Brussels Airport Explosions

a reply to: Jakal26

Yes, very nasty. That is the point though isn't it? We are so terrified of going down the road that must be travelled that we are somehow prepared to take anything to avoid that first step.

It is extremely sad that we are to live in these times. However, I would do anything I could to prevent our children from having to live with the mess we are creating, and I think that the only way to assure that is to accept the reality.

Accept there is a war of ideologies here, and that they can not mutually live in harmony.

a reply to: Jonjonj

As I said from my initial response to you, I agree..completely.

I am sad, and sickened by the fact that this is the truth of this world.

....and people wonder why I'm depressed. Go figure.

I honestly dont understand how leaders and citizens of Europe didnt see the dangers of allowing hundreds of thousands of muslims into Europe completely unabated without security checks from countries where terrorists were trying to create a caliphate and had threatened to flood Europe with refugees with jihadists hidden amongst them.

Didnt anyone find it odd that although there had been civil war in Syria for years suddenly hundreds of thousands from an whole range of countries decided to start coming to Europe 12 months ago in the numbers we have seen.

Many also havent been Syrian but are from Afghanistan and African Countries where other terror groups are operating who are affiliated with ISIS.

The Paris attackers said they smuggled themselves through Greece with 90 other jihadists hidden amongst refugees. That is just one cell though how many others have come through Greece?

High time we start supporting people like Trump or atleast some one who has the balls to call the spade by its name.

originally posted by: Jonjonj
a reply to: Jakal26

Yes, very nasty. That is the point though isn't it? We are so terrified of going down the road that must be travelled that we are somehow prepared to take anything to avoid that first step.

It is extremely sad that we are to live in these times. However, I would do anything I could to prevent our children from having to live with the mess we are creating, and I think that the only way to assure that is to accept the reality.

Accept there is a war of ideologies here, and that they can not mutually live in harmony.

The thing is though that there is only a war of ideologies because that is the world view adopted post fall of Iron Curtain, based on Huntingdon's "Clash of the Civilizations". It is a self fulfilling prophecy - and it seems we have swallowed it hook, line and sinker........

a reply to: anxiouswens

Terrorists like to kill. They also like to slip unnoticed into countries. As there is currently a major refugee crisis, they are obviously taking advantage. Do we blame the refugees for that? Of course not, it is down to the terrorists.

a reply to: Jakal26

I am talking about in the context of fixing this.. So bombing a sand dune isn't going to fix this we have to root them out, jackal you are misinterpreting what I am saying.

a reply to: anxiouswens

Blame the Socialist leaders of these European nations...simply put, THEY are the people responsible for facilitating the entry of terrorists into their countries, as well as giving them the free reign (via Political Correctness) to kill their citizens 'en mass'.

originally posted by: HoldMyBeer

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: HoldMyBeer

She's just trying to get to the bottom of reports like any good investigator. instead of pissing in her cheerios, maybe you should help.

(FFS)

People can read the first few pages and decide for themselves. I'm not pissing in anyone's cheerios, I'm calling it like I see it. There is a difference between assessing unfolding events and gate-keeping your agenda.

No, you ridiculed her "FFS" style to discredit her digging into reports early on. The early repots "on the first few pages" are the least trustworthy, revealing the real agenda, including those who discredit any deeper search for truth later on, like you.

These bombs are set by those that want a wider 'war on terror' in the Middle East. You notice they attack people, ordinary citizens, not those in charge of the war making.

originally posted by: TechniXcality
Disclaimer I am atheist

Islamic terror reigning destruction and on the war path across this world and liberals have the #ing gull to say," how about those extreme Christians" people #ing died today and are dying daily because of Islamic terror, stop the bull#.

we can no long fight a defensive or reactive war against Islamic terror, we have to start going into the community's and hunt these #ers down and those who support them, I don't care if it looks like door to door raids it's time to take the fight to them and get them the # out of the west!

But isn't that what they want and we would be playing into their hands? lol.

wtf?!

the dems, progs and obama had spewed that line for a few months.

I'm with you on what to do. Clean em out for a few generations.

a reply to: Flavian

I am unsure of the actual, true origin of this. That is not even the point anymore though. The point is it is a reality, and we are not doing what we need to to protect what we consider to be our way of life.

We need to start to do that, and I suppose when all the bombs and bullets and death has stopped, then we can look at who exactly to blame.

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: anxiouswens

Blame the Socialist leaders of these European nations...simply put, THEY are the people responsible for facilitating the entry of terrorists into their countries, as well as giving them the free reign (via Political Correctness) to kill their citizens 'en mass'.

Complete and utter tosh. We have the world's biggest refugee crisis post World War 2 right on the doorstep of Europe - of course they are letting people come here. To go from that to saying it is their fault terrorists are killing people is completely disingenuous and, frankly, downright misleading.

The only people responsible are those doing the killing.

a reply to: TechniXcality

We need to start terrorizing the terrorists.

We need to be so damned scary that they will be afraid to attack us.

We need to become very ugly if we're to ever win this fight.

a reply to: Jakal26

It could easily spiral out of control and then the "cleansing" begins....see where I'm going with that?

That is my concern as well-someone could retaliate and kill innocent civilians. I was wrong-the borders should be closed to all but mothers with children, the sick or the elderly. That is the prerogative of most nations and if these young men are so desperate to find a place to live then there are many uninhabited islands that can sustain a population if they can live without amenities-which is not easy.

originally posted by: Flavian

originally posted by: IAMTAT
a reply to: anxiouswens

Blame the Socialist leaders of these European nations...simply put, THEY are the people responsible for facilitating the entry of terrorists into their countries, as well as giving them the free reign (via Political Correctness) to kill their citizens 'en mass'.

Complete and utter tosh. We have the world's biggest refugee crisis post World War 2 right on the doorstep of Europe - of course they are letting people come here. To go from that to saying it is their fault terrorists are killing people is completely disingenuous and, frankly, downright misleading.

The only people responsible are those doing the killing.

Balderdash and Poppycock...AND Tommy-rot!

Some twitter pic's

originally posted by: intrptr

originally posted by: HoldMyBeer

originally posted by: intrptr
a reply to: HoldMyBeer

She's just trying to get to the bottom of reports like any good investigator. instead of pissing in her cheerios, maybe you should help.

(FFS)

People can read the first few pages and decide for themselves. I'm not pissing in anyone's cheerios, I'm calling it like I see it. There is a difference between assessing unfolding events and gate-keeping your agenda.

No, you ridiculed here "FFS" style to discredit her digging into reports early on. The early repots "on the first few pages" are the least trustworthy, revealing the real agenda, including those who discredit any deeper search for truth later on, like you.

What's wrong with "FFS"? Are you for real? As for "digging into reports early on". There is nothing wrong with that - as long as one doesn't dismiss the OBVIOUS due to an agenda. BTW, the reports of the first few pages still stand as accurate, despite all of the overly PC declarations to hold off on calling it what it was - radical Islamic terrorism.

a reply to: Jakal26

It's very easy - if we have strong leadership that works for us than it's very easy achievable.

Think about any business that is successful - they are because they have a good understanding and STRONG leadership that has no problem with taking action.

Cut the PC crap - this is exactly what has brought is into this situation.

When you find a valid way to find out who is who, and who is going to KILL you, share.

There wouldn't be a war if someone didn't start pushing first.

originally posted by: Jonjonj
a reply to: Flavian

I am unsure of the actual, true origin of this. That is not even the point anymore though. The point is it is a reality, and we are not doing what we need to to protect what we consider to be our way of life.

We need to start to do that, and I suppose when all the bombs and bullets and death has stopped, then we can look at who exactly to blame.

Clash of the Civilizations is the starting point. The point being that post Communism it was decided that a new "enemy" was needed to focus Western minds and subsequent policies have reinforced this view. Why does this concern us now? Well, quite simply, because we have now all been conditioned to think that Muslims are bad. The reality though is much simpler - bad guys are bad but most people are neither good nor bad, regardless of race, religion, etc, etc. Most people just want to get on with their lives....