Trump backtracks on paying supporter's court fees

a reply to: olaru12

Not only will it not matter to them but they will find a way to blame someone else for it too. It will all be some trick by the media or the left somehow. Regardless of the fact that it's him on video saying it. Just like every other lie on video showing the same kind of lies it will have no effect other than to make them cling more tightly to their master.

a reply to: Slanter

He is a great sarcastic man. He said in an interview he would run Republican because their voters are dumb and believes anything. Thank God I will vote for him.

a reply to: luciferslight

Huh??

I don't follow the logic on that one.

I can't figure out if you're joking or not either.

originally posted by: introvert

Serious question:

To state that you will defend someone in court would indicate that either the individual making the statement would act as the defense attorney, or provide the means for defense, would it not?

It could only mean the latter, an advocate for the defense needs to be a bar member...AKA it's a closed shop, and even there a bar member may not necessarily be acceptable for various reasons.
Being a legal eagle is the best union in the world...Yuh make make your own laws!

a reply to: mOjOm

It's hard to teach some old dogs new tricks. People who didn't grow up with this instant access to information don't realize how revolutionary it is. Remember how during the 2008 election campaign it came out that Senator John McCain had never used email before? Here's one article about it. And just last year, Senator Lindsey Graham admitted that he'd never used emails before either.

(Potential GOP presidential candidate admits: I've never used email).

Just think about that for a second. We're not talking about torrents or running their own podcasts. They're so computer illiterate that they haven't even done the basics like emails. Yet these are the same people making federal laws about data breaches, security leaks, and the such. I'm pointing this out because these are the people who grew up in a time period where you could tell one crowd something, then tell another crowd the exact opposite. There was no social media or independent blogging, much less youtube channels, independent internet radio stations, or douchebag independent activists like myself that like to casually dig up damning clips from my opponents .

They learned politics and business when access to information was controlled by a tight knit group. Back then, it wasn't what you knew but what you could prove. They never had to worry about every person they encountered having slim and lightweight HD video recording devices on them. It's still like culture shock to them.

a reply to: smurfy

So he's said both "I'll defend you in court" at one point and "I promise to pay the legal fees" at an earlier point.

Either way, telling everyone he never said it now isn't going to work. Again caught lying. Clear as day and on video.

But will those who support him give a damn???

originally posted by: luciferslight
a reply to: Slanter

He is a great sarcastic man. He said in an interview he would run Republican because their voters are dumb and believes anything.


I don't think he was being sarcastic.

Thank God I will vote for him

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You actually think Trump is ordained by GOD?

a reply to: enlightenedservant

That would be understandable if it was only the older generations doing it. But even young people do it. They tweet or post stuff to facebook one day and then down the road try and back out of it and get caught.

I just don't understand what people think happens when instead of just verbally saying something you actually post it or put it on video or online. It's like they don't understand that it's all information recorded somewhere. Usually backed up somewhere too even if it does go away as things change. But somewhere that stuff is sitting on some drive or in some cloud of crap. That or someone has a screen shot of it if you're important enough to watch.

A lot of people just don't think about stuff like they should. They only see the world about one layer deep and that's it. Like everything to them is superficial with nothing else there.

a reply to: mOjOm

I think with a lot of the younger people, they don't understand the privacy laws. Or to be blunt, they don't realize that posting things online is the legal equivalent of posting something on a community billboard. So even if they only post something to "friends", it's still not legally "private". So workplaces and law enforcement can still access it and make legal decisions based on it.

And yeah, the internet never forgets, even when we personally forget. Unfortunately, that's something we all have to learn through trial and error, regardless of age (I've got skeletons in the closet with that too lol).

a reply to: introvert

Seriously? I'm not a lawyer. If I told someone before a provoked fight "Hey man, I'll defend you in court," it means "I'll testify for you that this was provoked incident and give my testimony that you're not the aggressor here." It's a grown up version of "I got your back in this fight, yo."

Either way, telling everyone he never said it now isn't going to work. Again caught lying. Clear as day and on video.

a reply to: mOjOm

I think I've come to the realization that Trump is actually the anti-Christ. Who else can possess voters to keep standing by him even after all his mean rhetoric and being caught in lie after lie. He says one thing one day and denies it the next day! It's on video and in his tweets! There's just no logic or sense to it!!

originally posted by: burdman30ott6
a reply to: introvert

Seriously? I'm not a lawyer. If I told someone before a provoked fight "Hey man, I'll defend you in court," it means "I'll testify for you that this was provoked incident and give my testimony that you're not the aggressor here." It's a grown up version of "I got your back in this fight, yo."

It appears that Trump did state he was willing to pay for legal fees, according to his own statement provided by mOJOm.

That's a bit more substantial than a "I got your back, bro".

Wouldn't you agree?

a reply to: introvert

His offer to pay legal fees seems to be tied to whether the attacked possessed tomatoes. Maybe that's why he said he'd need to look into the 78 year old sucker puncher more deeply before responding to the "will you cover his legal fees" question. Trump needs to know whether the punched had tomatoes in hand first...

I got nothing, man. Though I still maintain "I'll defend you in court" is neither a direct nor indirect offer to cover legal fees.

originally posted by: mOjOm
a reply to: smurfy

So he's said both "I'll defend you in court" at one point and "I promise to pay the legal fees" at an earlier point.

Either way, telling everyone he never said it now isn't going to work. Again caught lying. Clear as day and on video.

But will those who support him give a damn???

It doesn't matter, like I said Trump can't be an advocate for a defendant personally no matter how good his speechifying might be, so the only thing he can do is come up with the Shekels to pay for any defense, and he isn't about to do that.
So, even the most vociferous, physical nutball will know by now that Donald is in fact a duck, and has shat a big egg.

a reply to: burdman30ott6

I got nothing, man. Though I still maintain "I'll defend you in court" is neither a direct nor indirect offer to cover legal fees.

At least you are honest enough to admit that much. Such honesty is rare.

According to the Business Insider Trump stated this -

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said he is "going to take a look at" paying the legal fees of an apparent supporter who allegedly punched a protester at one of Trump's rallies last week.

Note: going to 'take a look into paying legal fees does not equal 'paying legal fees'.

he also added -

During a Sunday interview on "Meet The Press," the real-estate mogul criticized the protester, who was allegedly hit as he was being escorted out of Trump's Wednesday rally in North Carolina.

"I do want to see what that young man was doing, because he was very taunting," Trump said of the protester. "He was very loud, very disruptive."

"I want to see the full tape. I don't condone violence. I'm going to look at," he added.

www.businessinsider.com...

originally posted by: olaru12

originally posted by: eXia7
He said he'd DEFEND you in court. Defend doesn't mean he will PAY for your court fees.

What does it mean then....Trump isn't a lawyer.

It means he will show up, tell his side of the story then leave.

originally posted by: awareness10
According to the Business Insider Trump stated this -

Republican presidential candidate Donald Trump said he is "going to take a look at" paying the legal fees of an apparent supporter who allegedly punched a protester at one of Trump's rallies last week.

Note: going to 'take a look into paying legal fees does not equal 'paying legal fees'.

he also added -

During a Sunday interview on "Meet The Press," the real-estate mogul criticized the protester, who was allegedly hit as he was being escorted out of Trump's Wednesday rally in North Carolina.

"I do want to see what that young man was doing, because he was very taunting," Trump said of the protester. "He was very loud, very disruptive."

"I want to see the full tape. I don't condone violence. I'm going to look at," he added.

www.businessinsider.com...

That's an afterpost of what he did say earlier in the week, which was in fact pre-your actual event,

a reply to: smurfy

originally posted by: mOjOm
Trump: If you see someone with tomatoes "Knock the crap out of them and I promise to pay the legal fees."

I think if they were at a vegetable market, it would be inciting violence, ya think?

Stopping someone from throwing tomatoes, which is violent, is not "inciting violence"