen. Most Americans would not know socialism if it bought them four years of college and a yearly heating allowance.


I concede. I have a lot of respect for you.
You knew that, I think. But just in case you didn't - I concede. (You're not "Western European", though, my friend. You're British. I have no issues with Brits or those in the UK at all.)



And PS: Thank you for your post.

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posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 08:45 PM
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a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Dearest Buzzy,

You should know that I have the greatest of possible respect for you as well. Although I realise that I am not geographically relevant to the post to which I responded however, I felt it necessary to respond as I did, because geographical location is no indicator of how well read on historical geopolitical matters a person may be.

Whether from the US, the UK, or the former USSR or any space between, the acquisition of data is no more or less likely, just because of geography. Truth is not subjective, after all.



posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 11:00 PM
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I've been referring to these groups as the far right. This is based on posts I've exchanged with some of our members located in Germany. It's also how these groups are referred to in the European press articles that I've read.

It's interesting to note, that among our German brethren, there was nearly as much trepidation about the rise of the far right as there was concern about the refugee's sexual assaults on New Year's Eve. In fact, one member suggested that at least some of the unrest due to the refugee influx was supported by the far right.

Now make no mistake, I do not condone the actions of this group, and I find their hateful racist spew to be nauseating. However, the growth of this group of right-wing extremists is a natural response to the refugee influx. The more these immigrants are viewed as problematic, the larger this faction will grow in response. I am befuddled why the European political leadership did not foresee this as a consequence of their decision to permit such mass immigration.

Expect this to not only get worse, but also more violent. Unfortunately the peace protesters who cried because their peace rally was upset by these mean and hateful neo nazis will not have the intestinal fortitude to oppose this growing force.

-dex

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posted on Mar, 28 2016 @ 11:10 PM
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originally posted by: christophoros
a reply to: SprocketUK

Bad taste. Dictate what atmosphere it was a walk for peace for Christ sake.


Exactly that. Maybe not everyone wants to wander the streets all quiet and reflective, some obviously want to rage against what has happened. There ought to be room for both, but too often the "moderates" the "progressives" will not allow any dissent, even if its tangential as it was in this case.

I'm not trying to make a case for people joining these groups, but the more they are marginalised, the more they are shut down and ostracised, the harder their own attitudes will become. Should have let them march and shout. It may not have been comfortable, but its better than turning the march into a battle, they wanted and end to this stuff the same as the rest of the marchers. They just voiced it differently.



posted on Mar, 29 2016 @ 08:20 AM
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a reply to: TrueBrit

You are right. My apologies for being irritable.

I'm giving up on this election anyway. Too much pushback. The last 7 years have proven that Congress won't do a damned thing if one of their own is not in office. Sickening, corrupt, but true.

Thanks for your as-always reasoned reply.



posted on Mar, 29 2016 @ 08:46 AM
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originally posted by: SprocketUK
I'm not trying to make a case for people joining these groups, but the more they are marginalised, the more they are shut down and ostracised, the harder their own attitudes will become. Should have let them march and shout. It may not have been comfortable, but its better than turning the march into a battle, they wanted and end to this stuff the same as the rest of the marchers. They just voiced it differently.


No, they want the same thing Daesh wants, chaos and division.
These neo-Nazis don't give a rats behind about the victims of these disgusting acts, they capitalize on them, they use them for recruiting, they sow more seeds of fear and division and reap the rewards of simple-mindedness.

Neo-Nazis should be treated in exactly the same way we treat any other threat to the population. They are extremists, they are violent, they are a threat to citizens of all colours, religions and political beliefs and they should not be given the oxygen they crave.

Nazism is based on the same fascist ideals as the Daesh death cult. Their motivations, their opinions and their beliefs are all the same at their core, they're just variants of the same sickening delusions.

You would not be claiming in 50 years that Daesh should be given the right to preach their beliefs in a public square. Nazis are no different.
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posted on Mar, 29 2016 @ 08:50 AM
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Actually a lot of what you describe as nazis are people who have had enough of the inaction and appeasement of the left.

As for daesh they can March for whatever they want in their own lands, not here though. We have a society that we are broadly happy with and don't want it ruined by religious nutters.

The right wing people have valid concerns that are shared by most right thinking folks and only ignored by those with a political axe to grind.



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