a reply to: interupt42
I honestly can't tell if you're serious in the OP or not. It seems like you have quite a few misconceptions about "Bernie supporters", and those
misconceptions are causing the confusion/misunderstandings. I'll be as blunt as possible so we won't have any misunderstandings.
The majority of Bernie's supporters are on the far left wing. In fact, it would be much more accurate to say that the far left wing has been neglected
for a long time by the Democratic Party and we will support any candidate that pushes our priorities. Before Bernie decided to run as a Democrat last
summer, a lot of the actual left wing progressives were pushing for Elizabeth Warren to run for this very reason. In other words, we're not so much
"Bernie Supporters" as we are "Left wing citizens who want someone to take out priorities seriously".
And contrary to what the right wing media says, Pres Obama is not
left wing. He's a disappointment to many segments in the actual left wing,
especially those of us who wanted single payer health care, living wages, climate change legislation, comprehensive immigration reform, massive green
technology investments, ending the War on Drugs, a fair criminal justice system, mandatory labeling of GMOs, prosecution of the Bush administration
for torture and the Iraq War, increasing the social safety net, ending our perpetual war cycle and constant military "interventions", etc. So even if
it wasn't Bernie, we still would've been supporting some actual left wing candidate.
I'm mentioning this so you'll understand why the vast majority of us would never vote for Trump. A lot of you seem to think we support Bernie because
he's against the Democratic status quo and is anti-establishment. But that's simply not the case. Just look at the actual policy positions I mentioned
in the last paragraph. Now be honest, what are Trump's positions on those? In fact, what are the Republican Party's positions on those? Not to
mention, Trump's comments and proposals against minorities, particularly Muslims and Latinos/Latinas. And let's not forget that the GOP seems to have
a fetish for attacking other minority groups like LGBT citizens, as well as being against abortion, being against unions, loving to gut social
programs, gleefully calling for more wars, etc.
So why do you think we'd ever support Trump and the Republican Party? The Republican Party is against nearly every policy position we care about. Then
again, I'm starting to doubt that many people here are exposed to the ideas of the actual left wing. So I guess it's not surprising that you don't
know what are priorities really are. Instead, it seems like most of you listen to what right wingers claim
our desires and policies are, which
only reinforces the misunderstandings.
As for supporting Hillary. (Sigh...) I've posted quite a few times on ATS just how much I disdain her. But I've also mentioned several times that the
only way I could bring myself to vote for her is if Trump is the GOP's nominee. It may not matter to many of you, but I'm an actual Muslim. Trump and
his spokeswoman's comments about Muslims completely burned the bridge with me. And I'm blessed to have a lot of good Hispanic and other immigrant
friends, so the GOP's bs anti-immigrant policies piss me off. And I'm strongly pro-worker and pro-social safety net, so the GOP's constant dismantling
of social programs pisses me off. I think you get the point. There's no way I can let the GOP get the presidency again without fighting it. So yes,
I'd rather Hillary over any GOP candidate, especially after all of the freakshow policy positions GOP candidates took during this cycle's debates.
As for the other Bernie supporters, most of us are working on phase 2. That's getting as many actual left wing candidates elected in the other
elections as possible. If they're Dems, that's fine. If they're Green Party, that's fine as well. If anything, this political cycle has finally made
large segments of the actual left wing realize the truth: we're either going to have to drag the Democratic Party back towards the left wing or we're
going to have to split with them. This "Third Way/Triangulating/Neoliberal" BS has to die. And if we can pressure Hillary to put actual left wing
progressives in her Cabinet, that will help too.
Did that answer your questions (assuming you were serious)?
edit on 15-5-2016 by enlightenedservant because: typos. thanks rubio...