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Originally posted by brooklyntonyp
The key is .. If your the messiah, I'm sure you'd be proven so without having to shout it to the world.. remember "like a thief in the night" so anyone claiming to be the Messiah would be false.. Get it
Locating the Real Jesus During the Tribulation
In contrast to the false propaganda of the last days, in Matthew 24:27,28 Jesus unveils the true method for locating him in the day of his presence. To do so he uses a parable from nature and a proverb from life:
For as the lightning comes from the east and shines as far as the west, so will be the coming of the Son of man. Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together ...
Lightning flashes in the east, but the effect of it is seen all over the sky. Yet the flash itself does not involve the whole inverted dome of the heavens from east to west. When he uses the symbol of lightning, therefore, he is not describing a universally visible manifestation of his glory, but the universal effect of his presence behind the scenes. Like lightning flashes he will be seen by his own in different places, at all different times, but the effect of those appearances will be felt throughout the earth.
Furthermore, lightning is sovereign, unpredictable, uncontrollable. So will be the presence, the parousia, of the Son of man. He will appear and disappear at will. Whenever there is need for him he will be there, just as he was during the post-resurrection period. There will be no need to search for him for he cannot be found that way. There will be no need to look for him in the wilderness nor in the inner rooms, for he will come whenever and wherever he finds a heart ready to know him. In the passage parallel to this in Luke 17, Jesus says, "For as the lightning flashes and lights up the sky from one side to the other, so will the Son of man be in his day." A "day" used in that sense always refers to a period of time, not a sudden, climactic event.
Why do you believe this?
Originally posted by brooklyntonyp
..I mean two totally contradictory things
1: If the Messiah is who he is he dosent need to convince anyone, and everyone would just know.. I mean if you beleive that
Can you please tell me where you read this? My bible skills are a little rusty. I just remember in the OT the prophecies of a coming messiah, sent to free the Jews.
2: The Messiah will never be seen, and nobody will ever know they met him, but they will have...its all in bible interpritaion you say Tomato I say Son of Tomato
Originally posted by Alec Eiffel
Christians dont know, they have faith. Faith has always eluded me. Assuming there is only one true God...you're right, its like a lottery, for my soul. I might as well just close my eyes and pick. Im just coming to honest conclusions with the best evidence available. I cant understand why I would be deserving of eternal hell-fire.
Originally posted by slacker2788
Disclaimer: I am actually a strong Catholic ...
Maitreya, for example, is actually the Messiah?
Originally posted by gps777
The next guy who proclaims to be God and have all the answer will be the Antichrist.
Most will fall for this deception and receive his mark and worship him then and only then will Christ come again.
Christ has already been born he will come directly from Heaven and ALL will see him ,when Christ comes again he will be the destroyer and will only save those that he knows.
In other words everyone has had long enough to have made their decision on whether to know and believe him or not.
18 years what do they teach you in Catholic Church,no disrespect meant but i thought this was widely understood and clear in the KJV.
[edit on 12-1-2005 by gps777]