Protestors block major road to Trump rally in Phoenix (Live Feed) and Trump Tower(Live Feed)

The LGBT is next. It is always the same in this order...


Muslims then Illegals then Blacks then LGBT then the elderly and then the collective. Folks, the book has been read and used so many times that Trump is using it against them.

Kind of funny actually.

a reply to: Teddy916

protesting waste..not the programs....

a reply to: neo96

I would have been very happy had that abomination never come into my life. Thanks a lot.

This,"Trump fanboys"

I don't think people get it.

I think Carrot Top could have ran for office and probably get nominated.

It's not really about Trump, its about who he isn't.

He isn't the current establishment.

Over the years, I've seen this government rinse and replace names in office and the results haven't been the same, they have gotten worse.

For those people who want the same ol same ol, your either young, blind or a liar.

How can anyone want more of the same governing?

Things haven't gotten better.

Millions and billions of dollars leave this country to supports other countries.
Wars have been fought that haven't returned anything positive to this country.
We have things in place, such as the patriot act 1 & 2.
Which lays the ground work for abuse of authority.
Someone said they are going to take your bacon, which was funny, but reality is, are they coming? No. Do they have the frame work in place to take anything they want? Yes.

We allow refugees from Syria and illegals from Mexico, but we have no place or money to help out homeless people/vets.
We have a zombie nation when it comes to abandoned homes everywhere.
Crime is on the rise.
More and more companies are moving or closing.
Jobs are few.
And now we get healthcare, the if you don't get or can afford, you are given a fine that is taken from your taxes, cause ya, your poor.

Anyone is better than what we have been given.
Change IS needed, and if that takes the form of a Trump, than so be it.

a reply to: matafuchs

No, I can agree the government is not perfect. However, Neo post makes it seems that government programs like SSI are a waste. Do I agree government programs like these can be more efficient? Of course! But I don't agree with his comment if I think he's these programs are ineffective.

revolution and change only look good in white

originally posted by: Teddy916
a reply to: neo96

How does your foot taste. While I'm not a Trump supporter; I disagree about you're response to the other member's post. Government programs like SSI and medicare have helped a lot of people. If you're protesting in helping your fellow citizens then I feel sorry for you.

IS that so?

With sub par care. Where private health insurance runs circles around it, and between those two Medicare, and medicaid account for over 120 million people. That rakes in over 1 trillion dollars per year. Basically cornering the market.

Even better want to know how medicare is paid for ?

Oh yeah it's automatically deducted from SS checks. Of course that 3.5% people pay in to doesn't cover the benefits received.

The other 3.5% employers are forced to pay ALSO doesn't cover the benefits received. Which is why OTHER people are paying for those 'benefits'.

That is when they are not creating new taxes out of their snips like the MEDICARE capital gains surtax.

Hell there is over 70 million people alone on SS.

Where a person could fund an IRA, or 401k for the same amount of time, and live better than they ever will of that vow of poverty. Called SS.

And instead of paying, and waiting for over 30 years. Be able to get in to should hard times be fall them. Any time they wish.

SS is a blooming joke.

All of the left wings social programs are a joke.

They are designed that way. So they can blackmail voters in to voting for people like Sanders, and Clinton.

originally posted by: Teddy916
a reply to: neo96

How does your foot taste. While I'm not a Trump supporter; I disagree about you're response to the other member's post. Government programs like SSI and medicare have helped a lot of people. If you're protesting in helping your fellow citizens then I feel sorry for you.

SSi was not done out of the goodness of the heart, It was spending taxpayer money to get taxpayer votes so as to increase the power of the State.

“Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain.”
― Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

originally posted by: matafuchs
a reply to: introvert

You said...

I'd rather be inconvenienced by a protester on the street than have my rights taken away

You created left vs right, not me.

How would the right, or in this case Trump., silence you?

I didn't say they would silence me either.

Read it again.

a reply to: neo96

I disagree these programs are jokes. Though I agree with matafuchs that they need to be more efficient so they can better help citizens. Programs for healthcare enabling many people, who for whatever reason, can be able to see a doctor. While I don't know much about private health insurance, I know the majority of Americans wouldn't be able to afford to see a doctor if everything was "privatized".

a reply to: Teddy916

The problem is THIS.

The STATE does not exist to pay for the materialistic WANTS of the masses.

It was NOT created for that purpose.

Health insurance IS a corporate product. Like any other.

The only function of insurance is to pay the hospital bills.


Maybe they could if the STATE hadn't taken 120 million people out of the private sector.

a reply to: Semicollegiate

SSi was not done out of the goodness of the heart, It was spending taxpayer money to get taxpayer votes so as to increase the power of the State.

Oh, really? Do you think if we simply get rid of the "state" then all the problems facing humanity will go away? Of course not! I rather have an government that's efficient, then giving my life away to outside forces who could careless about people.

a reply to: neo96

Neo96 you're living in a fictional world where the "state" i.e. the government is nothing but the bad guy. You have to understand as humans where going to have different societies that have different governments who take control of their respected countries. While I agree that not every government is not perfect, what you're saying is total abolish of state. Correct me if I'm wrong but I just don't see you're point.

originally posted by: Teddy916
a reply to: Semicollegiate

SSi was not done out of the goodness of the heart, It was spending taxpayer money to get taxpayer votes so as to increase the power of the State.

Oh, really? Do you think if we simply get rid of the "state" then all the problems facing humanity will go away? Of course not! I rather have an government that's efficient, then giving my life away to outside forces who could careless about people.

How do you know the State has improved anything, because it told you so in the State school and on the Establishment media?

“If the natural tendencies of mankind are so bad that it is not safe to permit people to be free, how is it that the tendencies of these organizers are always good? Do not the legislators and their appointed agents also belong to the human race? Or do they believe that they themselves are made of a finer clay than the rest of mankind?”
― Frédéric Bastiat, The Law

Using the State is bargaining with your kidnappers.

originally posted by: introvert

originally posted by: Arizonaguy

originally posted by: introvert
a reply to: Arizonaguy

any possible denial of rights that you speak of is done LEGALLY

That makes it better?

The Leftists are making it tough for people to travel freely during their protests. The Right Wingers make you take a case to the supreme court just so you can marry someone of the same sex or make a medical decision without their involvement.

There is an obvious difference, but it's tough to tell if one is better than the other.

So you admit it then? One group uses the law to attempt to remedy things that they disagree with. The other one breaks the law. Just stop, you're digging yourself deeper.

I'd rather be inconvenienced by a protester on the street than have my rights taken away unless I can afford to take it to the highest court in the land.

There's a big difference between the two. Did you happen to miss that?

Yeah, I would rather live in a country where the rule of law is the ultimate authority. Doing things by the law is ALWAYS the appropriate response. Don't like a law or a candidate? Use the courts or your vote to remedy it. That is the way the system is set up, and despite many gripes from all angles, it works pretty well. Are there mistakes? Sure, and Citizens United is one, in my opinion. But it works more often than not.

George Washington knew the importance of the rule of law from the very start of our nation. When the Whiskey Rebellion occurred he took his time taking action. But he realized that the law must be upheld. He eventually took an overwhelming force to the affected areas and ended it without much violence at all. After all was said and done, he pardoned all parties involved that were not aquitted. He knew that while these people had a gripe, the law must stand. Shortly thereafter the whiskey tax was repealed.

a reply to: Domo1

Aw Sorry.

Is this better ?

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
People have a right to protest and people have a right of free movement. Unfortunately the two are not good bed fellows.

Personally, unless the authorities can persuade one or the other to back down, I predict a riot.

Well this isn't "peaceable assemblage" by any stretch. And it has nothing to do with redressing the government.

You have someone like Trump saying crazy, divisive, racist and hateful tings almost every day- sometimes several times a day, then people will attempt to block his path in continuing this. I believe he is dangerous.

Much more dangerous than protesters blocking a road- by now an alternate route has been pointed out by police- who seem to have the situation in hand.

This is just the beginning of protests against this guy.

If i lived in either of those places, I would be there. I do not like Cruz or Rubio, yet I don't feel the need to protest them.

I do not characterize the protesters as 'Domestic Terrorists'. That term is thrown around too much.

a reply to: Teddy916

Neo96 you're living in a fictional world where the "state" i.e. the government is nothing but the bad guy

Sorry.

That is REALITY.

All roads lead to Washington. They are the creators of problems. Every single one.

ANYONE looking to the state to 'fix' all their problems are looking in the WRONG place.

I remember some guy saying a long time ago.

Be the change you wish to see in the world.

a reply to: Semicollegiate

How do you know the State has improved anything, because it told you so in the State school and on the Establishment media?

No, history tells me how states throughout history have either successfully and unsuccessfully took care of their citizens. No form of government is perfect but it's unavoidable because of society. Even you got rid of the state you'll still have not only problems facing humanity, but people conquering Territory for whatever reason (warlords) so I think the state is a good thing for humanity.