Monsanto’s Glyphosate Found in California Wines, Even Wines Made With Organic Grapes

a reply to: Blackmarketeer

Glyphosate breaks down in the soil.

If it didn't, it would kill all the other non-resistant plants in the vicinity. Including organic vines.

Alcohol is a class 1 carcinogen. Even if the glyphosate made it into your organic wine, it isn't the baddest boy in the glass.

a reply to: Whodathunkdatcheese

Oh yes it is..it is also a carcinogens, isn't it now? Only certain lobbyists try really hard.

The fact is glyphosphate is insanely destructive to humans and nature as a whole.

Wine is therapeutic in the right dose...glyphosphate is poison just like agent orange, saccharine and ddt (just to name a few) all manufacturered by mysatan. I mean Monsanto

a reply to: Whodathunkdatcheese

It does not break down in the soil and does kill everything in the vicinity. I organic farm and raise bees and chickens in between 2 conventional farms...you DON'T know what you're talking about. I live it everyday

a reply to: BlueJacket

But it does. Since I actually study it, I will one up you by saying that you don't know what you're talking about because I live it everyday.

a reply to: BrokedownChevy

Apparently not very well

a reply to: BrokedownChevy

You obviously don't study it btw, or you would know what spraying zillions of gallons of antibiotics does to you me the air the soil etc...it's physics and chemistry and you obviously don't know either

a reply to: Whodathunkdatcheese

It does you knucklehead I have pictures assays etc.. as do all educated people

You don't need to be educated. You just need to experience it. I am the soil this crap was tested on and it didn't break down in me. It broke me down.

a reply to: ClownFish

Agreed, I was overly inflammatory last night, I apologize, darn Jaegermeister!

Something of the round-up or similar other agricultural chemicals stay in the vine, soil and then grapes and here's how I know. I lived in Europe for a few years, mainly France and Switzerland. And I am a fan of their wines along with Italian and German wines. I came back in the mid 90's and found that I had to spit out the Californian wine and search the stores for French and German wines.

My grown son thought I was just being picky and I proposed an experiment. He would only drink French or German wine for the next month. No exceptions and I paid for them, lol. He agreed and for one month that is what he had with his dinners. After a month I asked him to buy several kinds of Californian wine and several kinds of French wines.

We opened them and did our own taste testing with spit out bowls handy. He opened one of the Californian wines and took a sip and his eyes got big and he spit it out! He said wow, that tastes like fly spray! What is that? We had a cracker and then opened a French wine and he went, Ahhhh, smooth as velvet, great flavor, great wine.

Another cracker and he poured a bit of another Californian wine and he once again said it tasted like fly spray or raid insect spray. Btw, I didn't even take a sip of the Calif. wines, I already knew. We then tried another French wine and again it was amazing and we stayed with that.

He started going on and on about spraying the vines and that must be the cause. I agreed and I remembered and told him about the herbs that grow in the midst of their vineyards and I explained Terroir to him. It's the soil and the it's effect on the flavor instilled from natural variants in the soil.

He said that the Calif. wine had tasted good to him until he switched to the French wine and that he thought we (Americans) just don't realize that our taste buds have gotten used to all the chemicals in the soil and on the harvest, and that he could clearly taste the difference now.

It's very clear that the soil and plants in California are saturated in all kinds of chemicals, glyphosate being one of them. Here's a link to a good article on possible links of neuro problems associated with herbicides, etc in susceptible people.

www.scientificamerican.com...

STM

a reply to: BlueJacket

No apologies necessary! I was supporting your statement, but still find myself marveling at how what appears to be a straight forward statement can actually be ambiguous; and it's Murphy's Law that the reader will see and hear the non-intended interpretation.

You're preaching to the choir here. Monsanto and the likes of them will not stop until pigs fly -- and if they continue to mess with the environment and its consequences on our cells, it may not be that far off that pigs begin to fly.

a reply to: seentoomuch

Good information. Most of my studying was from 2003 to 2007. I was unfortunate to be poisoned, but fortunate to know some top notch alternative specialists and philosophies at that time. No one knew what to do, but we knew what not to do, and I'm still here. A specialized fatty acids test and some extravagant blood tests revealed that I was "borderline MS, ALS and Parkinson's" back then.

I was also fortunate to be seen by Dr. Kilburn (RIP) of UCLA. He literally wrote the fat text book, "Chemical Brain Injuries." He was the one who diagnosed me and said I had also been exposed to Round-Up. I insisted that he was mistaken, as TrueGreen had lied to me and I believed them, but he got in my face and told me to ask them again. Sure enough, two years later they admitted that I was "only" exposed to Pendulum AquaCap and Round-Up. I managed to tape him saying this, but my administrative assistant had disconnected the recorder, so my proof went poof, and they changed their story again. That was understandable, as the MSDS said specifically not to mix these two products -- and the MSDS also went poof once they heard that I had been exposed to both. Quite a bit of behind the scene power these corporations have!

The cherry on the cake was arsenic. I still don't know where that came from, but it also came and stayed, as part of their chemical cocktail, as it's called. We had a providential history of hair analyses, so when our soil also unexpectedly tested for arsenic, we did another hair analysis and sure enough, now arsenic was present where it wasn't ever there before.

Fortunately, I was quite healthy and quite intelligent to begin with, so now cut back a few tabs, I still fall into a fairly intelligent range. Either that or I'm really good a faking it. Being old helps, as people lower their expectations. LOL. And as you can see, I tend to ramble....sorry OP!...that is also compliments of the poisoning.

The scary thing is that I am one of the lucky ones. I managed to live beyond two years, which apparently no one else has, with this level of exposure.

Anyway, thanks for the link....

a reply to: ClownFish

Wow, CF! What a horrible time for you! I hope with care to your diet and environment and lots of B-12 and alternative methods you overcome all aspects of the situation.

STM

a reply to: seentoomuch

Thanks STM!

If only I could throw in some California wines.

Instead, it looks like I will be throwing them out!

(Imagine this upside-down)

Well, actually it looks the same either way. But you know what I mean!