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American College of Pediatricians Says Teaching Children Transgenderism Is Child Abuse

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posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 05:11 PM
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originally posted by: Freija
I've bookmarked a couple of articles I would encourage anyone genuinely interested in this read and review.......

......We have a responsibility to put our own issues aside and do what is best for them.


Hi Freija,
I just wanted to let you know that I thought your entire reply was beautifully written. Really good information...wish I could give you more than a star.

Personally, I definitely knew my orientation by age 4, when I developed my first crush on a boy. My three kids all developed crushes at around the same age and they were never pushed to conform to stereotypes.

I don't think I would have been open to surgery or hormones at such a young age (had any of them felt trapped in a wrong body)...but I would have been as supportive as possible until they were older.

jacy




posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 05:24 PM
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My 4 year old thought they were a TMNT for a year. Life altering decisions aren't left up to 4 year olds. Stop placating people.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 06:02 PM
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Thank you, jacygirl, and for your willingness to engage in this conversation.


originally posted by: jacygirl
I don't think I would have been open to surgery or hormones at such a young age (had any of them felt trapped in a wrong body)...but I would have been as supportive as possible until they were older.

jacy


In this country, any surgical intervention is very rare before the age of eighteen. For pre-pubescent children, the most that is ever done is to allow a child to socially transition to see if it improves their quality of life and happiness. A simple change of clothing, hair style, name and pronouns can have a dramatic positive effect at this age and is completely reversible. While it is true that some following this path do desist and may grow up to be gay or lesbian, large numbers do not. (See End of the Desistance Myth linked above)

For those children approaching or at puberty, the prevailing protocol for the properly diagnosed child is to administer puberty suppressing drugs referred to as blockers which prevent the undesirable physical development of secondary sexual characteristics. Imagine seeing the hellish torment of your daughter sprouting facial hair, her voice crack and deepen and for her muscular and skeletal features to develop as male or how horrific for your son to develop breasts or have periods.

The effects of blockers are fully reversible. If withdrawn, normal puberty aligned with gonadal sex will proceed. Blockers are employed as kind of an interim step allowing additional time for a child to mature emotionally but many consider them more a buffer for parents and physicians to relieve themselves of doubt they are doing the right thing. Kids at this stage are tested, evaluated and involved in ongoing counseling and therapy. Nobody takes this lightly.

Blockers started before or at puberty can be administered for several years in some cases. In others, administration of cross sex hormones, estrogen for natal males and testosterone for natal females begins earlier (13-14). A transgender sixteen year old girl is going to feel pretty terrible if she hasn't developed breasts like her peers, for example. Although much more difficult at this point, the effects from HRT are still mostly reversible and I can find no examples in literature or research of transgender youth getting this far and then changing their mind. All they want to do is grow up, fit in and be as much like regular folks as possible.

What parents can do and must do if their child is transgender is homework and research to learn the best way to love, support and affirm their child. Gender Spectrum is an organization I am involved with and their website has valuable resources for finding out more.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 06:03 PM
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originally posted by: Southern Guardian
No, the American College of Pediatricians is a biased political organisation.

FYI, so is the ACLU.

The ACLU is nothing more than a communist front masquerading as an advocate of human rights...

The National Enquirer probably has more credibility in fact...


Illuminists established the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) to destroy Christianity and to promote other goals of the illuministic New World Order in the courts. In 1920, Roger Baldwin, Elizabeth Gurley Flynn (Communist Party official), William Z. (head of the United States Communist Party), Felix Frankfurter, Amos Pinchot, (Skull and Bones member, active supporter of the Bolsheviks), Upton Sinclair, Dr. Harry F. Ward (Communist, Union Theological Seminary), Norman Thomas (a socialist), and others founded the American Civil Liberties Union. It was formed from the merger of several organizations developed during World War I whose members included Communists, German agents, pacifists, radicals, socialists, and assorted other left-wingers.

Its primary purpose was, and continues to be, to promote Illuminism by protecting Communists, anarchists, and other political radicals and libertines. It provides attorneys for radical criminals and agitators. By bringing lawsuits before favorable judges to set precedence, it advances Illuminism. It has advanced the cause of Communism while seeking to suppress Christianity and route every vestige of it from public life. Communism is the goal. Such are the goals of the American Civil Liberties Union.

Other Illuministic Organizations

One of the great myths of the 20th – and now 21st – century is the belief that the American Civil Liberties Union was an organization that had a noble beginning, but somehow strayed off course. That myth is untrue. The ACLU set a course to destroy America – her freedom and her values – right from the start.

From its very beginning, the ACLU had strong socialist and communist ties. As early as 1931, the U.S. Congress was alarmed by the ACLU’s devotion to communism. A report by the Special House Committee to Investigate Communist Activities stated

The American Civil Liberties Union is closely affiliated with the communist movement in the United States, and fully 90 percent of its efforts are on behalf of communists who have come into conflict with the law.

The ACLU's shocking legacy

The origins of the American Civil Liberties Union are deeply entangled with Communism. Not the idealistic “liberals in a hurry” stuff of fellow-travelling fairy tale, but the bloody-minded sedition and revolutionary terror of hard historical reality.

ACLU founder Roger Baldwin’s radicalism caught the eye of the FBI, which quoted him in a 1924 report as having said: “The right to advocate a violent revolution, assassination, and proletarian Red guard, are all clearly within scope of free speech …” The ACLU founder traveled to Stalin’s Russia in 1927 and wrote a book titled “Liberty Under The Soviets” the following year, which defended the Lenin’s and Stalin’s repression of dissent because they “are weapons in the transition to socialism.”

The ACLU’s Communist origins




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posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 06:12 PM
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themattwalshblog.com...

This guy echoes my current feelings on the issue.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 06:55 PM
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a reply to: Boscowashisnamo

Well, I know I spent all that time fantasizing about being a horse in part to escape a difficult reality where I was being bullied and because I thought life would be much simpler that way.

I also spent time thinking that maybe if I were a boy, I'd be happier, but it never manifested into me thinking I ought to be try to act and dress like a boy anymore than I acted or dressed like a horse. And there are some people who take horse play to that extreme as a means to escape.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 07:36 PM
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a reply to: ketsuko

I agree that there is some of that but there is also undeniably people born with the wrong sex organs. People with perfectly good lives that from the beginning just identify as the opposite sex.

That being said you should give the children a chance to grow up without making them a cause, an expirement, or a money making big pharma profit. People need to chill out love their kids, know themselves enough to do so and guide and support them in whatever they are born with. Dont make your kids a cause, dont just look for an easy explanation when things are tough or out of the ordinary, don't force them to be or not be who they are , definitely don't make them feel bad about their inner person even if it's hard to understand. Just be a good parent.

I suspect you are I was just getting that out.
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posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 08:19 PM
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As a dad to 4 kids under 10-years-old, I feel terrible for children afflicted with a gender identity crisis. Their lives are pure hell even with a supportive home and family.

I used to believe it was a choice for kids but I witnessed it first hand with a neighbor — a young teen going thru gender reassignment therapy and later surgery - there was no 'choice' her life was full of fear and depression before and sadly after. No one picks this path, why would they? It's a social death sentence.

As for the age of the child in this case - 4 - I'm not sure how I feel honestly. It seems too young for reasons already listed by member SeaWorthy (page 1, bottom). As a dad my gut tells if it were my family I'd compassionatly hold out until puberty, then reassess the condition with the child and experts.

If it got dangerous for the child (bullying, et al) I'd opt for home schooling. Again nobody chooses this condition, it's medical both mentally and physically.

We all need compassion, and to teach to our kids it too. And think about the parents -at least in the US in all states they'll be marked as outcasts as well.

ETA : To the the direct point of the OP and as for the American College of Pediatricians- whatever they're fiction spouting people. But, I don't think transgenderism should be taught to elementary school aged children unless a student in their grade is experiencing it. Otherwise it'll just unnecessarily add to the confusion of identity.
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posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 08:34 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
Well, I know I spent all that time fantasizing about being a horse in part to escape a difficult reality where I was being bullied and because I thought life would be much simpler that way.


So do you think transgender kids transition because there will be LESS bullying? Why would anyone "want" to do this? Think about it.


I also spent time thinking that maybe if I were a boy, I'd be happier, but it never manifested into me thinking I ought to be try to act and dress like a boy anymore than I acted or dressed like a horse.


Congratulations, you weren't transgender! Seriously, equating this to acting or dressing like a horse is ridiculous and this comparison is heard so often by these kids and parents as to become a meme in its own right. This is not fantasy, imagination or playtime for these kids. It is a harsh reality and fundamental to who they are. They aren't confused and know the difference between make-believe and what is true in their heart and soul. There is a vast chasm between wanting to be a boy or a girl and knowing which one you are.




posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 08:44 PM
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a reply to: Freija

I don't agree with giving kids blockers. It isn't proven to be effective and is in a sense expirementing with your child. How can you prove the hormonal change at puberty won't actually change the identity? I think that approach should be used with extreme caution. Extreme. Before you know it it will be standard protocol like giving an active child speed because you are having trouble with parenting.

You shouldn't tamper with children's chemistry unless it's extreme. Your source is an advocate not a neutral study. This is going to be big business for pharma like all the other over prescribing they do through medical and psychology.

It's very difficult and a tough situation. I have worked and had to deal with transgender kids in music and wrestling. I fully understand the torment. The thing is the results from gender reassignment are not creating a majority of happier people. It's a tough life and much of the real problem is societies reaction. I personally as a father would so everything I could to love and support my child. I would find a very liberal school or homeschool but would leave any medical transition for after puberty. All the non chemical forms of transition would be fine with me. The chance of a Dr being wrong is far to high.

My son was supposedly add. His pediatrician recommended he get tested for add and the psychiatrist wanted to give him adderol. We changed his diet, made sure he had enough exercise, and limited his screen time, and got him involved in band and visual art. He has been in Honors classes with A B average ever since. That was 4 years ago he was 8 when they wanted to give him drugs. Of course there are extreme cases who may need drugs to function. The way psychology is however they will jump on the newest drugs and over prescribe and over diagnose problems.
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posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 10:17 PM
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originally posted by: luthier
I don't agree with giving kids blockers. It isn't proven to be effective and is in a sense expirementing with your child. How can you prove the hormonal change at puberty won't actually change the identity? I think that approach should be used with extreme caution. Extreme. Before you know it it will be standard protocol like giving an active child speed because you are having trouble with parenting.

You shouldn't tamper with children's chemistry unless it's extreme. Your source is an advocate not a neutral study. This is going to be big business for pharma like all the other over prescribing they do through medical and psychology.

Thank you for sharing your opinion and I appreciate your concerns and understand where they're coming from. That's not saying I won't offer counter commentary or maybe an opinion of my own or two although I try to avoid feelings over facts.

Hormone blockers have been used in the treatment of transgender children for 20 years and if it wasn't an effective avenue of therapy do you think they'd still be doing it? These same drugs have been in use since the 1970's for other indications and are considered to be relatively safe.

That's not denying there may be risks or as of yet unidentified issues but when it comes to treating intensely gender dysphoric, i.e. transsexual youth, the risks of doing nothing are so very much higher for these children. Subjecting them to physical changes that will only serve to intensify their emotional and psychological misery and make their adult lives as men and women more difficult is just plain cruel and inhumane, if you ask me. 57% of transgender youth that don't have parental support or receive needed medical treatment will have attempted suicide before the age of 20. The rate of suicide for that do get the affirming care and familial support is 4%. This should scare the living crap out of parents. Yes, having or being a transgender child is extreme, very much so and for far too many, a matter of life and death that needn't be. Risk needs to be weighed on an individual basis between the child, the parents and their doctors.

Here's some things to read and consider:

Pausing Puberty with Hormone Blockers May Help Transgender Kids

When Transgender Kids Transition, Medical Risks are Both Known and Unknown

Again, the risks of doing nothing are very high.


The thing is the results from gender reassignment are not creating a majority of happier people.

It doesn't take a whole lot of looking to determine this simply isn't true. Care to provide some unbiased sources to back this up since you seem to think my sources are unbiased? Just because a scientist or researcher investigates something doesn't automatically assign bias to their results. This is one of those circular slippery-slope sort of deals.


I personally as a father would so everything I could o love and support my child. I would find a very liberal school or homeschool but would leave any medical transition for after puberty. All the non chemical forms of transition would be fine with me. The chance of a Dr being wrong is far to high.

Indulge me a moment for a hypothetical, if you will? Let's say you had a transgender male assigned child that fully socially transitioned to living as a girl in the first or second grade and no one outside of your family and doctors were aware. Are you really going to force this girl to go through male puberty when she is older? Are you going to make her wait until she is 18 with a masculinized body before medical help is allowed? Chances are by then if she isn't already dead she'll have run away and likely be doing sex work for survival or be blasted out with drug or alcohol abuse. This is what happens far too often and it needs to change.

Thank you again for your comments and for helping open up the discussion about these things.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 10:48 PM
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I am glad you shared your feelings and insight gained through the experience with your neighbor. You've demonstrated a compassionate understanding of the difficulties raising transgender children and some of the gut wrenching decisions involved. I agree with many of your points but my own exposure to this whole thing leads me firmly to believe that very young children suffering from Gender Dysphoria are very much who they say they are and are as sure of themselves as non-transgender children. In many of these cases, their own self-awareness often exceeds that of children much older than themselves and even that of some adults that I've known.

Where I don't necessarily totally agree, and it is primarily a social and political issue that varies by geographic location, is in your added comments about discussing this issue in elementary school. With increased awareness and understanding of this issue and relaxing social taboos, chances are your kids will encounter transgender classmates so their understanding of what being transgender means is important. Certainly by junior high or in any health education class where sex or sexuality is discussed, "transgender" should be a part of that curriculum. Seeing as even mentioning homosexuality in some parts of the country is cause for a lynching , I don't anticipate this is going to be nationwide anytime soon.

I started a thread a few months ago about a transgender girl in Wisconsin and the school wanted to read the book I Am Jazz to the students to help her assimilate. A note was sent home to parents of the intent and the ability to opt out and the recognized hate group, Liberty Counsel got involved and raised a ruckus. The town rallied behind this girl, the school board issued an inclusive and affirming policy and my post brought out the haters and bigots here on ATS so there's still a long way to go.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 11:40 PM
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originally posted by: Jason88
As a dad to 4 kids under 10-years-old, I feel terrible for children afflicted with a gender identity crisis. Their lives are pure hell even with a supportive home and family.

I used to believe it was a choice for kids but I witnessed it first hand with a neighbor — a young teen going thru gender reassignment therapy and later surgery - there was no 'choice' her life was full of fear and depression before and sadly after. No one picks this path, why would they? It's a social death sentence.

As for the age of the child in this case - 4 - I'm not sure how I feel honestly. It seems too young for reasons already listed by member SeaWorthy (page 1, bottom). As a dad my gut tells if it were my family I'd compassionatly hold out until puberty, then reassess the condition with the child and experts.

If it got dangerous for the child (bullying, et al) I'd opt for home schooling. Again nobody chooses this condition, it's medical both mentally and physically.

We all need compassion, and to teach to our kids it too. And think about the parents -at least in the US in all states they'll be marked as outcasts as well.

ETA : To the the direct point of the OP and as for the American College of Pediatricians- whatever they're fiction spouting people. But, I don't think transgenderism should be taught to elementary school aged children unless a student in their grade is experiencing it. Otherwise it'll just unnecessarily add to the confusion of identity.


Well written but I disagree.

It appears Transgenderism is a problem in the US ONLY. The only time I hear about Transgenderism is in the US ONLY. Why is that? Why is the US the ONLY country who is experiencing a Transgenderism problem that appears to be affecting the entire nation?

I travel all over Europe and here .... we have two bathrooms.....one for males and one for females...... we do not have a third bathroom nor is there any debate in the schools or any Transgenderism issues.

Being bullied in school is accepted behavior otherwise it would be stopped. I was bullied at school and not once did I have an issue with my sex or with any transgenderism, I was simply beat up by bullies from time to time. School is cruel and children look for role models in school. Most children want to be noticed and accepted and the pressure in school can drive a weak minded person mad but most important children can be influenced and manipulated. Homosexuality is the issue which is being covered up with the new word for the 21st century .......... Transgenderism.




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posted on Mar, 23 2016 @ 12:26 AM
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originally posted by: DeathSlayer
It appears Transgenderism is a problem in the US ONLY. The only time I hear about Transgenderism is in the US ONLY. Why is that? Why is the US the ONLY country who is experiencing a Transgenderism problem that appears to be affecting the entire nation?

I travel all over Europe and here .... we have two bathrooms.....one for males and one for females...... we do not have a third bathroom nor is there any debate in the schools or any Transgenderism issues.

What?


Surely you are just shooting from the hip here demonstrating your own lack of knowledge or experience? The bathroom thing is not an issue in other countries because they aren't as uptight and phobic about sex or sexuality as people in the U.S. are. We lag far behind most of the rest of the world and are still hung up with puritanical backward ideas. There's no debate because being transgender doesn't carry the same stigma in other places as it does here.

From the UK:

Children seeking gender identity advice sees 100% increase, says NHS

Child gender identity referrals show huge rise in six years

Australia:

Referrals soar at Australia's clinic for transgender youth as support programs get fresh funding

Surge in demand sees one year waits for children's transgender clinic

Shall I go on? Why is this an issue here?

7 Countries Giving Transgender People Fundamental Rights the U.S. Still Won't


Being bullied in school is accepted behavior otherwise it would be stopped. I was bullied at school and not once did I have an issue with my sex or with any transgenderism, I was simply beat up by bullies from time to time.

Are you gay or transgender? Gee, wonder why that was never a problem for you? Are you an advocate of bullyism because it toughens kids up and makes them strong? Remarkable!


Homosexuality is the issue which is being covered up with the new word for the 21st century .......... Transgenderism.

Oh brother! I'll just bite my tongue and let your brilliance shine through. Keep calm and carry on.

Cheers!



posted on Mar, 23 2016 @ 01:04 AM
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originally posted by: Freija

originally posted by: DeathSlayer
It appears Transgenderism is a problem in the US ONLY. The only time I hear about Transgenderism is in the US ONLY. Why is that? Why is the US the ONLY country who is experiencing a Transgenderism problem that appears to be affecting the entire nation?

I travel all over Europe and here .... we have two bathrooms.....one for males and one for females...... we do not have a third bathroom nor is there any debate in the schools or any Transgenderism issues.

What?


Surely you are just shooting from the hip here demonstrating your own lack of knowledge or experience? The bathroom thing is not an issue in other countries because they aren't as uptight and phobic about sex or sexuality as people in the U.S. are. We lag far behind most of the rest of the world and are still hung up with puritanical backward ideas. There's no debate because being transgender doesn't carry the same stigma in other places as it does here.

From the UK:

Children seeking gender identity advice sees 100% increase, says NHS

Child gender identity referrals show huge rise in six years

Australia:

Referrals soar at Australia's clinic for transgender youth as support programs get fresh funding

Surge in demand sees one year waits for children's transgender clinic

Shall I go on? Why is this an issue here?

7 Countries Giving Transgender People Fundamental Rights the U.S. Still Won't


Being bullied in school is accepted behavior otherwise it would be stopped. I was bullied at school and not once did I have an issue with my sex or with any transgenderism, I was simply beat up by bullies from time to time.

Are you gay or transgender? Gee, wonder why that was never a problem for you? Are you an advocate of bullyism because it toughens kids up and makes them strong? Remarkable!


Homosexuality is the issue which is being covered up with the new word for the 21st century .......... Transgenderism.

Oh brother! I'll just bite my tongue and let your brilliance shine through. Keep calm and carry on.

Cheers!


Transgenderism is being homosexual, you do understand this?

STRANGE you did not mention my last and most important part of my post:

School is cruel and children look for role models in school. Most children want to be noticed and accepted and the pressure in school can drive a weak minded person mad but most important ............. children can be influenced and manipulated.

Homosexuality is the issue which is being covered up with the new word for the 21st century .......... Transgenderism.

Transgenderism = homosexual and nothing else.


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posted on Mar, 23 2016 @ 02:04 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer Ya know... let's just beat the # outta the homos, faggots and everyone who is different. They lose. We win. America is safe. Amen.

A reply to: Freija Freija, I appreciate your information and helpfulness to educate - shining light on a taboo & difficult topic is important albeit unpopular. Sadly, unlike homosexuality I believe transgenderism will remain the more problematic to educate on. It simply crosses too many cultural norms to gain an understanding among the masses. Especially in this political climate.

My family and I will continue to be understanding and sympathetic to those with gender dysphoria since the mark of strength is standing up for the weakest and most afraid in society. And please count me as an ally.
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posted on Mar, 23 2016 @ 02:29 AM
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originally posted by: Jason88
a reply to: DeathSlayer Ya know... let's just beat the # outta the homos, faggots and everyone who is different. They lose. We win. America is safe. Amen.

A reply to: Freija Freija, I appreciate your information and helpfulness to educate - shining light on a taboo & difficult topic is important albeit unpopular. Sadly, unlike homosexuality I believe transgenderism will remain the more problematic to educate on. It simply crosses too many cultural norms to gain an understanding among the masses. Especially in this political climate.

My family and I will continue to be understanding and sympathetic to those with gender dysphoria since the mark of strength is standing up for the weakest and most afraid in society. And please count me as an ally.


As usual a liberal takes my comments out of context. No reason to discuss this with you.

Your problem is simple you want to paint the same face over one that is already painted and there is no reason to re paint it. How many more names can we come up with for homosexuals......gay, homo, queer, and now we have transgender for the kids.....

Isn't this cute?



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posted on Mar, 23 2016 @ 02:42 AM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer DeathSlayer, what do you want me to say? We don't agree and I think you're being unfair to folks who are hurting - you're kicking people when they're down. Life sucks for transgender folks, why make it harder?

And I'm not a liberal either.

The bullying comments you made - that's not cool. Unlike when we were little that #### follows kids home now with social media - they can't escape it. It really is worse today... everything on video, fake Facebook profiles set up to mess with kids, teachers maxed out, on & on. It's bad now.

Kids are impressionable, you're right. But ain't nobody choosing to be transgender on purpose. It's deadly.

Have a heart. It sounds like you didn't get a raw deal in life, support some folks who did by being a positive force.

And to prevent thread drift, I'm still not sure that teaching pre-teens about transgenderism is right, but certainly it should be taught in sex education at later years. But my mind is open if I think it will help my kids, other kids, and prevent a needless suicide while making society more inclusive - why not?
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posted on Mar, 23 2016 @ 08:04 AM
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originally posted by: Freija
Thank you, jacygirl, and for your willingness to engage in this conversation.




Freija, thank you for the warm welcome.


I do not have personal experience with transgender people, but have had many gay/lesbian friends through the years. I am one of those people who does not need to have 'had' an experience to at least imagine how it would feel.

One of my daughter's is currently working in sales (high end cosmetics/fragrances) and recently encountered her first male(dressed as female) customer. I had brought up that exact hypothetical scenario with her previously, so that she could be prepared...and not instantly react in a shocked/negative way.
She was kind and friendly...spent much time with the customer, and offered to show him/her some application and cover-up techniques...all of which was gratefully received.

It costs nothing to be kind.
jacy

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posted on Mar, 23 2016 @ 09:15 AM
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Thank you for being level headed in this discussion.

Let me clarify a few things. I am on a cell right now so forgive the typos and I limited links.

First off you need to look very carefully at research now a days. There are several articles in science journals that have explained the majority of studies published have serious problems even under peer review. Many eventually get retested and are found to be false which is good at least science rights itself.

My wife is a university research professor. Not in a related field but we have many friends who are including Dean's of sociology (she has worked at several universities). This is a well vetted arguement on my part. Not to say the professor's have my point of view but I am well aware of the research. Not to mention my own research having to mediate transgender wrestlers with the usa wrestling guidelines.

Hormone blockers are not known to be effective in the sense that it's unknown if puberty would have led to a return to the birth sex/ gender.

The endocrinology board has said 70-85 percent of children who exibit gender disphoria will return to their birth sex. The kicker is that it's not until puberty that you can actually know this or not. They do recommend hormone blockers to the very small population that can be found to have gender dysphoria during puberty so they aren't a conservative hate group like the OP.

The problem is psychology has a very questionable track record of diagnosis. They are responsible for thousands of prescription drug deaths every year. It is crucial parents are very cautious about trusting anybody telling you to give your children any type of chemical treatment.

My question to you is if the child would have returned to their birth sex during puberty and the hormone blockers stopped that is living as transgender adult more dangerous to the mental health of someone who isn't truly transgender.

The transgender condition is extremely unumderstood even today. Just because some psychiatrists have expiremented on children with the results they were after is not a carte de Blanche that it's a good method. Take my add medication example. The largest 27 year study from the U of Minnesota showed how dangerous and inneffective the drugs are yet the medication is still given to any kid who can't sit still in math class.

My question to you what will prevent this from happening to children in this case if as you say parents are not supportive.

My answer to your question is I would be very involved with my child's development and would only under very definite diagnosis from several sources ever consider medical intervention in the case of a child in this issue. Most likely I would choose to wait until they are able to make better decisions. You have the whole prefrontal cortex problem on top of everything.

All of these studies you present are very small. You have research numbers like 50 children in the study. If you read closely you see hormone blockers MAY help transgender kids. That is because the research isn't conclusive or extensive enough. There is a concern as well as to what the blockers do for brain development.

What is the suicide rate of transgender adults after transition?

www.medicaldaily.com...
www.pbs.org...
gendertrender.wordpress.com...
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