The Trumpening (No Brakes!)

originally posted by: Gryphon66
a reply to: stormcell
but what does that have to do with the fact that most Americans, by reasonable measure, disapprove of Mr. Trump by a two-to-one margin?

2/3's of Americans can also tell you the #1 draft pick's for the last decade and who Kim Kardashian is currently boinking. But can't tell you how many presidents we have had or how many branches our government has.
Sorry but the "most Americans" statement has lost a lot of value over the last few months.

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Trump's approval rating, in a compilation of 117 polls, is at 32.6%

Trump's disapproval rating is at 61.6% and has been above fifty percent in every poll.

Despite what True Trump Believers contend, most of America doesn't like him.

Source: Huffington Post, aggregation of 117 polls, updated 7 hours ago

But since those numbers are total BS you just posted, he continues to win?

a reply to: Gryphon66

Election results isn't a blind belief, it's a fact.

But you can go on "believing" your anecdotal poll results as fact while reality continues to move forward without you.

www.politico.com...

R Donald Trump 40%

R Ted Cruz 31%

R John Kasich 25%

Not sure 5%


That is from Politico which hates Trump, but even they cant deny most republicans endorse Trump. I wonder what the numbers REALLY ARE

Its really a non issue. The republicans are up in arms BECAUSE the party is by and large behind him instead of their establishment choices-

originally posted by: NoCorruptionAllowed

originally posted by: Gryphon66
Trump's approval rating, in a compilation of 117 polls, is at 32.6%

Trump's disapproval rating is at 61.6% and has been above fifty percent in every poll.

Despite what True Trump Believers contend, most of America doesn't like him.

Source: Huffington Post, aggregation of 117 polls, updated 7 hours ago

But since those numbers are total BS you just posted, he continues to win?

Why are they BS again? You seem to have left that detail out.

He wins Republican primaries thus far, but jeez, look at what y'all had to pick from.

Most American voters are Independent and Democratic (about 67%). Pew Research

a reply to: tadaman

By looking at your numbers, most Republicans do not support Trump. Well under half do.

originally posted by: tadaman
www.politico.com...

R Donald Trump 40%

R Ted Cruz 31%

R John Kasich 25%

Not sure 5%


Read more: www.politico.com...

That is from Politico which hates Trump, but even they cant deny most republicans endorse Trump.

Its really a non issue. The republicans are up in arms BECAUSE the party is by and large behind him instead of their establishment choices-

Just going on your posted figures here, indeed, most Republicans do not endorse Trump:

Do the math on your own post.

Trump: 40%

Cruz and Kasich: 56%

Here is evidence for Bernie supporters going to Trump should Hillary pull her typical dirty Tricks to get him out.

Almost 700 people replied to the call-out, and some 500 of them said they were thinking the unthinkable: a Sanders-Trump switch.

www.theguardian.com...

Be very careful what you wish for, because most Americans have an unfavorable view of Clinton and Bernie Sanders already beats Trump by a wider margin. I’m only voting for Bernie Sanders in 2016 and I explain why in this YouTube segment. Most importantly, Democrats should remember that 33% of Bernie Sanders voters will refuse to vote for Clinton in November, if she becomes nominee.

www.salon.com...

www.huffingtonpost.com...

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: madmac5150

Trumps approval ratings among republicans is GREAT.

Independents see him as the only option after bernie since he is kind of an independent.

Democrats for bernie would like him over more Clinton corruption

Thats the simple truth

Above is what is going to make the general election interesting.

Trump is doing great among Republicans in the primaries.
Republicans really don't want Clinton, so I am guessing that they will vote for Trump if he is the Republican choice, even if they did not select him in the primaries.

Independents who are not able to vote in primaries where state primaries are closed have not even been counted yet.
Independents will likely not vote for Clinton in the general election.

Since it looks like Sanders will likely not make it, unless Clinton gets arrested in the meantime, I doubt his supporters will go to Clinton.

So, in addition to his true supporters, Trump will likely gain many independents and Sanders supporters, as well as Republicans who will take any Republican over Clinton.

I think Trump has a very good chance in a general election against Clinton.

Of course - if Clinton gets charged for her crimes, and Sanders is the fall-back, the election would also be interesting but for different reasons.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Are you daft?

That is a one on one comparison. AND HE IS IN AHEAD OF EACH.

But you are right. That is why the GOP is up in arms and trying to scramble because the GOP nomination is going to Trump.

Should you call and give them the all clear or should I ?

SEE this is how numbers and statistics can be used to say what ever the hell you want.

YOU JUST SAID THE REPUBLICAN FRONT RUNNER FOR THE GOP NOMINATION is not favored by Republicans.

Are you daft?

a reply to: tadaman

From your first linked article ...

n an NBC News/Wall Street Journal survey conducted by Hart Research Associates this month, 7% of Sanders voters said they could see themselves supporting Trump. Some 66% said the same for Clinton. A similar proportion of Sanders folk – 8% – gave Trump a positive likeability rating, compared with 48% for Clinton. That figure is unlikely to be causing Clinton campaign aides much loss of sleep.

7-8% of Bernie supporters voting for Trump? Pardon the pun, but what difference will that make?

a reply to: Gryphon66

Which article?

The one that said 500 of 700 asked said they would switch or the one that said AT LEAST 33% would?

a reply to: Gryphon66

It will make a difference because it would mean some Democrats would rather vote for Trump than for Clinton in the general election.

a reply to: tadaman

No, I'm not "daft" nor am I a Trump True Believer ... but I can do basic math.

You are desperately trying to say that most Republicans support Trump.

Your own figures say otherwise.

No, numbers cannot be used to say anything if they are accurately understood and used honestly.

You're talking about REPUBLICAN voters ... and you showed that 56% of them don't favor Trump.

Yes, I did say that Trump is not favored by a majority Republicans according to your posted numbers

I can't help it if you didn't understand what you were posting.

originally posted by: BlueAjah
a reply to: Gryphon66

It will make a difference because it would mean some Democrats would rather vote for Trump than for Clinton in the general election.

The difference, as I said, in the article cited was 7-8% of Bernie Supporters. That means 92-93% would vote Clinton.

Again, basic math coupled with the truth is our friend.

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Gryphon66

Which article?

The one that said 500 of 700 asked said they would switch or the one that said AT LEAST 33% would?

I quoted the article.

Read, sloth.

a reply to: Gryphon66

SOURCE?

You didnt link it.

So you are emotional and upset?

Is this how you plan to fool us?

You know I did post several articles. I think you are confused.

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Gryphon66

SOURCE?

You didnt link it.

So you are emotional and upset?

Is this how you plan to fool us?

My god ... Quoted from your first article above.

Here, I'll help: Tadaman's UK Guardian Article link posted again

originally posted by: tadaman
a reply to: Gryphon66

SOURCE?

You didnt link it.

So you are emotional and upset?

Is this how you plan to fool us?

No, I'm not the emotional and upset one here.

As I said, several times now, from your first article linked.

Sometimes, you need to read more than just the titles.

a reply to: Gryphon66

Oh lord.

THEY WERE REFUTING THOSE FINDINGS

DERP

Of the respondents who shared their views, 61% said they were motivated by an anti-Hillary feeling – the remainder were split down the middle between saying they were “pro-Trump” or felt equally pro-Trump and anti-Hillary.

The entire article is about exposing how the sentiment and figures thrown around DONT MATCH REALITY. Those were funded by ESTABLISHMENT PRESS. The POINT THE WERE TRYING TO MAKE!


Oh that was funny.

Thank you

You dont have basic reading comprehension skills math wizard.