Sanders is sweeping it in Washington State!!!

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Thanks but I paid for my own education with my own blood sweat and tears. I lived through the entire cold war bud. I know what the words mean and I also know how the people lived and continue to live in those countries. You can sit on your cushy couch with a refrigerator full of food 15 feet away and you will never know what communism means. I have acquaintances from Russia who told me what that life was like. It was not all equality and support for all. It was suffering and lack for all unless you were part of the government.

originally posted by: neo96

originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: neo96

Forcing people to buy insurance that don't really need it and wouldn't have bought it otherwise makes them far more money then anything they'd lose by such compromises. They needed to make it at least sound reasonably good to sell it. Give people a little but take a lot more. It's a devil's deal.

See the problem there is the ACA was declared as a TAX.

Which means what ?

A win for the STATE, and since the MEDICAID rolls have been significantly expanded.

There is 'another' win for the state.

The only goal of the ACA was to bankrupt insurance companies, and make it MORE expensive like what the left has done to energy prices to offer their 'new' alternative. 'Universal' healthcare.

A STATE monopoly on a corporate product. When it already cornered the market.

The funny part there is look up medicare, and medicaid OUTSOURCING.,

And the STATE telling people on medicare, and medicaid to supplement their 'health insurance' with PRIVATE!.

The ACA is an absolute joke.

I would call it a rousing success. The intent was never to do anything, other than to destroy the existing system, and soften people up for single-payer health care. Standard Cloward-Piven stuff.

a reply to: OoGukMcGlucktuk

Or rake the oak leaves in the yard...

a reply to: Sillyolme

You mean when education didn't cost 35,000 a year?

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Again your figures are not including supers that, regardless of what you believe, are not going to turn away from the popular vote because they can't. And Hillary has the popular vote and is winning right now. Deal with that.

a reply to: BigScaryStrawman


Yeah. Saw that in later pages after I replied. Great minds....

a reply to: onequestion

In the 80's, when "paying for your own education" meant 7 hours a week at minimum wage for books + tuition, as opposed to now where the exact same education -- at the exact same school -- costs 21 hours per week at minimum wage.

Just for books and tuition.

Source: Goldenwest Community College, Huntington Beach CA. Tuition, fees and books; full time, 1987 vrs 2015.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Thanks but I paid for my own education with my own blood sweat and tears.

So did I.

I lived through the entire cold war bud.

So did I, "bud."

I know what the words mean

Apparently, no you don't.

and I also know how the people lived and continue to live in those countries.

In which countries? The Communist countries? We are talking about non-Communist countries who have universal health-care and education.
Big yuuuuuge difference.

You can sit on your cushy couch with a refrigerator full of food 15 feet away and you will never know what communism means.

Right! Because this will never be a Communist country, and Bernie is NOT promoting Communism.

I have acquaintances from Russia who told me what that life was like. It was not all equality and support for all. It was suffering and lack for all unless you were part of the government.

And it was not Democratic Socialism.

I have acquaintances from Russia who told me what that life was like. It was not all equality and support for all. It was suffering and lack for all unless you were part of the government.

And I have very good friends from Cuba - who are BERNIE SUPPORTERS.

a reply to: Sillyolme

Again your figures are not including supers

Dude, they can change their minds at the last minute. They generally go with the most popularly-voted candidate, but not always.

What is wrong with you that you don't know this?!!! Too much Fox News?

originally posted by: onequestion
a reply to: Sillyolme

You mean when education didn't cost 35,000 a year?

You mean when the states/feds were funding 90% of college expenses? Over the years they've cut back the amount they subsidize colleges, that's one of the biggest contributors to rising costs.

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originally posted by: Aazadan
You mean when the states/feds were funding 90% of college expenses? Over the years they've cut back the amount they subsidize colleges, that's one of the biggest contributors to rising costs.

Federal subsidies have only gone up, not down. They are currently $30billion dollars.

a reply to: Medicator

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Hey....quit with the caps-lock. And stop the trolling.

The Vermont senator swept Saturday's Democratic contests in Washington, Alaska and Hawaii, easily winning the majority of the 142 pledged delegates in those states.

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a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Are you thinking about corporate subsidies, though? You pay extra taxes for the underpaid people in many "global corporations" like Walmart, McDonalds, etc. So they don't starve.

Would you not rather that the corporations paid them enough to live on and have enough money to contribute to the economy (via spending), rather than you having to pay for them to have enough to eat?

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Are you thinking about corporate subsidies, though? You pay extra taxes for the underpaid people in many "global corporations" like Walmart, McDonalds, etc. So they don't starve.

Would you not rather that the corporations paid them enough to live on and have enough money to contribute to the economy (via spending), rather than you having to pay for them to have enough to eat?

He wants you to be a slave unless you have a perceived level of skill. Your perceived level of skill is literally the only determining factor in your worth it has nothing to do with anything else.

That's seriously what these people believe.

originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
Are you thinking about corporate subsidies, though?

We were referring to college subsidies. He stated they have decreased over time, they have not, they have gone up.

a reply to: Aazadan

You mean it has nothing to do with risk free loans?

originally posted by: onequestion
He wants you to be a slave...

Yup. Massa gonna be whippin' everyone up in dis here plantation.

And if you want to try and put words in my mouth try using the right ones. It is not 'skill' that determines how much you make, it is 'value'.

Maybe if you spent less time here complaining and more time adding to your own value you would be better off.

originally posted by: AugustusMasonicus

originally posted by: Aazadan
You mean when the states/feds were funding 90% of college expenses? Over the years they've cut back the amount they subsidize colleges, that's one of the biggest contributors to rising costs.

Federal subsidies have only gone up, not down. They are currently $30billion dollars.

Now compare that to the cost of goods, as well as state level funding.

a reply to: BuzzyWigs

Apparently you don't.