Why Trump being elected will be a net gain for the USA

a reply to: cavtrooper7

I agree. But im voting for him. Im damn sure not voting for Hillary.

He can't do any worse than what we have now

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: MemoryShock

Im on my mobile. Go here

www.abovetopsecret.com...&mem=Alien+Abduct

Its an ATS thtead

So you lied in order to click bait your thread and then provided nothing but a poorly constructed anecdote?

I'm going to want more than that...

originally posted by: PhyllidaDavenport
Surely its already been decided who will win? An election is only ever for show....to give the people the illusion of democracy. Whoever is put into office I don't belive has any power in any event so Trump or Clinton or whoever....doesn't really matter...they all end up doing as they're told. Presidents are just as much a figurehead as our own Queen they look good great for publicity but bugger all power

That is the thinking...but we don't know if this is true. The winner could be pre-picked or the winner actually wins by the system in place. The President could actually be doing what a President does or there is a 'Shadow Government'.
We DO NOT KNOW. We guess.

I have a strong belief that there is a LOT of things a President does not know until the day he takes office, but is then told. Anywhere from communication with alien planets to the fact that there is a 'Shadow Government'. I have seen several Presidents age so quickly it is as if the saw something that no one could ever recover from.

a reply to: mOjOm

I don't know if it's dawned on you yet, or if your just in denial, but the DNC establishment has obviously chosen the race horse they are betting on and the sweeping victories over the past few weeks just solidify how the race for the Democratic nomination is going to end. Let's be serious here.

Clinton
1568 Delegates
pledged: 1096
super: 472

Sanders
797 Delegates
pledged: 774
super: 23

If anything you guys should be doubling down and focusing your efforts against Clinton, since one of her primary donors was directly involved with smearing Sanders as a socialist with radical followers which killed his platform.

originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: mOjOm

I don't know if it's dawned on you yet or if your just in denial, but the DNC establishment has obviously chosen the race horse they are betting on and the sweeping victories over the past few weeks just solidify how the race for the Democratic nomination is going to end.

Clinton
1568 Delegates
pledged: 1096
super: 472

Bernie Sanders
797 Delegates
pledged: 774
super: 23

If anything you guys should be doubling down and attacking Clinton, since one of her primary donors was directly involved with smearing Sanders as a socialist with radical followers.

The super delegates can change their minds at any time up until the DNC. there is a long road to go. And a third can jump in almost at anytime. I have mentioned that a few times.

originally posted by: MemoryShock

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
They arent just crop pickers and bathroom cleaners. They have taken over entire skilled trades here in Florida! Plumbing, roofing, painting, carpentry, flooring.

These TRADES used to pay a good wage, now the wages for these jobs are less than half of what it should pay. GARBAGE! Imagine going to college and getting a degree in say nursing, something that should pay 80k/year. But you soon realise you cant get a job nursing making over 30-40k a year because there is an overburdened number of Illegal people driving down the pay scale?

Give me stats.

Edit - I expect median wages for said industries over a two - three decade period correlated with immigration patterns in Florida. Further, I expect stats regarding the price of student loans (during the same time period) and how they have correlated with average expected median annual wage per industries you cited.

Hilarious.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: MemoryShock

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
They arent just crop pickers and bathroom cleaners. They have taken over entire skilled trades here in Florida! Plumbing, roofing, painting, carpentry, flooring.

These TRADES used to pay a good wage, now the wages for these jobs are less than half of what it should pay. GARBAGE! Imagine going to college and getting a degree in say nursing, something that should pay 80k/year. But you soon realise you cant get a job nursing making over 30-40k a year because there is an overburdened number of Illegal people driving down the pay scale?

Give me stats.

Edit - I expect median wages for said industries over a two - three decade period correlated with immigration patterns in Florida. Further, I expect stats regarding the price of student loans (during the same time period) and how they have correlated with average expected median annual wage per industries you cited.

Hilarious.

How is that hilarious?

a reply to: Alien Abduct

We can puke our guts out later I suppose.
I hate this.

a reply to: Konduit

It could change now that it's all done in the south. Now is the time to see the support for Bern to make itself known.

I'd agree that we should attack Hillary especially after what it seems she may have done to Sanders. But honestly I'm not sure who I'd try and convince that Hillary is Bad. I can't find anyone at all that tells me they are voting for her. Not One!!!

I seriously think all her alleged support is completely fabricated. Nobody I know is voting for her and nobody they know is either. So who the hell am I supposed to tell???

a reply to: reldra

Super Delegates exist to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don't have to run against grass roots activists.

Straight from the horses mouth. The fix was in long before Bernie even started his campaign, you've all been taken for suckers by the DNC and it's time to get angry.

originally posted by: MemoryShock

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: MemoryShock

Im on my mobile. Go here

www.abovetopsecret.com...&mem=Alien+Abduct

Its an ATS thtead

So you lied in order to click bait your thread and then provided nothing but a poorly constructed anecdote?

I'm going to want more than that...

Reply in my thread and ill respond when im not on my mobile

a reply to: mOjOm

The Mirror comes to mind ....

a reply to: Konduit

a reply to: mOjOm

Really what if Trump mentioned to the American people that Hillary Clinton covered up evidence in a rape case:

a reply to: cavtrooper7

I don't get it. Why would I warn myself about Hillary???

I already don't support her. Haven't you read anything I've posted...ever??

a reply to: reldra

I agree.

Isnt it creepy how like ALL of them seem to age and gray so fast?

originally posted by: Konduit
a reply to: reldra

Super Delegates exist to make sure that party leaders and elected officials don't have to run against grass roots activists.

Straight from the horses mouth. The fix was in long before Bernie even started his campaign, you've all been taken for suckers by the DNC and it's time to get angry.

Her answer is half right. The super delegates can pick whomever they wish up until the DNC. Her thinking on the idea of superdelegates doesn't matter and the news guy catches that.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: reldra

I agree.

Isnt it creepy how like ALL of them seem to age and gray so fast?

Yep.

originally posted by: reldra

originally posted by: Alien Abduct

originally posted by: MemoryShock

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
They arent just crop pickers and bathroom cleaners. They have taken over entire skilled trades here in Florida! Plumbing, roofing, painting, carpentry, flooring.

These TRADES used to pay a good wage, now the wages for these jobs are less than half of what it should pay. GARBAGE! Imagine going to college and getting a degree in say nursing, something that should pay 80k/year. But you soon realise you cant get a job nursing making over 30-40k a year because there is an overburdened number of Illegal people driving down the pay scale?

Give me stats.

Edit - I expect median wages for said industries over a two - three decade period correlated with immigration patterns in Florida. Further, I expect stats regarding the price of student loans (during the same time period) and how they have correlated with average expected median annual wage per industries you cited.

Hilarious.

How is that hilarious?

Because im on my mobile sorry