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In Sequoia Caverns, stalactites protected from tourists from 1977-1987 grew 10 inches or 1 inch / year. At this rate they could have grown 300 ft in just 3600 years.
originally posted by: Agartha
Comparing calcium sulfate with calcium carbonate.... that's not real science, pal.
originally posted by: ignorant_ape
you have got to be taking the piss
gish is NOT a professional anything [ unless idiot is now a profession ] and certainly no geologist
if you want to give citations on cave morphology try john gunn or trevor ford
Duane Tolbert Gish (February 17, 1921 – March 5, 2013) was an American biochemist and a prominent member of the creationist movement. A Young Earth creationist, Gish was a former vice-president of the Institute for Creation Research (ICR) and the author of numerous publications about creation science.
originally posted by: deadlyhope
Hey everyone! Just a thought on the 6000 year old earth. This isn't about creationism, deism, or arguing whether or not a creator exists, but rather about this specific topic alone. I realize this point has been debated over and over, but I do have something I'd like to say on the matter.
I was always taught, since I was a kid, that God's day and years are different than ours. He lives.. on, near, in.. Whatever a star/planet/place that one rotation, as in, a day, takes a thousand of our Earth years.
This would make the "6000 year old earth " theory close to..2190000000 years old.
That's 2.1 billion - Now, some say the 6000 number may be off, some say the 1000 number be off... Regardless, doesn't this make more sense? The earth is.. Billions of years old, even according to the bible...Over 2 billion years actually correlates with our own studies of how old life on earth is ( basic life, but still, the start of life. )
Why are we so high and mighty about ourselves that we think God needs to measure time and space based on our calculations? He probably doesn't care to use "light year" or deem a "year in time" as 365 rotations of the planet earth - Why the hell would he? As I was also taught, since a kid, that he is master of limitless earths, beings, etc... Why are we deeming ourselves so important that any information from God is bound to be in our language, measurements, etc?
Also why are we so determined our dating method is foolproof? Like we can pinpoint some 10-12 digit number to any degree of accuracy? I'm definitely not saying the earth is 6000 human years old, I am saying 6000 years - Adjusted to 2.1 billion human years, is not in any way a false representation of when things on this earth started happening, especially if the two are simply estimates, due to the unreliable nature of The Bible and it's thousands of translations, changes, etc.. and can be assumed to have a margin of error.
Anyways, food for thought! Thanks for reading!
( For the record, I don't really believe in the 6000 year earth myself, in any way. Simply debating the topic for the heck of it. )
originally posted by: Barcs
His argument is hilarious. It's like saying that rubber and plastic are the same thing and one of them melting faster in a fire proves that the other one can. Pure nonsense.
Even if the quote from creationwiki is true, it doesn't matter because he's not a professional in the field or an authority on the subject.
originally posted by: Noinden
Chemistry is not his strong point. I had to recluse myself from this discussion when I saw that level of ignorance.