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posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 04:37 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: grainofsand

But according to you, it isn't working. You can't have it both ways.

Policy makers have to adapt with lazy bastards...do you assert there are no lazy bastards milking the system in the UK???

*Edit*
I've already said that corporate tax evasion is equally wrong, so pulling that card is a lame deflection at best.
edit on 20.3.2016 by grainofsand because: (no reason given)




posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 04:38 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: nonspecific

I've claimed benefits for about 36 weeks on and off in my life and I've paid over a quarter of a million pounds in income tax.
I'm in credit with the state.


With those kind of stats I would be inclined to keep JSA as an option then.




posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 04:39 PM
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originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: nonspecific

I've claimed benefits for about 36 weeks on and off in my life and I've paid over a quarter of a million pounds in income tax.
I'm in credit with the state.


With those kind of stats I would be inclined to keep JSA as an option then.


Yeah, those who pay # all have it easy lol



posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 04:40 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
I will never let a few loud mouths effect my thinking. To be honest, I don't know a lot of people who are thinking that all of the country's ills are because of single parents and immigrants.

Who has said that in this thread?
I'm not aware of anyone saying that, did you invent it for shock value???


No one has said it on this thread, I am referring to the daily mail readers who are afraid of a few immigrants and other minority groups.

Did you read nonspecific's post?



posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 04:42 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: grainofsand

But according to you, it isn't working. You can't have it both ways.

Policy makers have to adapt with lazy bastards...do you assert there are no lazy bastards milking the system in the UK???


Nope they're at the top and the very bottom, we're just the plebs paying for it all.
edit on 20/3/16 by Cobaltic1978 because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 04:43 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: grainofsand

But according to you, it isn't working. You can't have it both ways.

Policy makers have to adapt with lazy bastards...do you assert there are no lazy bastards milking the system in the UK???


Nope they're at the top and the very bottom, we're just the plebs paying for it all.

Nope, some of us are paying, some are not.



posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 04:44 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
I will never let a few loud mouths effect my thinking. To be honest, I don't know a lot of people who are thinking that all of the country's ills are because of single parents and immigrants.

Who has said that in this thread?
I'm not aware of anyone saying that, did you invent it for shock value???


No one has said it on this thread, I am referring to the daily mail readers who are afraid of a few immigrants and other minority groups.

Did you read nonspecific's post?



It almost seems like I steer threads in this direction but it always pops up.

Take it all in a deep breath people...




posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 04:46 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: grainofsand

originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: grainofsand

But according to you, it isn't working. You can't have it both ways.

Policy makers have to adapt with lazy bastards...do you assert there are no lazy bastards milking the system in the UK???


Nope they're at the top and the very bottom, we're just the plebs paying for it all.

Nope, some of us are paying, some are not.


That's what I said.

Have you been drinking? *** Put down the beer and switch off computer, Put down the beer and switch off the computer. ***



posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 04:47 PM
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a reply to: nonspecific

Yeah that was funny, but # off with the lame Daily Mail reading argument, that is lame as #, and the argument of a man who has no argument.



posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 04:50 PM
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a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Oh behave with your crap ad hominem arguments.



posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 04:55 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: nonspecific

Yeah that was funny, but # off with the lame Daily Mail reading argument, that is lame as #, and the argument of a man who has no argument.


Oh I have loads of arguments.

It is just that not all them hold up to constructive criticism.

Pretty funny though Eh?



posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 04:57 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Oh behave with your crap ad hominem arguments.


Come on Boyo, don't be like that.



posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 04:59 PM
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a reply to: nonspecific

So you accept the Daily Mail argument should be called out for the lame arsed thing it is?
Call me out on anything I've posted, go on, you and Cobaltic, you have nothing aside from the blood of Corbyn lol



posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 05:01 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: Cobaltic1978

Oh behave with your crap ad hominem arguments.


Come on Boyo, don't be like that.

You got more than ad hominem then?
Please do share lol



posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 05:04 PM
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a reply to: grainofsand

You may say that, I couldn't possibly comment.



posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 05:05 PM
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originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: nonspecific

So you accept the Daily Mail argument should be called out for the lame arsed thing it is?
Call me out on anything I've posted, go on, you and Cobaltic, you have nothing aside from the blood of Corbyn lol


I am left wing as you get and respectfully choose to leave this for another day.

Can't say fairer than that eh?

Other that I am I right and you are simply misguided that is.




posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 05:06 PM
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originally posted by: Cobaltic1978
a reply to: grainofsand

You may say that, I couldn't possibly comment.

...because you have nothing but ad hominem arguments lol.



posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 05:11 PM
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originally posted by: nonspecific

originally posted by: grainofsand
a reply to: nonspecific

So you accept the Daily Mail argument should be called out for the lame arsed thing it is?
Call me out on anything I've posted, go on, you and Cobaltic, you have nothing aside from the blood of Corbyn lol


I am left wing as you get and respectfully choose to leave this for another day.

Can't say fairer than that eh?

Other that I am I right and you are simply misguided that is.


Lol, no, you just lost the argument and now shed tears

It's okay, I won't judge you.



posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 05:12 PM
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Thinking about it there are some common sense savings to be made with disability benifit that dont effect the claimants.

The main one being the mobility part of the DLA and how they aquire the cars.

Someone I know has got a brand knew audi Q3 through DLA.....why?

Not why they have a car, because its vital that they do and a large car like that is needed for there wheelchairs /comfort.

But why is it acquired brand knew from the dealership?

The government could shave £100 a month by leasing cars that are two or three years old. The disabled still get a nice car that suits there needs but you save a bit of money.



posted on Mar, 20 2016 @ 05:15 PM
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a reply to: crazyewok

Agreed, the system is a mess and needs an overhaul.
The lefties in this thread would disagree though lol



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