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originally posted by: ShadowLink
Hate to say it but, maybe if we did things would be different.
Ever see the guy from Korea (I think it was) who got caned for drinking and driving?
I bet money when you can't sit for a month cause your ass is bleeding you'll think twice before planting it in the drivers seat after a few drinks.
How many times do we hear of constant re-offenders in regards to things like drunk driving, robbery, etc, etc...
originally posted by: Ghost147
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
I hope what happened to mydaughter happens to you.
I had felt sorry for your position (more so your daughters), but why would any person who brings up such horrible actions as a point of immorality actually wish these events on another person, especially over something as meaningless as an opinion that differs?
My empathy for you is gone.
originally posted by: smirkley
a reply to: Ghost147
I am sure you are not suggesting that we the law abiding public instead needs to be educated to tolerate, understand, and learn to live with those afflicted with the mental disorder called pedophilia? ?
originally posted by: smirkley
a reply to: Ghost147
And not to be snotty, but maybe then also narcissistic murderers or schizophrenic shooters at movie theaters because they have a known disorder that can be documented by a study that shows we need to learn to understand them more so we can help them?
originally posted by: smirkley
a reply to: Ghost147
Dont get me wrong. I am all for giving help, treatment, or therapy for those that need it.
originally posted by: smirkley
a reply to: Ghost147
But if the dirty deed has already been done, then my sensitivities become very calloused and uncaring to those specific persons that did them regardless of their so called condition.
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
Perhaps my final sentence was a bit harsh
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
but I can't for the life of me understand why people should think of any reason why a person like this should be treated humanely.
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
My daughter awakes frequently with nightmares, 2 years after this happened and a year and a half after the slime was arrested. She has been in therapy for the entire year and a half, and her therapist tells me many things, but the worst thing she tells me is that incidents like this can leave lasting effects decades after they occur. The scum is going to end up doing 16 years, and then he's a free man. My daughter may never be totally free of this. I cannot understand why anybody would defend him.
No. he will be on a sexual offender list the rest of his life. He will not be able to work around children and need to live so far from a school/daycare/ etc. He will have mandatory counseling and checkins.
originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: ForteanOrg
I am trying to understand why you would equate gays with pedophiles/childmolesters.
Gays aren't thinking about touching kids, thats exclusive pedo territory.
originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: ForteanOrg
And again, by being gay and acting on that desire, you are not violating someone elses rights or body.
Not so much with the pedo shoes on, you know, you can't tell me a 5 yr old consented.
originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: ForteanOrg
Dont want to be punished? Don't violate someone else, if its so primitive, why is it so hard to grasp?
originally posted by: Ghost147
originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: ForteanOrg
Dont want to be punished? Don't violate someone else, if its so primitive, why is it so hard to grasp?
Why is it so hard to grasp that Pedophilia does not necessarily equal Sex with Children?
originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: Ghost147
Well I replied to him because he implied I ought to feel that gays should be put to death, and I don't at all, if someone violates a child however.
Put them in the meat grinder.
originally posted by: Sillyosaurus
a reply to: Ghost147
I'm sorry. But Jared did have sex with children. And went to the big house. And has to live there with people who hate him. Maybe fifteen years of constant hate and beatings is his punishment. Yea the prison guards should stop it. I wonder if they will.
If his sentence is not too short maybe the other sentences of the same time for less heinous crimes are too long.
originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: Ghost147
Also I typed pedophile just general, I know you wanna make a grandcase about proper terminology, but it probably falls on deaf ears, yes we know the difference, sake the arguement I was using it in place for child-molester. Lets just call them potential predators.
originally posted by: Lysergic
originally posted by: Ghost147
originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: ForteanOrg
Dont want to be punished? Don't violate someone else, if its so primitive, why is it so hard to grasp?
Why is it so hard to grasp that Pedophilia does not necessarily equal Sex with Children?
Lets actually look at this, did I say pedohile? I said someone who violates therefore making them a child molester, get off your soap box already, you don't even actually read what I wrote, just jump to rebuttal.
originally posted by: Arizonaguy
originally posted by: reldra
originally posted by: Lysergic
Fogle apparently has a light sentence, someone, possibly a father decided, Vigilantism is the only way.
Inmate's brother says prisoner would beat up ex-Subway spokesman, Jared Fogle, again
Convict wants attention drawn to Fogle's sentence
www.thedenverchannel.com...
It is not the way. Fogle was sentenced and should be able to live out the sentence without being beaten. That is the job of the guards to stop. A person is sentenced to prison, not to being beaten. No matter what anyone might think of doing to him in their head.
The prison system failed someone in their custody.
Yeah? Would you say that if your daughter was one of the kids he molested? Seriously? These people are sick, twisted monsters! I believe crimes like his should result in death, and I am usually against most applications of the death penalty. He's lucky he didn't catch a bonecrusher to the throat.
I don't believe for a moment that you "hate" to say this.
You genuinely believe that beating people makes them behave differently.
Well, if you really think a good beating cures bad behaviour, I hope you will visit me one day so I can club you for a while for spouting such nonsense
I totally agree that re-offenders are a problem.
In countries that punish harsh there are way more re-offenders than in countries that focus on re-integration and dignified treatment.
I'm not a fool - I know there are some people that can't be cured and the only way to protect society is to isolate them from it.
But you can't beat the devil out - but you can beat the devil in.
originally posted by: Lysergic
a reply to: ForteanOrgI am trying to understand why you would equate gays with pedophiles/childmolesters.
And again, by being gay and acting on that desire, you are not violating someone elses rights or body.
Not so much with the pedo shoes on, you know, you can't tell me a 5 yr old consented.
Dont want to be punished? Don't violate someone else, if its so primitive, why is it so hard to grasp? Everyone likes to play the victim, it's beyond old.