Human carbon release rate is unprecedented in the past 66 million years of Earth's history

Summary: Researchers look at changes of Earth's temperature and atmospheric carbon dioxide (CO2) since the end of the age of the dinosaurs. Their findings suggest humans are releasing carbon about 10 times faster than during any event in the past 66 million years.

Human carbon release rate is unprecedented in the past 66 million years of Earth's history

Greetings All ATS Readers,

It seems that whatever happens to ISIS, the economy, global trade or anything else may not matter. We have set in motion natural forces that we cannot hope to control and it will have a drastic effect on our planet and on us. The only question remaining is just how drastic that will be and we'll soon know. The computer models can give us a prediction and then it will happen and it won't be centuries but decades. Sorry folks but at my age I'm going to chicken out and die but I don't have much control over this. I didn't have much control over what's happened and you didn't either. Who's to blame? Does it really matter? If we go extinct it was a great run but we didn't make it to the stars. My best,

Faster than the last time Yellowstone blew it's top?

Or any other super volcano ?

I highly doubt it.

a reply to: neo96

Don't be so cynical, these people were probably paid good money through some Government grant scheme to research this.

a reply to: airforce47

so you are saying we are all going to die. Cool, I agree completely.

I do have a suggestion though. Since it likely won't be today, or tomorrow, you may as well enjoy yourself and not worry about the silly #. When it happens, it will happen. Good news is, the grocery still has beer.

And I hear polar bear is good eating, so we can do something positive and not let them go to waste and just die when there is no more ice. Steaks and roasts. Mmmmmmm, good.

a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Funding for this research was provided by the U.S. National Science Foundation and the European Union.

a reply to: neo96

Well faster than when the supercontinent Pangea was breaking up according to this source,

www.wunderground.com...

After years of research, the PETM is now thought to have been caused by greenhouse gas emissions, similar to how the earth is warming today. 56 million years ago, at the end of the Paleocene epoch, the supercontinent Pangaea was in the final stages of breaking apart into the continents as we know them today. As the land masses split apart, volcanoes erupted and molten rock bubbled toward the Earth's surface, literally baking carbon-rich sediments and releasing the greenhouse gas into the air. During this time, atmospheric temperature probably increased by a couple of degrees.

ooh we need more laws, more controls, more taxes!

Give me a break.

Fart.

Why don't you guys refute the OP with some actual science instead of just dismissing it outright with your meaningless words.

Show some links to some studies that refute this. Untill then you can deny it untill your face turns blue but it still wont make a difference.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

You mean post the work of someone else , and pass ourselves off 'experts' ?

News flash those models are only as good as the information they put in them.

And last time I checked.

There isn't a single person or technology that has been around for over 5 billion years.

At best it's a 'guess'.

A guess that says one day we're all gonna die. Some day.

So repent, and create a bunch of new laws, and taxes, and schemes to 'save the planet'.

Of course all it takes is one Yellowstone to show just how insignificant mankind truly is.

And here is another little factoid.

The climate has been in a constant state of motion.

Has been for EONS.

It's gonna change. Like it has always done.

originally posted by: DutchMasterChief
a reply to: neo96

Well faster than when the supercontinent Pangea was breaking up according to this source,

www.wunderground.com...

After years of research, the PETM is now thought to have been caused by greenhouse gas emissions, similar to how the earth is warming today. 56 million years ago, at the end of the Paleocene epoch, the supercontinent Pangaea was in the final stages of breaking apart into the continents as we know them today. As the land masses split apart, volcanoes erupted and molten rock bubbled toward the Earth's surface, literally baking carbon-rich sediments and releasing the greenhouse gas into the air. During this time, atmospheric temperature probably increased by a couple of degrees.

Wait, the earth had green house gas 56M years ago.....more than we have now???? And there were less humans????? AAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I only see the Amish being Carbon-free, when are all the 'Climate change' crowd gonna be riding horse carts and not using electricity from the grid ?

a reply to: neo96

Thanks for those links validateing your claims. That really helped your arguement.

originally posted by: manuelram16
I only see the Amish being Carbon-free, when are all the 'Climate change' crowd gonna be riding horse carts and not using electricity from the grid ?

Oh they are around.,

Using 'alternative' energy like solar panels made in China. That gets created by using fossil fuels.

Kind defeats the purpose I say.

I don't think there is a person on the planet that doesn't want clean air, clean water, and conservation of our natural resources, and protection for every species that share this planet with us.

However, there is a battle going on right now for power and control of $$$$$$$$$$.

Politicians, governments, Big Businesses, Investors, etc., depending on what they WANT statistics to say, all have an "interpretation". They give scientists and researchers money to "study" statistical data. They all want that data to be interpreted in a way that supports their purposes.

Politicians want a particular outcome because they have special interests that grease their palms.
Governments want a particular outcome because they want to tax more.
Big Businesses want a particular outcome because they want industry control and more investors.
Investors want a particular outcome, because they want to see a return on their investment.

I have driven through hundreds of miles of West Texas where the wind farms go on forever and thought to myself, how many birds are these things killing, and the constant churning of the wind is bound to affect the climate in some way. But, alas, I am not a scientist....(but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express!)

And...sure enough...it does! www.scientificamerican.com...

Wind Power Found to Affect Local Climate

California’s new solar power plant is actually a death ray that’s incinerating birds mid-flight

www.extremetech.com...

The impact that solar farms have on individual species can send ripples throughout entire ecosystems. For example, animals like burrowing owls in California’s Mojave Desert rely on burrows dug by desert tortoises for shelter (See Reference 4). When solar farms harm or remove species within a habitat, they also remove the valuable ecosystem services that they provide to the habitat. The habitat becomes less livable for plants and wildlife that have adapted to its specific conditions.

classroom.synonym.com...

Sometimes mankind's rush to fix something, results in something worse down the road.

Many people don't put that much trust in scientists, just like we don't always trust what the doctor says. More people have been killed by doctor errors than by gun deaths!

Although scientists tend to have a god complex, we all know how many times they have been wrong and how often the science changes with "new light".

The Church of Climatology is in a debate right now over doctrine, who is going to be the Big Kahuna, and where the plate will be passed around for donations and funding. Just since the 70's, they have changed "doctrinal" views a dozen times. So, cool the radical fanaticism and definitely put a lid on the constant bellowing for a global tax on producers of the world.

a reply to: StoutBroux

I am not taking a stand on either side of the discussion, but it seems that you are not getting the concept.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: neo96

Thanks for those links validateing your claims. That really helped your arguement.

Anytime.

I wonder if the church of climatology ever gets tired of pushing DOOM Porn.

a reply to: queenofswords

Politicians, governments, Big Businesses, Investors, etc., depending on what they WANT statistics to say, all have an "interpretation". They give scientists and researchers money to "study" statistical data. They all want that data to be interpreted in a way that supports their purposes.

I think the climate issue shows us ALL who the neocon's truly are.

Trying to control the entire planet.

Trying to control the very air,land,and water we use.

Totalitarianism, and here is some junk science to 'validate' it.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
Why don't you guys refute the OP with some actual science instead of just dismissing it outright with your meaningless words.

Show some links to some studies that refute this. Untill then you can deny it untill your face turns blue but it still wont make a difference.

Why, have you seen a peer reviewed document from the OP source? I'm still looking, can you link it?

edit: hrm, only a preview seems to be available, apparently it's behind a paywall.

www.nature.com...

Well I ain't paying $32 for that lol.

a reply to: Alien Abduct
Good luck with that. Some wish to drown out meaningful discussions with unintelligent dribble.

The science is clear, humans are responsible for an enormous source of CO2.