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How come nobody is talking about Kasich? He is our best bet.

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posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 05:51 PM
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a reply to: KEACHI

I think Kasich will win Ohio. We'll see.




posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 05:56 PM
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originally posted by: kendix1960
a reply to: amazing

None of the above, as the four you list constitute the four plagues of America. But that having been said, I do still hold out the hope that Kasich wins the Ohio winner takes all primary and that Rubio wins the winner takes all Florida primary!


Ha, I know we have some political disagreements but on this one 3 out of 4 in common ain't bad!

I don't see why everyone is so afraid of Sanders, it's the word socialist and taxes for sure, but given the other 3 choices...



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 05:59 PM
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originally posted by: kendix1960
a reply to: BubbaJoe

Kasich is the best choice by far for President. But Sanders is totally unacceptable in my opinion, as his policies of robbing the rich to give to the poor will bankrupt the nation and lead to recession due to the high unemployment that will result when the stock market craters and small business cannot keep going. Doesn't Sanders realize that diminishing the bottom line of the folks who do the hiring in America leads to the loss of employment among those who work for them?


The tax code needs to change, made obvious to me by a return I did today. This man made 140K in income in 2015, all unearned, Qualified dividends and capital gains, he has 0 tax liability. While I do not think the rich need to be taxed to death, the code needs to be changed. My wife and I will pay more taxes on our 45K income, than this man will pay on 140K. He is a longtime client, and has paid a boatload of taxes in the past, but having no tax liability on 140K in income is not a substainable policy.



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:04 PM
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a reply to: BubbaJoe

I agree the tax code needs revision but not in the way Sanders plans to have it done. He'll double the capital gains tax which hurts seniors trying to hang on to their hard earned retirement income, and he'll lift the corporate income tax ceiling causing a cratering in corporate earnings which will, in turn, result in the lay off of many people who work for those companies.



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:05 PM
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a reply to: amazing

I still maintain that socialism just won't work in America.



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: frostie

Because he isnt. I dont care either way...but youre seeing 1st hand how the system works. The ones most talked about...will be one who wins.

When you say he is our best choice...if thaat was true...he'd be talked about just as much as as the others. But, he isnt. So, unfortunately...your incorrect about him being our best choice.

He could be...but you see now that it doenst matter...he wont get in. One of the most talked about will.

Politics has never been fair....



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:08 PM
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a reply to: kendix1960

It probably will be tight either way. I'm having a bit of fun. I do think it's damning for his campaign that he is in such a tight race in Ohio. I used to think I liked Kasich some years ago, but over time, listening to him speak and give interviews, I learned that he was not at all what I thought he was. I don't know many of the answers to our problems, but I know I don't agree with a majority of his.



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:20 PM
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originally posted by: kendix1960
a reply to: BubbaJoe

I agree the tax code needs revision but not in the way Sanders plans to have it done. He'll double the capital gains tax which hurts seniors trying to hang on to their hard earned retirement income, and he'll lift the corporate income tax ceiling causing a cratering in corporate earnings which will, in turn, result in the lay off of many people who work for those companies.


Most of my seniors make most of their money on dividends, of course capital gains comes in a bit, but most are not active traders. I don't agree with Sanders tax plan, but most Corporations don't pay any taxes on their profits now, there are numerous ways to get around that, dividends being one of them. I think out of the 40 C Corp returns we do, maybe 10 actually pay any taxes, and they are usually HOA's with high reserve balances, and they pay 30% of the interest they have earned.



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:23 PM
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originally posted by: kendix1960
a reply to: amazing

I still maintain that socialism just won't work in America.


We already have socialism in so many ways in America, I would agree things need to change from the top down, not sure where to start. Obama has severely disappointed me, but I would blame Congress for that, but really don't see Hillary or Trump as the answer, and I would spit in Cruz's face.



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:24 PM
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originally posted by: frostie

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: veracity




His focus for gun control is to get the mentally ill registered, and makes sense. Most mass shootings are the result of a mentilly ill person, not the gun. As we all know. 



-Registering mentally ill is first priority in gun control. (Nov 2015) 
-2nd Amendment advocate: NRA rating changed from "F" to "A". (Aug 2015) 
-Keep existing restrictions, but tighten up on terrorist guns. (Nov 1996) 
-Cool off before making new gun laws after Littleton. (May 1999) 
-More parenting better than more gun laws. (May 1999) 
-Voted YES on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. (Jun 1999) 
Opposes restrictions on the right to bear arms. (Aug 2010




This is what I'm talking about. Kasich wants to register those who are deemed "mentally ill" to prevent them from getting guns. That is an unconstitutional infringement of the 2nd Amendment.

Who determines mental illness? A doctor? What if the doctor is wrong? Its happened before. Homosexuality was once considered mental illness.


The majority of mass shooters are mentally unstable.

So yeah, lets take guns from them.

Kinda like how we took guns from felons....



I understand why you hold that opinion, and the idea is good on paper, but the fact is that it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. That means it goes contrary to our national legal code.

Doctors can be paid off. The Pharmaceutical industry does it all the time. So what if one day the gov't decides that all Donald Trump supporters are mentally ill? So what? Take their guns away? Have w learned nothing from the Dark Ages?

Kasich's idea is a backdoor to disarmament of political dissenters.

The fact is that what Kasich is proposing is ILLEGAL. That's the way it is. So he won't get my vote. And if you value your rights, you shouldn't vote for him either.


edit on 15-3-2016 by BELIEVERpriest because: typos



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:26 PM
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a reply to: BubbaJoe

I fully understand, BubbaJoe, but I'm really concerned about the seniors who would suffer under Sanders socialism. They certainly don't need a capital gains tax increase or a lifting of the income tax ceiling. I know the latter will only affect the top portfolios, but those folks worked hard for what they have saved and should be able to keep it, particularly with the low interest they are presently getting on their bonds.



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:27 PM
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originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest

originally posted by: frostie

originally posted by: BELIEVERpriest
a reply to: veracity




His focus for gun control is to get the mentally ill registered, and makes sense. Most mass shootings are the result of a mentilly ill person, not the gun. As we all know. 



-Registering mentally ill is first priority in gun control. (Nov 2015) 
-2nd Amendment advocate: NRA rating changed from "F" to "A". (Aug 2015) 
-Keep existing restrictions, but tighten up on terrorist guns. (Nov 1996) 
-Cool off before making new gun laws after Littleton. (May 1999) 
-More parenting better than more gun laws. (May 1999) 
-Voted YES on decreasing gun waiting period from 3 days to 1. (Jun 1999) 
Opposes restrictions on the right to bear arms. (Aug 2010




This is what I'm talking about. Kasich wants to register those who are deemed "mentally ill" to prevent them from getting guns. That is an unconstitutional infringement of the 2nd Amendment.

Who determines mental illness? A doctor? What if the doctor is wrong? Its happened before. Homosexuality was once considered mental illness.


The majority of mass shooters are mentally unstable.

So yeah, lets take guns from them.

Kinda like how we took guns from felons....



I understand why you hold that opinion, and the idea is good on paper, but the fact is that it is UNCONSTITUTIONAL. That means it goes contrary to our national legal code.

Doctors can be paid off. The Pharmaceutical industry does it all the time. So what if one day the gov't decides that all Donald Trump supporters are mentally ill? So what? Take their guns away? Have w learned nothing from the Dark Ages?

Kasich's idea is a backdoor to disarmament of political dissenters.

The fact is that what Kasich is proposing is ILLEGAL. That's the way it is. So he won't get my vote. And if you value your rights, you shouldn't vote for him either.



Apparently, you are a one issue voter, this will be the death of the USA.



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:32 PM
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originally posted by: kendix1960
a reply to: BubbaJoe

I fully understand, BubbaJoe, but I'm really concerned about the seniors who would suffer under Sanders socialism. They certainly don't need a capital gains tax increase or a lifting of the income tax ceiling. I know the latter will only affect the top portfolios, but those folks worked hard for what they have saved and should be able to keep it, particularly with the low interest they are presently getting on their bonds.


I whole heartedly agree, seniors for the most part should be left alone. I don't think Sanders' policies would leave granny eating cat food, and maybe there needs to be special rules for seniors, but am getting close, so may be biased. Bottom line is, the US tax code hits the middle class harder than it hits any other economic bracket, and that is not right.



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:33 PM
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a reply to: BELIEVERpriest

I fully understand your point, being the fact that is it unconstitutional alone is what makes it a no-go.

I do appreciate a strong Federalist stance.



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:35 PM
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a reply to: BubbaJoe




Apparently, you are a one issue voter, this will be the death of the USA


The one issue he happens to weigh in on revolves around gun control, but thats not his point.

His point is, he will never vote for someone trying to take away his rights.

The downfall of the USA is when citizens sacrifice freedom for safety, and vote politicians in who do not have a strong constitutional base.
edit on 15-3-2016 by frostie because: (no reason given)



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:35 PM
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a reply to: BubbaJoe

I agree. I'd spit in Cruz's face too! Obama has been an absolute disaster and Hillary would just continue that disaster for four more years. Trump is a dictator pure and simple and thus totally out of the question.

Things do need to change top to bottom but what Sanders wants to do would ruin the country.

I endorse Gov. Kasich! And he can beat Clinton! We both want that!



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:36 PM
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a reply to: kendix1960

After reading all your posts,

I have to ask,

Are you John Kasich?

Your're not fooling anyone..



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:40 PM
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originally posted by: frostie
a reply to: BubbaJoe




Apparently, you are a one issue voter, this will be the death of the USA


The one issue he happens to weigh in on revolves around gun control, but thats not his point.

His point is, he will never vote for someone trying to take away his rights.

The downfall of the USA is when citizens sacrifice freedom for safety, and vote politicians in who do not have a strong constitutional base.


As the Supreme Court has demonstrated many times, the Constitution is subject to interpretation and the subject of intent.



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:41 PM
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a reply to: frostie

No I'm not but we all do a lot worse than to emulate his high principles and strong moral compass. Hear that, Mr. Trump?



posted on Mar, 15 2016 @ 06:42 PM
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originally posted by: frostie
a reply to: kendix1960

After reading all your posts,

I have to ask,

Are you John Kasich?

Your're not fooling anyone..


I am not John Kasich, just a left leaning independent who would like to continue to live in the country that I once wore the uniform of.



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