a reply to: spygeek
well in a 1000 or maybe 10000 years from now people will wonder if phones or planes or computers were myths if something happened like war or natural
disaster on global scale, for instance very much like it is mentioned in many old myths that it did...what if that is also the truth ? : )
But it is not important any way is it? Everything must be "experienced" and not just a belief. That is also what all true spiritual people say. So I
personally don't have much beliefs, but faith is a different matter, I know that I don't know for sure, but being "positive" never hurts ... also what
I experienced sometimes is beyond what materialistic science allows to admit at the present. So I have had a personal experiences like OBEs and few
other different wo wo stuff happen in person and admittedly sometimes even using some substances like mushrooms and l s d. I think they can be very
insightful into different abstract nature of our reality, which is closer to our source and being.
And in any case they are beneficial experiences which can help in various ways with emotions, addictions, pain, creativity, etc..., even science seems
to be getting around that with latest research about psychedelic drugs and its effects on the body and mind. But in my opinion this stuff is not for
everybody and it must be used with proper respect and preparation.
From my experience we are "spiritual beings" living a material existence. But forget about ego and some romantic immortality. This are just ego tricks
and wishes, false desires...
spiritual worlds are fueled by strength of emotions and "imagination" and it is probably for me impossible to properly describe with words... very
abstract and way more sensitive, where "thoughts" are manifested in "reality" in my opinion. Like in lucid dreams. Our personal playground and after
we graduate from our desires and personal attachments, maybe we can experiance "true OBEs" without limits, maybe even many other things?
what you observe and describe in your post about the material world is true and there is no doubt about that. But is material reality all there is to
this world? How is material reality even really "material"? What about new scientific discoveries about higgs bossons, which was a thread on ats about
two constants or some numbers or something like that : ) ? ... and few other scientific researches points to very non materialistic observations and
conclusions. Quantum mechanics, antimatter, dark matter, etc...you must admit there can be many implications if one examines it with open head.
and also there is also this for instance:
What if by continuous natural meditation in complete silence and absence of experiance of "I", more abstract nature starts to come into our
awarness..what are real implications of this change in our brains?
Well ... I had to many wo wo experiences. So I cannot agree with you there even a bit. Sorry.
Also in a way you just described the realization of "the void" or "emptiness". No things. No gods. no Karma. no enlightenment. No satan. No people.
etc...no thing! No existence. No non existence.
What purpose? : )
You see ... creepily similar to your own last part of post in a way. But it just involves a bit more depth. As above so below and what happens and is
observed by science is in a way very connected with our real nature. Maybe elements like water, fire, earth and air have their counterparts even in
"other plains" in "existence" ?
Read about true old alchemy. They are a bit about that and much more. Very interesting philosophy and teachings from what small bit I have learned and
Evolution is also true for the "spirit/soul" and it is going in the opposite direction than material in some sense. From being "born" from the source
and than goes back in as we "finish" our spiritual journey. But when you think about it, there is nothing to "finish" when all is one and everything
is spiritual in nature...a bit more of non duality.
Also thx for another laugh about the homer simpson quote, it makes abit sense to me in a weird way : )
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