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Sanders is sweeping it in Washington State!!!

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posted on Mar, 26 2016 @ 10:57 PM
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a reply to: Swills

So far that's 3 on ATS.

Truly boggling.




posted on Mar, 26 2016 @ 10:58 PM
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originally posted by: links234

originally posted by: PsychicCroMag
No country has ever prospered under socialism they have all failed or are in failure mode.
Which model of socialism does burnie want to follow?


Norway, Sweden, Germany, Canada, etc.

I didn't realize all of those countries were failed nations and/or failing.


And on the top 10 happiest places in the world to live list. Syria, Afghanistan, and Africa are the bottom of that list.



posted on Mar, 26 2016 @ 11:10 PM
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originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Tax money that comes from a small increase on the country's richest people. You and I wouldn't have our taxes raised at all.


Geez, none of the Bernie people pay any attention to this, do they? I've posted this in at least a dozen Bernie threads where this lie that "you and I wouldn't have our taxes raised at all" is spread.
taxfoundation.org...

The wealthy would get screwed harder by Bernie's plan, but it would take a roll with every American who earns a paycheck, even you and I.



posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 12:09 AM
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originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Tax money that comes from a small increase on the country's richest people. You and I wouldn't have our taxes raised at all.


The wealthy would get screwed harder by Bernie's plan, but it would take a roll with every American who earns a paycheck, even you and I.


The more you "screw" the wealthy and the corporations, the more they "screw" the people who work for them. I was already a little guy. ObamaCare taxes on corporations made me even smaller. It's call the trickle-down phenomenon.



posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 07:45 AM
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a reply to: Teikiatsu

We get it. Palin lives rent-free in your head


WTH?
No, I barely ever think about her. She's ridiculous. It's just that I've seen her in the news lately, dissing Cruz (appropriately) but not dissing Trump. She's a joke, and I like Tina Fey's portrayal of her - but that's it....

So, as usual - you are wrong. And off-topic.



posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 07:46 AM
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a reply to: Teikiatsu

A 5 year old asking 'Why' and 'How' repeatedly could dismantle Bernie's rhetoric in about 5 minutes.


Uh.....Wrong! How is it you are so wrong ALL THE TIME?
I think you do it on purpose. .... behave like what we call a disinfo troll. If you'd simply suck it up and READ HIS PLATFORM, specifically HOW BERNIE PAYS FOR HIS PROPOSALS (click that highlighted part - it will take you to the explanation. That's how we get information on the webz. By clicking links and/or searching.)

Bernie Sanders has a plan to pay for every spending program he has introduced to date.
I would think you'd possibly understand it. Or maybe some of the words are too big for you, I dunno.


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posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 08:20 AM
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Not too bad for an establishment socialist.



posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 10:33 AM
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originally posted by: carewemust

originally posted by: burdman30ott6

originally posted by: MystikMushroom
Tax money that comes from a small increase on the country's richest people. You and I wouldn't have our taxes raised at all.


The wealthy would get screwed harder by Bernie's plan, but it would take a roll with every American who earns a paycheck, even you and I.


The more you "screw" the wealthy and the corporations, the more they "screw" the people who work for them. I was already a little guy. ObamaCare taxes on corporations made me even smaller. It's call the trickle-down phenomenon.


Except The ACA was in large written and approved the insurance companies. You've been duped into believing that it was created to help the American public. There is nothing socialist about Obamacare at all. It is quite possibly the biggest gift to private corporations ever created. Well, after the defense budget that is.

No one wants to screw corporations either. You're looking at it the wrong way. What the American public wants in large is to not be screwed ourselves. That is to say, being forced to purchase a product, having drug prices skyrocket for the sole reason of greed etc..

If you feel that screwing a corporation equates to scaling back their strangle hold on the American working class then you have some soul searching to do.

Corporations can not only exist without screwing over the public, but they would still thrive.



posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 11:22 AM
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xcept The ACA was in large written and approved the insurance companies.


Really ?

So the 'insurance' companies forced themselves to cover people with pre existing conditions, and cover 'kids' right up until the age of 26 on mommy,and daddies insurance.

That right there costs them tons of money.

Even more curious since the STATE was the largest 'insurance' provider in the country between medicare, and medicaid that has taken over 120 million people out the private sector.

That rakes in over an astounding 1 trillion dollars per year.

Can the 'socialists' name one single evil private 'insurance' company that has that many on the rolls,, and is a trillion dollar company?



posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 11:29 AM
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a reply to: neo96

Forcing people to buy insurance that don't really need it and wouldn't have bought it otherwise makes them far more money then anything they'd lose by such compromises. They needed to make it at least sound reasonably good to sell it. Give people a little but take a lot more. It's a devil's deal.



posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 11:38 AM
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OK

So what's the current delegate count?

Bernie supporters really need to go the distance.

And what about the upcoming primaries?

Does Sanders actually have a chance as long as Hillary is still in the race?

What about those super-delegates?

Can they switch over?




posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 11:38 AM
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Oh, and btw, he won Hawaii too.



posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 11:39 AM
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Everyone that is assuming Bernie is just a "Socialist" which is a very broad term -- isn't the saying deny ignorance? Go straight to the source and hear what "Democratic Socialism" is defined by Bernie Sanders.

Democratic Socialism DOES NOT do away with free markets. There's still money, still personal private property, still have the ability to get rich, still the possibility that you fall flat on your face if you don't work hard or just survive if you choose to do the menial or under valued. There would still be taxes to care for the incapable or people who for whatever reason are temporarily limited and to pay for government and infrastructure.

The fourth and last video goes into deep detail of what Democratic Socialism means to Bernie Sanders and is long but a good watch.








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posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 11:40 AM
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Does Sanders actually have a chance as long as Hillary is still in the race?

Yes. And even if he doesn't win the nomination, he has pulled her so far left that she won't be able to back out later without causing a huge backlash.


What about those super-delegates?

Can they switch over?


Yes, they can. Whenever they want --- clear up to nomination day.
So - they should not be counted in her numbers.....



posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 11:44 AM
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originally posted by: Puppylove
a reply to: neo96

Forcing people to buy insurance that don't really need it and wouldn't have bought it otherwise makes them far more money then anything they'd lose by such compromises. They needed to make it at least sound reasonably good to sell it. Give people a little but take a lot more. It's a devil's deal.


See the problem there is the ACA was declared as a TAX.

Which means what ?

A win for the STATE, and since the MEDICAID rolls have been significantly expanded.

There is 'another' win for the state.

The only goal of the ACA was to bankrupt insurance companies, and make it MORE expensive like what the left has done to energy prices to offer their 'new' alternative. 'Universal' healthcare.

A STATE monopoly on a corporate product. When it already cornered the market.

The funny part there is look up medicare, and medicaid OUTSOURCING.,

And the STATE telling people on medicare, and medicaid to supplement their 'health insurance' with PRIVATE!.

The ACA is an absolute joke.



posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 11:58 AM
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Bernie Sanders wants to make college tuition FREE. Called the
"College for All Act," a bill to make four-year public colleges and
universities tuition-free.

Which essentially means the tax payer will subsidize another big
government spending bill. FREE education is never free. It's hard
for people like Bernie to understand the basic concept that NOTHING
IS FREE in a free market economy. I might send Bernie a book on
economics so he can understand this. Our Federal Government already
has a National debt over 19 trillion, yet this
man thinks we can afford free college.

I have no idea what drives this entitlement mentality, but it's complete
insanity. Because it does not matter if he tries to tax wall street or
corporate interest, it's an idea flawed to failure and just exacerbate
our nations financial demise sooner than later.

Here's a novel idea Bernie, try to establish a plan to reduce our Federal Debt.
That's a more pressing issue than trying to send kids to college for free.
These pandering politicians will continue to burden
present and future generations to debt by these asinine projects.
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posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 12:10 PM
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No, he has a plan to pay for it, and it's a tiny percentage of a tax on the Wall Street speculators. And there are no more "pressing issues" than keeping Americans relevant globally with good education, or ensuring that no one in America starves or is allowed to die due to inaccessible health care or inability to pay health care costs.

You wanna reduce the federal debt? Stop having unending wars - and stop subsidizing other countries. Take care of our own FIRST.



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posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 12:20 PM
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originally posted by: BuzzyWigs
No, he has a plan to pay for it, and it's a tiny percentage of a tax on the Wall Street speculators.


Is that the .5% trading tax? If so it raises about $34billion over the next decade according to the Tax Policy Center. This is not enough to pay for everyone's college.



posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 12:23 PM
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Not everyone will want to go to college. It's not "forced college". It's "available college."



posted on Mar, 27 2016 @ 12:25 PM
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Understood but by 2020 or so there will be 23,000,000 people in college using the current trend of percentages. Even holding the average costs from today, which are about $17,000, this amounts to $340billion per year. There is not enough money generated from that tax to cover costs.



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