a reply to: chuckk
I never stated my stance on immigration - and I'm not from Mexico so it is not my country.
Let's not play coy, all the rage nowadays is the "free stuff," argument - yet no point in arguing in comparison to the wall some want for free.
Again - I have not stated my stances on immigration, but let me put it like this; I do not agree with Bernie, and his stances on immigration are not
something I can rationally agree with.
Using your logic, would you then stand in support of a foreign nation building a wall to keep illegal immigrants out if say Americans were the
illegals? I would normally say that my example is fallacious and represents what a loaded question is, but it still stands to reason.
I am absolutely in support of attacking the problems in immigration, but as Dr. Ron Paul always alluded to - it makes it much more difficult when the
U.S. has a high and often unwanted presence in certain ideas that assist in destabilization and in turn exodus - drug cartels and U.S. Government
involvement (Fast & Furious) for one.
I just think it's rather ironic, there are some who dread the meme of "free stuffz generation," yet beat their chests to the tune of a free wall - and
are often quick to respond with "well it's different."
Hardly - looking at the standard of the U.S. dollar compared to the standard of living/overhead costs/etc etc, one has risen exponentially while the
other has declined and stagnated. Although work ethics plays a key role, it is not all about pulling ones-self up by their bootstraps or working hard
- the reality in 2016 America is radically different than say 1976 America.
In my opinion, "free education," > "free wall," and when considering the education one must take it into account;
There are already exist PEL grants and other scholarship/tuition/full-ride programs... primarily sports scholarships. No complaints there about paying
for kids to go to school to throw a ball to get drafted to the Panthers. And at the end of the day, why oppose educating potential generations of
Americans? Why is education being viewed so poorly? Do I truly need to waste my time linking the statistics to show how far behind the U.S. is in
literacy as well as mathematics/sciences? Why is improving this viewed as such a negative burden upon society?
And again - I am in favor of immigration reform, but at the end of the day, leaving young adults who graduate college with absurd amounts of debt that
often range into the tens of thousands of dollars seems rife with corruption and simply wrong in my opinion.
All I'm implying with my OP - let's not play coy, wanting to have a wall built for free (someone else paying for it) is not that much different than
wanting to have college tuition for free (someone else paying for it).
I'm not a Bernie supporter - and I'm not new to the "our government is corrupt," trend that is sweeping the nation, the federal government has done
some diabolical things and I do not see myself living in the U.S. for my entire life. Tell me all the gory details of Fred Hampton, Jekyll Island
1913, or Operation Northwoods/Paperclip - I'm not a fan of my government. But I'm also not a supporter of Trump. Hilary is simply out of the
My point being - both sides want "free stuff," in reality. I'm simply suggesting to pay for your own wall. Personal responsibility, working hard,
doing it yourself, you're entitled to nothing, that kind of stuff.
But I'm not trying to circumvent circular arguments either. I try to see - and laugh - at all sides and the sheer ridiculousness that is portrayed. A
divided nation, we all know how well it's done us this far.