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Seattle Police Releases 5 Photos Of Suicide Shotgun Used By Kurt Cobain

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posted on Mar, 17 2016 @ 11:49 PM
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SEATTLE — The Seattle Police Department on Thursday released five photos of the shotgun that Kurt Cobain used to commit suicide.

“The department is releasing five additional photographs of the firearm, taken on or about June 11, 2015. These photos were placed on the City’s computer system on March 3, 2016, and added to the investigative file shortly thereafter,” SPD said.

The photos show Seattle police cold case detective Mike Ciesynski holding the shotgun. It’s unclear why they took the photos last year or why they’re releasing them to the public at this time. A message left with Seattle police wasn’t immediately returned.

Cobain, the lead singer of the American rock band Nirvana, was found dead at his home in Seattle on April 8, 1994.
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Photo 1 of 5 Shotgun
Photo 2 of 5 Shotgun

Its seems like the shotgun is almost too long to use for a suicide. What do you think ATS?

RIP Kurt




posted on Mar, 17 2016 @ 11:59 PM
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a reply to: gmoneystunt

With a barrel that long, if his shoe wasn't off using his big toe to pull the trigger I'd have questions. I live 20 miles north of the Emerald City, and remember Aberdeen's famous Son taking his life. There was a lot of controversy surrounding his death, and the circumstances have spawned many a conspiracy.



posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 12:05 AM
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a reply to: Boscowashisnamo

The latest documentary (Soaked in Bleach - 2015) that I recently watched also said the shotgun shell was found on the wrong side of Kurt's body.


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posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 12:07 AM
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originally posted by: gmoneystunt
a reply to: Boscowashisnamo

The latest documentary (Soaked in Bleach - 2015) that I recently watched also said the shotgun shell was found on the wrong side of his body.



Incidentally bleach was the only nirvana album with a good song on it

I love trivia!



posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 12:10 AM
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Put in mouth.. use a toe.

Look I've spent years in the medical feild. Nothing is impossible. I've heard it's impossible. But. That gun is fine for the tragic events that happened.

Each my arms are 3 and a 1/2 feet.. how long are the guns in the photos?

Edit from the tip of my middle finger to my chin..
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I'm just over 6 feet.
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posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 12:15 AM
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a reply to: Another_Nut

I'm on a plain was mine.



posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 12:19 AM
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I inherited that same shotgun. Give me a second.

Browning A5. I'm 5'10 and could easily pull the trigger with a tow with the barrel in my mouth.


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posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 12:21 AM
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a reply to: Domo1

Slow down.. it could go off!😊
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posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 12:21 AM
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originally posted by: Bigburgh
Put in mouth.. use a toe.

Look I've spent years in the medical feild. Nothing is impossible. I've heard it's not possible. But. That gun is fine for the tragic events that happened.

Each my arms are 3 and a 1/2 feet.. how long are the guns in the photos?

Edit from the tip of my middle finger to my chin..


I am guessing that the trigger to the barrel is at least 3 1/2 ft. Using a toe is the only rational explanation. Bigburgh You have some seriously long arms. Unless you meant fingertip to opposite shoulder 3 1/2ft long. I have no idea what Kurt's arm lengths were. The shotgun shell on the wrong side still doesn't fit the story unless he had the trigger aimed downward, but I guess if someone was using their toe than it would make sense. I would like to know if he was found barefoot
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posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 12:22 AM
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originally posted by: Bigburgh
a reply to: Another_Nut

I'm on a plain was mine.
its ok

I don't mind
I don't mind
I don't mind
I don't mind
I don't mind
Mind , i don't have mind

Gruesome nevermind pun intended ( I think )

Also

It wouldn't suprise me either way on his death

But I'm glad he didn't have to go anymore down hill than inutero

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posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 12:29 AM
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a reply to: Boscowashisnamo

Idk if this is true but according to this site it appears he was found wearing sneakers

stock gripped between his sneaker-clad feet, he pulled the trigger with his thumb

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posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 12:34 AM
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a reply to: Domo1

He has way too much heroin in him to be able to do that I suspect.



posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 12:41 AM
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a reply to: zazzafrazz

That is true,

In the toxicology report released in the days after Cobain’s death, it was revealed that Kurt Cobain had 1.52 mg of heroin per liter in his blood, a statistic that when reported almost always appears alongside the claim that this is “three times the lethal dose.”
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posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 12:42 AM
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a reply to: gmoneystunt

Me too. If he was found with toes free.

From shoulder to middle finger is your starting point. Use a yard stick. Then from there use the notch in the shoulder/arm. And from there use your mouth. Rember.. we're trying to separate the brainstem. So place the muzzle in the mouth.. sigh. Look this is beyond ATS forum rules.


Look at the guy holding the gun in the photos.. ask him or envision him putting the arms out wide.. it covers the whole gun.
So what kind of rifle or shot gun was used... anyone know.? A make and model will give the dimensions.

Don't include the butt of the gun. Just trigger to muzzle.
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posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 12:53 AM
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a reply to: gmoneystunt

I seem to recall seeing pics with his feet or at least a foot wearing sneakers/vans



posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 12:54 AM
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a reply to: Bigburgh

I still haven't found the make and model of the shotgun yet. It appears when Kurt was found he was wearing sneakers. The shotgun seems at least one foot too long from barrel to trigger to do it. Also we are told by the experts brought on for interviews that, if the heroin did not kill Cobain itself, it would at least have rendered him too incapacitated to pull the trigger on the shotgun.

www.vh1.com...



posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 12:56 AM
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a reply to: gmoneystunt

I wonder what they base those toxicology figures on..an experienced user/addict could easily consume what would be a fatal dose to a non user and remain quite functional.. I have heard many experts who were truly clueless
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posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 01:02 AM
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originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: gmoneystunt

I wonder what they base those toxicology figures on..an experienced user/addict could easily consume what would be a fatal dose to a non user and remain quite functional.


Yeah but from what I read he was clean for I forget how much but it was awhile. Wow seeing that shotgun there is no way he shot himself, and I also believe he did have shoes on his feet too. If anything else comes out this might be big. I will say though I do believe he did not shoot himself, I am iffy on the courtney love involvement but it definitely would not surprise me at all.



posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 01:05 AM
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originally posted by: vonclod
a reply to: gmoneystunt

I seem to recall seeing pics with his feet or at least a foot wearing sneakers/vans




posted on Mar, 18 2016 @ 01:05 AM
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originally posted by: gmoneystunt
a reply to: Bigburgh

I still haven't found the make and model of the shotgun yet. It appears when Kurt was found he was wearing sneakers. The shotgun seems at least one foot too long from barrel to trigger to do it. Also we are told by the experts brought on for interviews that, if the heroin did not kill Cobain itself, it would at least have rendered him too incapacitated to pull the trigger on the shotgun.

www.vh1.com...


Ok.. alcoholics and functioning alcoholics. Long time drug users. All can function at thier perspective levels.

Not saying this is truly solved either from my armchair at the moment. You brought up a good thread. I to would like mrs. Hole to admit she killed him.. at least mentally.
But when people see a gun. They see the whole length. Not a trigger to the business end.. I still give you credit. You could be right and me wrong... it's all about the reach.👍
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