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One quote from a gospel many years removed but is not harmonized with any of the others that are earlier documents .
Gospel of Thomas 12 (12) - The disciples said to Jesus, "We know that you are going to leave us. Who will be our leader?"
originally posted by: Mazzini
a reply to: ChesterJohn
I really couldn't care less what you think. You are only providing what you think.
But the church doesn't/didn't agree and I don't care if it was official or not in the New Testament.
This is not a New Testament only proposition and you are scared of anything extra biblical even if it's evident but not stated.
James was Bishop of Jerusalem. The Jerusalem church was the Apostolic church until Rome expelled the Jews.
You are wrong a LOT.
So James is one of the others that were discussing the aspect of circumcision . James is quoted but had it been one of the others ,they would fall into the one that could be considered Bishop .....James the elder , but Peter and John would also be of the elder status so ....And Paul was correct in his understanding as the others confirmed and sent others back to Antioch to give the judgement of the matter .
But if you need biblical evidence that James was the leader of the Apostles I refer you to when Paul and Barnabas are seeking wisdom, specifically regarding circumcision, it is James that they seek answers from and who, along with other Apostles, consults the Holy Spirit.
You may have the wrong context to this . A Idol is nothing ..meat offered to a idol is nothing in that it can not add to anything spiritual . So like Peter was shown with the blanket let down and told to eat ,kosher means nothing .Because what goes in the stomach does not defile a man but what comes out of his mouth can defile him .Paul is ok on this when you look at it ,and compare it to other scriptures . Peter had issues with even hanging with gentiles .Paul called him a hypocrite because God had broken the wall of partition between the Jew and the Gentile .
Do you honestly think that Jesus would allow someone who he talked to and made "apostle" to teach condemned teachings IN HIS NAME?
in the book of acts there was someone who not only asked but was willing to pay money .
Revelation 13:14 But I have a few things against you: you have some there who hold to the teachings of Balaam, who taught Balak to put a stumbling block before the people of Israel, so that they would eat food sacrificed to Idols..."
…13He performs great signs, so that he even makes fire come down out of heaven to the earth in the presence of men. 14And he deceives those who dwell on the earth because of the signs which it was given him to perform in the presence of the beast, telling those who dwell on the earth to make an image to the beast who had the wound of the sword and has come to life. 15And it was given to him to give breath to the image of the beast, so that the image of the beast would even speak and cause as many as do not worship the image of the beast to be killed.
The issue was actually some Jews thought that they had to add circumcision to the equation for salvation .Paul said no and the rest agreed .The meat issue was also a issue .Well at least the though about meat offered to idols was . It would be like thinking that there is some spiritual thing to gain from circumcision .
The apostles and elders, your brothers, To the Gentile believers in Antioch, Syria and Cilicia: Greetings. 24 We have heard that some went out from us without our authorization and disturbed you, troubling your minds by what they said. 25 So we all agreed to choose some men and send them to you with our dear friends Barnabas and Paul— 26 men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. 27 Therefore we are sending Judas and Silas to confirm by word of mouth what we are writing. 28 It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond the following requirements: 29 You are to abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell.