It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.


Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.


Iain Duncan Smith resigns!!

page: 8
<< 5  6  7   >>

log in


posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 11:28 AM
It would appear that many have forgotten the horrors of the Poll Tax. This again was an attack on the weakest in society. The Tories appear to hate the poor with a vengeance.

The Poll Tax caused the fall of Margaret Thatcher, it is argued by some. The Tories thought nothing of imprisoning the sick, disabled, desperately poor as they believed in equality: why should the RICH have to pay more than the poor?! Heaven forbid!!

And yet the rich cannot be rich without parasiting, one way or another OFF the poor. And still the Tories just 'don't get it'!

Until it is understood by all and sundry that it doesn't matter who you vote for, they're all different channels on the same TV, the machine will continue to crush and squeeze the poorest and the hard workers and squelch out riches for those operating the controls of the 'machine'.

What is the answer? Don't know and getting too old to care but all I can say is once you see it, ie the machine, you can no longer not see it!

It's all a game. The decisions have already been made and you will be told that YOU decided it.

Therefore...........I'm not playing anymore! Are you?!
edit on 21-3-2016 by Elliot because: grammar

posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 11:43 AM

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978 Duncan Smith has had a change of heart

i smell ulterior motive. it would entail a surgical transplant for IDS and his ilk to have a 'change of heart'.

posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 12:21 PM

originally posted by: crazyewok
Thinking about it there are some common sense savings to be made with disability benifit that dont effect the claimants.

The main one being the mobility part of the DLA and how they aquire the cars.

Someone I know has got a brand knew audi Q3 through DLA.....why?

Not why they have a car, because its vital that they do and a large car like that is needed for there wheelchairs /comfort.

But why is it acquired brand knew from the dealership?

The government could shave £100 a month by leasing cars that are two or three years old. The disabled still get a nice car that suits there needs but you save a bit of money.

That's not really how it works, to get a car they give up the mobility component of the DLA/PIP. For 'nicer' cars they may need to pay a deposit out of their own money. It is up to the supplier of the car to meet the budget so there is not a difference in how much the government pays regardless of how much the car is worth.

The only way going for second hand cars would save (and even here it is doubtful due to other costs that would be involved) is if you reduced the mobility part of the payment for everyone not just those choosing to get a car.

You would therefore be arguing for a cut in disability benefits.

posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 12:38 PM
Stephen Crabb, IDS's replacement has just announced in the Commons that "We will not be going ahead with the changes to PIP".
I don't think for a minute that it is due to any compassion, but I am pleased that those savage cuts do not look like they will be happening for the disabled at least.

posted on Mar, 21 2016 @ 02:54 PM

originally posted by: woodwardjnr
Can't we go after a more vulnerable demographic. I mean the jobless, single mothers and the disabled is so 1980s we need to muster our angst against a new weaker more vulnerable demographic to get stuck into. Once this EU debate is over the claws will start coming out for new scape goats. because we would never have had the economic Collapse of 08 if it hadn't been for those living it up on disability and child benefit.

IDS wanted to go after the oldies. Interviewed by Marr yesterday, he said the Tories were at risk of 'losing the balance of the generations' by cutting working age benefits instead of pensions or universal benefits for wealthy pensioners.

Grannie is next.

originally posted by: Whodathunkdatcheese

No matter. IDS is positioning himself for the post-referendum carnage that will rock the Tories, no matter what the outcome.

He couldn't give a monkey's toss about the disabled and he is doing Osborne a favour. The media, with their insatiable need for fast and shallow news, are paying attention to him and the "civil war" instead of the cuts.

IDS doesn't need made up credentials, he knows exactly what he is doing.

He resigned the day after it was reported he had lost his latest challenge to FOI requests about the impact of Universal Credit.

The DWP say they are carefully considering the Tribunal's decision. A spokesperson said:

"Universal Credit is rolling out successfully and is available in 95% of jobcentres with over 32,000 people making a claim to it last month."

Whether they decide to appeal again remains to be seen. One thing is for certain though, the more IDS fights publication, the more it looks as if he has something to hide.

And at the DWP's current work rate, UC will take 700 years to roll out anyway!

Ian Duncan Smith promised that more than a million people would be signed up to his universal credit scheme by April 2014, with twelve million signed up by 2017.

However, new figures released today reveal the DWP currently have just 17,850 people on their caseload.

This means that at the current rate of progress, it will take them almost 700 more years to meet their original target of twelve million.

I think by that point even Duncan Smith may have to admit that there are problems with the scheme.

originally posted by: RoScoLaz4

i smell ulterior motive. it would entail a surgical transplant for IDS and his ilk to have a 'change of heart'.

And just yesterday, he described the Benefit Cap, aka UC as 'arbitary' and a failure of policy!!! But not a word of apology for the very expensive mess he has presided over with air-punching pride!

posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 09:24 AM
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

posted on Mar, 22 2016 @ 11:20 PM
a reply to: andy06shake

This might seem off topic, it is not, the TORY's can only get away with what they have through a collusion of media and public brainwashing tactic's usually by the orders of some right wing entity.

Channel 4 was supposed to be politically neutral but today we see increasing right wing bias, the BBC itself was supposed to be a public service broadcaster so it too was intended to be politically neutral,
(though it's oversea's broadcasts during the cold war for example served as both a source of outside information to those that tuned into them in those nation's and also political propeganda a tradition stemming back to when it served that same purpose against the NAZI regime of europe - BUT it was never meant to be used as propeganda in our own nation)
, unfortunately as we have seen though there is a definite right wing political bias at work today in the so called PUBLIC broadcaster and the BBC news is no longer politically impartial.

There is a well known TV presenter and comedian called Paul O'Grady and for simply speaking out against Channel 4's program BENEFITS STREET, which is a politically right wing program which shows a supposed snippet of benefit claiments in a supposed fly on the wall show but is actually selective in who it show's and what it show's with a very right wing bias, he has been banned from the show, now get this the ONE show is BBC so why is he banned for speaking his mind about the disgusting tactics of CHANNEL 4 when they are not affiliated, what is at work behind the scene's, do we even have a democracy when our people are being given biased information and false representation such as the likes of the BENEFITS STREET Program from channel 4.

There are people dying from losing there lifeline and YET neither CHANNEL 4 nor the BBC have made any SERIOUS mainstream documentaries about these people to be aired at prime time like BENEFITS STREET has been, there have been a few such as professor green going out to meet the homeless but they tend to be in non prime time slot's and often even after midnight so who is making these call's.

Now that LDS is out and CRABB is in we can expect some side moves by the Tory Party as they try to sneak there next attack on welfare through the side door.

Here is a little about Paul O'Grady's banning

I like this guy, he is down to earth and speak's the truth but that is apparently not what the BBC want's us to hear, he was immensely popular especially with the older generation as well so his show also not being made for another season is probably because he was actually calling the coalition policy's disgusting on are on that going back, of course he see's it as it is, though a millionare himself he cares and began in poverty on the dock road of birkenhead.

edit on 22-3-2016 by LABTECH767 because: (no reason given)

posted on Mar, 23 2016 @ 03:13 AM
a reply to: LABTECH767

I like Paul O'Grady myself, he does a lot for various charity's, the Man essentially has a heart of gold. He certainly seems to have the measure of the BBC/C4/mass media programming. Just goes to show that speaking ones mind can land you in a lot of crap these days.

As to "Benefits Street" and its like, anybody that actually watches these programs and thinks that's how our poor and impoverished get by in life are simply deluded. And the persons featured on said program should be pitted and given the mental health care they so sadly and desperately require.
edit on 23-3-2016 by andy06shake because: (no reason given)

new topics

top topics

<< 5  6  7   >>

log in