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originally posted by: Swills
Clearly they hate the left so I guess they're from the right? If so, it would make sense why they blame the progressive left instead of the conservative right.
originally posted by: ketsuko
a reply to: Abysha
1.) You guys are so busy rebelling against things that you need to stop and look around. You are The Man now.
2.) You claim your coercion is backlash against our coercion. Well, two wrongs don't make a right.
Why on earth do you think I lean more libertarian on a lot of stuff. You feel forced? Or do you just resent society in general? Do you even know what or why society was the way it was? Do you think the people who set things up that way said, "Today, we are going to set out to oppress everyone with societal strictures! Huzzah! Tally ho!" Generally speaking, a lot of the things people scream are old, oppressive and need to change happen to be that way for a reason, mainly because they ended up being the most effective way of ordering society.
For example, a traditional marriage structure wasn't set up over millennia and through all those human societies because of universal gay hatred but instead because it was the best way to get and rear the next generation of that society in a stable manner. Children with a mommy and daddy have the best chance of being adequately provided for and the best chance of growing up reasonably well adjusted plus it helps with settling inheritance.
Or what about patriarchy? Realistically, men are larger and stronger and they do not suffer from being physically hampered by pregnancy and child rearing like women do. Not to mention, a society can lose a good chunk of its men and expect to re-propagate itself, but if it loses too many women, it will be severely crippled because women can only replace a population so quickly. It made sense culturally for men to be the aggressors and to fight and protect the women who nurtured the children.
Cultural roles do shift over time, but it should happen slowly and naturally, not coercively. Sure we women can choose to work now, but now society almost demands that we must, and our children suffer for it. Can we argue that the tradeoffs are worth the cultural shifts that have been forced on us? Now, a woman who wants to stay home and be mom is looked down on by society. Is that fair?