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A simple question for our liberal friends

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posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 09:41 PM
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a reply to: xuenchen

It's only free stuff for tax dodgers.




posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 09:42 PM
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originally posted by: MOMof3
a reply to: xuenchen

It's only free stuff for tax dodgers.


That's all?



There must be more to it?



posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 09:51 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: mOjOm

The party causing the most damage is the ultra Left Wing factions of the Democrat Party.

And they certainly are pressing hard to make the U.S. just like the rest of the ultra Left Wing failures.





I'd say Ultra Right or Left is always going to be trouble actually because the rest of us who haven't been propagandized into a political tool of some kind are all somewhere in the center mostly.

The reason you say it's the Ultra left is because you're on the Center or Right somewhere looking Left to spot your alleged enemies and don't see the radicals standing behind you targeting those like you who are on the left looking Right. Since we're all in the center though all we really see is other people like ourselves looking back at us.

But we both hear lots of angry noise coming from all around us.



posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 09:54 PM
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originally posted by: FullBloodedNative
a reply to: xuenchen

Some of the most conservative states rely most on federal government aid


And mostly in Democrat voting pockets.




posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 09:54 PM
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a reply to: FullBloodedNative

Illegals do collect benefits. It is true they are not entitled to, but they do anyway. Two illegal aliens enter the US, have an anchor baby. They now qualify for any benefit a legal US citizen could get in the same financial position, more than most. It happens every day. And that is just one way it happens. There are many many more.



posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 09:54 PM
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Here's something I found interesting. Funny how he's worshiped by so many Conservatives now that most people don't remember much about him and he's not here to speak for himself.




posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 09:54 PM
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Why do conservatives complain when poor people get free stuff but never say anything when the rich get multi-million tax breaks, get free stuff..etc.



posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 09:56 PM
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originally posted by: FullBloodedNative
Why do conservatives complain when poor people get free stuff but never say anything when the rich get multi-million tax breaks, get free stuff..etc.



I say quite alot about that, just not on threads talking about other things...



posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 10:01 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen


And mostly in Democrat voting pockets.





And you are wrong as usual.



2015’s States Most & Least Dependent on the Federal Government

Red States Are Welfare Queens

The 7 Biggest Deadbeat States Who Mooch Off Taxpayers All Vote Republican

Which States Are Givers and Which Are Takers?




The reddest states on that map at the top—Mississippi, Alabama, Louisiana, New Mexico, Maine—have exceptionally high poverty rates and thus receive disproportionately large shares of federal dollars.



posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 10:09 PM
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a reply to: mOjOm

He even passed gun control legislation when he was Governor of California. That's the problem with idolizing and demonizing people; it ignores reality. Reagan wouldn't even qualify as a "real" conservative in the modern Republican Party.

Edit: Here's another gem from Reagan, this time about Social Security and the national deficit.



originally posted by: FullBloodedNative
Why do conservatives complain when poor people get free stuff but never say anything when the rich get multi-million tax breaks, get free stuff..etc.


Because many of them believe they're just a few steps away from being in that social bracket. So why would they attack perks they hope to exploit one day? (This is especially true in some parts of the South. Look up the lifestyles of the social elites in the "antebellum" period, and their modern equivalents like the aristocratic "debutantes" & their festivals.)
edit on 19-3-2016 by enlightenedservant because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 10:12 PM
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The recipients are mostly in Democrat voting areas.

And of course "Red" States are more than happy to pay benefits.

It's the American thing to do.



posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 10:17 PM
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posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 10:19 PM
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originally posted by: xuenchen
a reply to: FullBloodedNative



The recipients are mostly in Democrat voting areas.

And of course "Red" States are more than happy to pay benefits.

It's the American thing to do.


a reply to: xuenchen

Is that so? So you're admitting that paying into social services is the American thing to do? Thanks for endorsing socialism! I knew you were just trolling earlier!




posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 10:19 PM
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Hey maybe somebody should have listened 30 years ago !!!

I bet the resistance was in the Democrat majority House of Representatives Reagan had for 8 years.




posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 10:29 PM
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originally posted by: enlightenedservant

originally posted by: Semicollegiate

originally posted by: Ghost147

originally posted by: TechniXcality
So my question is, why is it that liberals want to make America more like the countries illegal immigrants flee from?


You do realize that a number of very stable, very peaceful, very high-quality of life countries are liberal too, right?

Don't you think that perhaps there's a bit more to it than just being liberal or not?


All of those liberal states live off of massive debt. None of them are solvent.


LOL And what about all of the capitalist-heavy countries like the US and Japan? We're also stuck with massive national & consumer debt. So apparently the economic system isn't what determines this debt; the techniques for governing do.


Massive debt is socialist, it needs exclusively governmentally defined money.

Basically, everything the gov does, aside from military defense towards other govs, is socialist.

You seem to think debt is only bad when socialistic countries do it.

Debt is bad because it leads to rationing, forever.



posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 10:32 PM
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originally posted by: Ghost147

originally posted by: Semicollegiate

originally posted by: Ghost147

originally posted by: TechniXcality
So my question is, why is it that liberals want to make America more like the countries illegal immigrants flee from?


You do realize that a number of very stable, very peaceful, very high-quality of life countries are liberal too, right?

Don't you think that perhaps there's a bit more to it than just being liberal or not?


All of those liberal states live off of massive debt. None of them are solvent.



Yet the most in-debt country in the world is the USA, with external debt

I'm not quite sure what you're argument is?


I'm not sure what your argument is. Debt is OK because the US does it?



posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 10:36 PM
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originally posted by: FullBloodedNative
a reply to: xuenchen



Assuming that folks who illegally entered are law abiding regarding applying for public assistance.

Have you seen the "SSI" card that is red white and blue, plastic and has only a golden SSI number on it?



posted on Mar, 19 2016 @ 10:42 PM
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originally posted by: Vroomfondel
a reply to: FullBloodedNative

Illegals do collect benefits. It is true they are not entitled to, but they do anyway. Two illegal aliens enter the US, have an anchor baby. They now qualify for any benefit a legal US citizen could get in the same financial position, more than most. It happens every day. And that is just one way it happens. There are many many more.


And don't forget the child tax credits paid to illegal immigrants.

They don't even need a SS Number either.

Tax Credits for Illegal Immigrants




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