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Am I made from God's properties or my parents' properties? Both? How do I know which properties are my parents' and which properties are God's?
Is there any conceivable way to separate God's properties from any properties at all? Do non-God properties exist? If not, than that is not even logical..
Is the universe (all that physically exists) a being? What is the difference between the universe and God? Can He be separated in any way, from any thing?
If a being is infinite, it encompasses all possibilities and choices. How can it make choices when it already is all choices. How can it be limited to one choice and not another? That is not logical at all.
How can God make choice between A and B, if He already knows He will make choice A before the choice is presented? If God knows in advance all the choices that He will make, then He can never be said to have made any genuine choices at all.
Infinity is limited to not being finite. This limitation is self-imposed by its own definition. Something cannot be be infinite and choose to be finite, that is a logical contradiction.
Something cannot be be infinite and choose to be finite, that is a logical contradiction.
So God cannot change. He is changeless. He is absolutely neutral and incapable of change or choice, according to your definition.
originally posted by: spy66
a reply to: spygeek
How should i answer this question so that you understand......
We are all initially the Properties of God.
- The Properties of the singularity that now have become the Properties of Our universe was formed 13,799 billion years ago.
When the singularity was formed With its Properties, You were also already preplanned, so was Your parents and their parents.
You and Your parants would never have existed if the Properties to form you or them were not included. This is probably a hard nutt for you to Accept. But its a fact. Because you are present 13,799...and som billion years later.
You are a part of a strict timeline of expansion and changes which are governed by strict universal Laws. This means you are part of a strict system governed by universal laws.
If God is all there is and takes up all Space there is. How can it then be illogical With non-God Properties?
- where would we get the Properties to make this logicall? You would have to use the Properties of God to make that happen.
God is separated by what he have created. God is infintie his creation is finite.
Our finite universe is governed by universal laws. Not human laws or Our science.
I can not answear if Our universe is a being. To me it seams like Our universe is a strict system that is being governed.
If you read Genesis Chapter one you would get this impression.
Before there was finite, there was only God the infinite state that takes up all Space there is.
This means existance only consisted of God and nothing else. Logically this means only one reality existed, not every reality at once.
God made the Choice to create Our reality from all the infnite Choices he had. We just have to Accept that because "we" have no Choice.....
We do try very hard to create a different reality for Our selves, there is no doubt about that. You are trying to defend it..... These are the Choices we make.
God is absolute and absolute neutral and takes up all Space there is. God does not have Choices presented to him like we do.
When God is A absolute and takes up all Space there is; there is no B, C or D options. There is only 1. The right one.
God is all knowing, why would he argue with himself about a right or wrong options? Only we would do that because we are not all knowing and we dont know the future outcome of Our Choices.
That is the problem i have mentioned to you before. To understand this you have to figure out what the difference is between a absolute infinite emty Space compared to finite. Is finite infinite or not? If finite is not infinte something else must be. What is it?
No it is not. It is a logical contradiction if the infinite should changes ramdomly. A infinite Space that is absolute empty of finite Properties is absolute neutral. When the infinite is absolut neutral and empty and takes up all Space there is, how does such a Space naturally form finite Properties? If it not done by Choice?
How do you logically explain it? A Radom cause wont cut it. Because there is nothing physically taking Place in such a Space.
Yes. God formed finite, but that dont have to change who he is. The infinite doesnt disappear just because he created Our tiny universe.
I have to stop here.