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Proof: Advanced Ancient Indian Civilization existed


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reply posted on 28-8-2009 @ 01:36 PM by Harte


Originally posted by El Davicho
I'm a bit new to this party, and haven't waded through all the responses. At the risk of sounding like a jerk, I need ot ask if it's been addressed that the Vymanika Shastra is not in fact an ancient Sanskrit text, but is a channeled text from the early 20th century?

I just want to make sure no one jumping into this thread with no forehand knowledge thinks it was part of the original Sanskrit epics, or dug up in an old dusty urn.

El Davicho,

It's been addressed and summarily ignored, as will, I'm sure, be the case in this instance.

There's no educating the bull headed nor the self righteous. Or the lazy.

Harte



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reply posted on 28-8-2009 @ 07:22 PM by punkinworks


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amen to that harte,

in most of the discussions in threads in this section it is painfully obvious the ignorance is not being denied at all but being embraced in the never ending citations of youtube videos and rediculous websites by so called experts.


many of whom have no actual education in or experience with the subjects at hand other than reciting dubious websites and youtube videos.

Almost anydiscussion turns into a nibiru nephalim world is growing and aliens built everything cavalcade of BS.



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reply posted on 29-8-2009 @ 02:21 AM by mmiichael


Originally posted by Harte
Originally posted by El Davicho
I'm a bit new to this party, and haven't waded through all the responses. At the risk of sounding like a jerk, I need ot ask if it's been addressed that the Vymanika Shastra is not in fact an ancient Sanskrit text, but is a channeled text from the early 20th century?

I just want to make sure no one jumping into this thread with no forehand knowledge thinks it was part of the original Sanskrit epics, or dug up in an old dusty urn.

El Davicho,

It's been addressed and summarily ignored, as will, I'm sure, be the case in this instance.

There's no educating the bull headed nor the self righteous. Or the lazy.



Hi Harte,

I'm new here and equally daunted by the hundreds of posts that have come before. From my sampling I somehow think I know what to expect.

I've known many people from India and have great respect for their culture and heritage. But I don't think there's anything ever discovered that even comes close to substantiating the stories of an ancient technologically advanced civilization in the Indian subcontinent 5-10,000 years ago or more.

Tell me if you're familiar with this phenomenon. There are people groups who feel compelled to retroengineer a glorious past history for themselves that never actually happened. We've seen this in Africa and parts of the Middle East where tribes claim to be descended from Lost Tribes of Israel, or King Solomon, or wherever. The whole Mormon religion, embraced by 3.5 million people, is based on the supposed existence of Israelites who settled in the Americas 2500 years ago. Not a shred of archeological evidence exists.

Is this motivated by low self-esteem, a compelling need to dress up one's own heritage. Are people somehow embarrassed by the reality that they have no glorious cultural past and feel the need to invent one.

Another great mystery.

Mike



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reply posted on 1-9-2009 @ 04:04 PM by Harte


Originally posted by mmiichael
Hi Harte,

I'm new here and equally daunted by the hundreds of posts that have come before. From my sampling I somehow think I know what to expect.

MM,
You ain't that new. You've been on my friends list for some time now.

I mean, you're not so new that you can't guess at how much hooie is posted in this thread. ("Deny Ignorance" indeed!)

Originally posted by mmiichaelI've known many people from India and have great respect for their culture and heritage. But I don't think there's anything ever discovered that even comes close to substantiating the stories of an ancient technologically advanced civilization in the Indian subcontinent 5-10,000 years ago or more.

There isn't, you're right.

And listen, most Hindus do not require scientific or material evidence for their faith, just as most people of any other faith don't require it of theirs.

It's kind of sad to see so-called religious people so lacking in faith that they have to "find" evidence that their Path is valid.

Most people just have faith. That's all that is really required. Scrounging through lies and deceptions trying to "prove" that your religion, or your culture, is "special" is just pathetic. And in the case of religion, is certainly not the way to go about proving your faith to your creator.

Originally posted by mmiichaelTell me if you're familiar with this phenomenon. There are people groups who feel compelled to retroengineer a glorious past history for themselves that never actually happened. We've seen this in Africa and parts of the Middle East where tribes claim to be descended from Lost Tribes of Israel, or King Solomon, or wherever. The whole Mormon religion, embraced by 3.5 million people, is based on the supposed existence of Israelites who settled in the Americas 2500 years ago. Not a shred of archeological evidence exists.

Is this motivated by low self-esteem, a compelling need to dress up one's own heritage. Are people somehow embarrassed by the reality that they have no glorious cultural past and feel the need to invent one.

Mike


Dude, I don't know the reason but I can say that no culture is immune. Take a glance at some of the political backstabbing done by the American Founding Fathers. They are always painted in this glorious light, but those guys were just as bastardly as any politician alive today, including Ted Kennedy (didn't want to exclude one of the lying scumbags just because he recently died! Wouldn't seem fair!)

Heck, think of the meaning of the phrase "The Good Old Days."
When the hell was that? When you could catch cholera from the human excrement that lined the streets of every halfway large U.S. city? Please.


Harte



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reply posted on 2-9-2009 @ 07:02 AM by AlienCarnage


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Heck, think of the meaning of the phrase "The Good Old Days."
When the hell was that? When you could catch cholera from the human excrement that lined the streets of every halfway large U.S. city? Please.



The good old days . . . that made me laugh when I read it . . . I remember my grandfather telling us of the good old days, and have heard my dad doing the same thing to my nephew and I am sure when my sons are older, he will relay it to them as well.

It seems that every generation thinks that in the time of their youth it was the good old days . . . . . I wonder if ancient man grandfathers told the youngsters of the good old days of their youth. It is these word of mouth tales that some of the legends, IMHO, come from in many instances.

As we get older and relay stories of our youth, we tend to embellish, it is not always intentional, sometimes we really believe the stories happened the way we tell them, but when you get two old friends together telling their story from their point of view, you get some slight alterations and even some huge ones.

I noticed this first hand when my grandfather and his brother where reminiscing of their childhood antics. If I relayed these stories with my cousins and siblings to my kids, nephew’s nieces, etc., I am sure that our stories would be further skewed. I am sure that if our kids retold the stories all the way down the line 4 or 5 generations later, the stories that started off as simple antics of my grandfather and his brother could possibly turn into a more fantastic story than it originally was.

This may be possibly the way that many legends and tails have risen for many millennia, even the ones leading to the belief that advanced civilizations where here previously. It could have been simply put that one tribe might have had for instance, the wheel that the other did not, to the tribe without it, this civilization would seem advanced. I use the wheel as an example, only because it was the first thing other than fire that came to mind.

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