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American College of Pediatricians Says Teaching Children Transgenderism Is Child Abuse

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posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 12:18 PM
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Lulu, a transgender girl, reads a book in her room at her home in Buenos Aires July 25, 2013. Lulu, a six-year-old Argentine child who was listed as a boy at birth, has been granted new identification papers by the Buenos Aires provincial government listing her as a girl. According to her mother Gabriela, Lulu chose the gender as soon as she first learned to speak. Gabriela said her child, named Manuel at birth, insisted on being called Lulu since she was just four years old, local media reported. Argentina in 2012 put in place liberal rules on changing gender, allowing people to alter their gender on official documents without first having to receive a psychiatric diagnosis or surgery. Picture taken on July 25, 2013.

The American College of Pediatricians warned legislators and educators Monday to reject all policies that condition children to accept transgenderism as normal, adding that attempts to normalize a condition classified as a mental illness is child abuse. "The American College of Pediatricians urges educators and legislators to reject all policies that condition children to accept as normal a life of chemical and surgical impersonation of the opposite sex. Facts — not ideology — determine reality," the organization noted in a statement listing an eight-point explanation of its stance.

The American College of Pediatricians, according to its website, is a national organization of pediatricians and other healthcare professionals dedicated to the health and well-being of children. While everyone is born with a biological sex, gender, explains the organization, is an awareness and sense of oneself as male or female. It is a social and psychological concept. "No one is born with an awareness of themselves as male or female; this awareness develops over time and, like all developmental processes, may be derailed by a child's subjective perceptions, relationships, and adverse experiences from infancy forward. People who identify as 'feeling like the opposite sex' or 'somewhere in between' do not comprise a third sex. They remain biological men or biological women," the organization said.

"When an otherwise healthy biological boy believes he is a girl, or an otherwise healthy biological girl believes she is a boy, an objective psychological problem exists that lies in the mind not the body, and it should be treated as such. These children suffer from gender dysphoria. Gender dysphoria, formerly listed as gender identity disorder, is a recognized mental disorder in the most recent edition of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of the American Psychiatric Association. The psychodynamic and social learning theories of GD/GID have never been disproved," it further explained.



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The American College of Pediatricians specializes in children care and who should know better than a bunch of men and women educated about children. I do not care who says it is OK but when a child is raised with two mommies or two daddies who live in the same home and have sexual relations between the two confuses children AND exactly who supports this type of family?

Should our education system support transgenderism? The school has removed prayer and all subjects about God and his laws.....Is not this forcing our children to accept this twisted and perverted life style ?

Are transgender laws being pushed down our throats?
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posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 12:23 PM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

I agree that transgenderism should be treated like other special circumstances, and NOT something normal (this might encourage children at their young and impressionable age that transgenderism is something they should consider or start looking into.. which, from where I'm sitting is exactly what we HAVE been seeing from the media) ever since the Caitlin Jenner thing, even before that

I'm with you DeathSlayer. We don't need this being shoved down our (or our childrens') throats any longer!
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posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 12:24 PM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

Should we push an agenda of people that is less than 1% of our population and confuse our children? Considering over 70% of people believe in God and we can't discuss THAT in school I think the cult of transgenderism should also be a no go for school children. Especially the little ones. Life is confusing enough without teaching them that BS.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 12:28 PM
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I think we should stop encouraging the idea until kids are past puberty at least. If they persist in the idea beyond that, then we can start thinking there is something to address. But kids go through all kinds of phases where they think all kinds of things and play all kinds of pretend games.

I went through a phase where I spent a good chunk of my life pretending I was a horse, especially through some tough years when I was bullied. Our son went through a phase pretending to be Iron Man.

Now maybe if these are the tiny, tiny percentage of kids who had anomalous sex characteristics at birth and were arbitrarily assigned a gender ... but those are the extreme minority, even less than the kids who suddenly announce that they're Sally today instead of Bobby.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 12:29 PM
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At four years old this toddler knew it wanted/was supposed to be a girl?
Bull.
A four year old can barely count & spell and you mean to tell me that it knew that it was supposed to be a girl?
A child of that age does not understand things like that.
That is why young children shouldn't be taught about it. Is it abuse?? Probably not. It is very confusing though.
Why can't we let kids be kids for a little while?



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 12:34 PM
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Should we push an agenda of people that is less than 1% of our population and confuse our children?


It's not an agenda belonging to people who change their gender, it's far more sinister.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 12:37 PM
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originally posted by: DeathSlayer
Are transgender laws being pushed down our throats?


Not really "laws," but acceptance is being shoved in our face in a bullying way, for sure.

I certainly see transgenderism as something that is a wiring issue in the brain--but that said, that doesn't mean I'm intolerant of it or shun people because of it.

But when it comes to our children, I don't even think that it needs mentioned unless they are in a situation (like in a class) where there is a transgender child. At that point, I think that it needs mentioned, but forcing the "normalcy" of it is going way too far. Yes, teach them not to bully or abuse the child because of it, and explain that, in some people, the mind just "knows" it's one sex, but the body is another. Then, if they want to, they can maybe show other abnormalities people are born with, like being born without a hand, or with six toes, or whatever. In doing so, it will note that it is not normal, but maybe it's a natural thing that shouldn't be used as a way to tear that child down.

Just my thoughts on it. I'm sure I'll get some hate for calling the issue an abnormality, but strictly speaking, it is abnormal, and there are better ways to bring it up to young children without forcing acceptance on them. At some point our education system when from teaching so people can make up their own minds about the world to trying to tell them how to think.

I'm pretty sure it started happening right around 1980.

The Department of Education was established in Fall of 1979.

Coincidence?



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 12:40 PM
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I would like to know the number of young people that were prodded into accepting the transgender label while going through a confusing time in their lives, and later regretted it or suffered damaging fall-out because of it. Tweens/teens are susceptible to many influences going through puberty and beyond, and some no doubt venture into transgenderism as an answer to a confusion question they posed.

I'm not advocating stifling information, but some professionals are too quick to classify an individual and steer them to answers of a wrong question.


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posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 12:58 PM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

There is a difference between teaching children how to be civilized and accept different kinds of people vs teaching that transgenderism is a normal and legitimate thing that must be accepted. I just hate how society labels things like transgenderism in such a black and white way. We are supposed to think that because a boy "feels" like a girl, that boy IS a girl. Why can't we call it what it is, which is a boy who feels like a girl but is in fact a boy. I would want my hypothetical child to be kind to boys who dress and act like girls but I would not want my child to believe that the boy is a girl. I think that transgendered people should be treated with respect but I don't believe one can change one's sex. Even after sexual reassignment surgery, I believe a man is still a man, but with mutilated private parts. I get slightly annoyed when I hear about "the pregnant man". Men do not have uteruses. Although, if they did, as Tina Belcher says, they would be called "duderuses".

I am not for or against transgenderism, but I agree that it shouldn't be pushed on us so strongly.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 01:06 PM
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Thank you for bringing this important discussion to the board. Whenever we see lies and propaganda, it is always a good idea to examine it, look it over and try to avoid being manipulated by it because we're the cool and smart kids on ATS that deny ignorance and all that, right?

If you'd like to discuss science and medicine and the facts about transgender and gender expansive youth, their problems, needs and their families and are interested in actually learning about this, I can help with your understanding.

First of all, let's put this messy "America College of Pediatricians" thing to bed. Now of course, some may wish to cling to this as gospel because it fits into what they're thinking under their political or religious leanings but let me tell you that regardless of your stance, everyone should stand up to hate, ignorance, intolerance and bigotry and condemn those that use their name, affiliation or position to spread it.

Johns Hopkins Professor Endangers the Lives of Transgender Youth


Once again, Paul McHugh has used the ever more tarnished name of Johns Hopkins to distort science and spread transphobic misinformation. This time, it comes via a position statement from the American College of Pediatricians (ACP) a tiny offshoot of a real professional organization, the American Academy of Pediatrics. The ACP is a group of less than 200 ultra-conservative, mostly Catholic, people (most of whom aren’t even pediatricians) who oppose letting gay people be parents, the HPV vaccine, marriage equality, birth control and medical care for transgender people. They are in favor of reparative therapy and abstinence-only education, though.

The ACP is designated a hate group by the Southern Poverty Law Center, along with organizations such as the Klan and Aryan Brotherhood. This would be nothing but an ineffectual fringe organization, if not for McHugh and the fact that the administration at John’s Hopkins refuses to disavow him and his positions, despite his legal troubles and close association with numerous hate groups. This position statement is already making the rounds with SPLC designated hate groups, and on widely read right wing news sites accusing parents who affirm their children’s identity of “child abuse.”


So, anyone interested in knowing what is really being said by every major health organization in the world and the most current research in this area or what life is like for these kids and their families, I will share my knowledge in this subject so open minds might learn.

My last comment in this post is to purpose a question to parents, what would you do if your child was transgender?



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 01:18 PM
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a reply to: Freija

I am not religious but I would wait until the child has gone through puberty. It is a form of child abuse to transition children. Allowing them to identify is one thing. Messing with hormones before the hormones have gone through puberty should be against the law. Transition should be an 18 + deal. It's just going to be another money making medical deal.

Hell we give kids speed even though they get addicted to it and it only works for a couple years at best before the tolerance to the drugs get too high.

Leave kids alone let them be kids they may expirement with sexuality or gender but that doesn't mean pumping them full of drugs and plastic surgery is good. If they still want it after puberty they can make the decision as an adult.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 01:21 PM
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a reply to: DeathSlayer

Consider the source -- who is the "American College of Pediatricians"? As described by one of their founders, Joe Zanga:

a group "with Judeo-Christian, traditional values that is open to pediatric medical professionals of all religions who hold true to the group's core beliefs: that life begins at conception; and that the traditional family unit, headed by a different-sex couple, poses far fewer risk factors in the adoption and raising of children."

Want real advice on a subject relating to pediatrics? Try the American Academy of Pediatrics. ACPeds is a conservative hate group. AAP is an actual professional association for pediatricians.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 01:50 PM
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The American College of Pediatricians is a sham group camouflaging religious right distortions. The national organization for pediatricians is the American Academy of Pediatricians which has been in existence since 1930. The "college"
' is a bunch of right wing nutjobs who set up a webpage to try to add a veneer of respectibility to their bigotry and was set up in 2002. The real organization offers continuing education programs. The sham wingnut group offers none and exists solely to attack gays and lesbians. It brings to mind Rand Paul's attempt to gain Board ceertification by setting up his own "oard" and then certifying himself. It is very easy to scam people who suffer from incurable confirmation bias.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 02:05 PM
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The Paul situation is not even remotely similar. He was using a libertarian right to work approach because the younger drs were having to take tests the older drs didn't and were not required to to keep their certification.

It's also a state you didn't need board certification in until the proposed board in question.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 02:30 PM
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originally posted by: ketsuko
Now maybe if these are the tiny, tiny percentage of kids who had anomalous sex characteristics at birth and were arbitrarily assigned a gender ... but those are the extreme minority, even less than the kids who suddenly announce that they're Sally today instead of Bobby.

In approximately 1 in 1500 to 2000 births, a specialists in sex differentiation is called in to determine the sex of a child. This is far more common than anyone realizes. How common is intersex?


originally posted by: Boscowashisnamo
I would like to know the number of young people that were prodded into accepting the transgender label while going through a confusing time in their lives, and later regretted it or suffered damaging fall-out because of it. Tweens/teens are susceptible to many influences going through puberty and beyond, and some no doubt venture into transgenderism as an answer to a confusion question they posed.

NOBODY prods a child into being transgender. If you are a guy, how much prodding do you think your parents would have had to have done to convince you that you weren't? Having a transgender child is a parent's nightmare. Parental rejection and failure to acknowledge and accept their transgender children has proven to be absolutely the most damaging possibility of all for these kids.


originally posted by: SlapMonkey
Just my thoughts on it. I'm sure I'll get some hate for calling the issue an abnormality, but strictly speaking, it is abnormal, and there are better ways to bring it up to young children without forcing acceptance on them. At some point our education system when from teaching so people can make up their own minds about the world to trying to tell them how to think.

I'm pretty sure it started happening right around 1980.

The Department of Education was established in Fall of 1979.

Coincidence?

Thank you for your comments and I agree with some of what you have said. Abnormal? How about saying unusual and rare instead? When we talk about forced acceptance, maybe you're not old enough to remember desegregating schools and bussing and life before 1964? Society is not stagnant. It changes and evolves and sometimes things do need to be forced. Hell no! We won't let these little colored children go to school with our white sons and daughters seems like somewhat of an antiquated concept.

More to come...



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posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 02:36 PM
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The American College of Pediatricians specializes in children care and who should know better than a bunch of men and women educated about children.


No, the American College of Pediatricians is a biased political organisation.


When the American Academy of Pediatrics passed its policy statement supporting second-parent adoptions by lesbian and gay parents in 2002, a fringe group of approximately 60 of the AAP’s more than 60,000 members formed the “American College of Pediatricians.”1 This group has been described by one of its charter members as a “Judeo-Christian, traditional-values organization,” that is open to pediatric medical professionals of all religions “who hold to [the ACP’s] core beliefs,” which are that “life begins at conception, and that the traditional family unit, headed by an opposite-sex couple, poses far fewer risk factors in the adoption and raising of children.”

www.aclu.org...


Are transgender laws being pushed down our throats?


It's not. People just wish to be treated equally under the law like you and me. Why do you oppose this?



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 03:00 PM
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I can agree with some of what you say. I just wish it wasn't always the opposite overreaction with everything.

Example.

I have a friend who is a diversity officer at the university (he is gay).

He has transgender lawsuits almost every week.

The last couple are a student who sued the school so he could be legally referred to as they.

Another situation was a transgender female in transition (still sex of male) went to a leadership summit. Wanted to room with a girl. Couldn't sued the school got her own room, sued the school because she wanted to be roomed with a girl, again they make an acception say as long as the roomate knows it OK, she gets a roomate Sue's the school for having to tell the roomate she was transgender.

I could give you a story a week like these.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 03:42 PM
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My last comment in this post is to purpose a question to parents, what would you do if your child was transgender?


I think a better question is how would you know if in fact they were? Especially speaking of a toddler? This is the age where a bunny may be real and talk with a child. Invisible friend days and wanting to be more like big bro or sister or Uncle or a friend or friend of the family.

Maybe Mom is mean and Dad nice so they want to be like Dad?

What about the many cases of memory from past lives? it has been reported with facts to back it and sometimes a young child still identifies with the past life sex until they are older and forget.

That is a lot to sift out at a young age.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 04:51 PM
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I've bookmarked a couple of articles I would encourage anyone genuinely interested in this read and review:

Difficult Conversations
What Alarmist Articles About Transgender Children Get Wrong
The End of the Desistance Myth

Now to address too young to know or wait until after puberty crowd...

Our gender identity (everyone has one) is one of the if not the primary foundations of personality and influences how we interact with the world around us and our expression of our gender affects how we are perceived. Any child development book will tell you children become aware of gender differences around two or three and their own sense of being a boy or a girl is usually solidified and is able to be verbalized by four or five. Didn't you know by then? Gender, in the pre-pubescent child has absolutely nothing to do with sexuality or sexual orientation and is most resistant to being changed.

For those rare very young children that are afflicted with and diagnosed by professionals as having Gender Dysphoria, nothing beyond socially transitioning to live and present as the gender different from the sex assigned at birth happens. No surgery - no drugs. To address SeaWorthy's question of how a parent would know if a child is transgender or merely gender non-conforming/expansive is a difficult question without absolute answers. What the medical professional looks for when making this diagnosis is insistence, persistence and consistent expression from the child that they are not who their anatomy says they should be. Some of this is addressed in the "Difficult Questions" article linked above.

The next most common time for children to express cross gender feelings is approaching puberty when the dread of developing secondary sex characteristics consistent with their assigned sex looms. This is something well beyond the normal tween/teen angst and the discomfort with your body that most everyone experiences at some time or another. This group is at the most extreme high risk of crushing depression and anxiety, social withdrawal, anger and suicide ideation or attempts. Eating disorders, self-harm such as cutting and substance abuse are common co-conditions in gender dysphoric youth. Lack of parental understanding, rejection, abandonment or failure to get help turns the lives of these kids into a suffocating nightmare, usually with catastrophic results and tragedy.

What to do? You can't beat this out of a child or pray it away which wouldn't be any more successful than trying to convince a "normal" little boy or girl they were the opposite gender. People in general are pretty resistant to being told they are not who they know themselves to be and this applies equally to children.

Take the example of a transgender highly gender dysphoric male-bodied child that socially transitioned between five and eight years of age and look at what living hell would be wrought upon their lives by going through male puberty. If you were a parent, wouldn't you want to spare your child what to them is a disfiguring misery? Wouldn't you want them to be as normal and as much like other kids as possible considering their condition? Granted, this is a very difficult situation for all involved but can't go without being addressed.

Please continue to raise your questions, concerns and thoughts and I will try to respond to them to the best of my ability. These things do need to be discussed because out of ignorance comes fear and misunderstanding and the fact is that transgender children do exist. We have a responsibility to put our own issues aside and do what is best for them.



posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 05:02 PM
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What do you do? You love your child and support them. If by the time they are an adult and still feel gender identity issues than they could transition though that doesn't seem to effect the depression or suicide rates all that much.

They definitely do not only block hormones until the children are old enough but will actually start sex changes earlier than post puberty. I have a serious problem with that. Especially as kids do often revert to their sex.

Psychology is practically pseudoscience God only knows how many times they have killed people with medication orade things worse. The hive kids aderol for God's sake. That permanently alters their brain negatively even when they stop taking the drugs and they don't work over time.

I think it's best to use caution anytime you are altering your mind or body. It should be for only the most extreme cases. That isn't the trend in psychology.
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