I'm Voting Clinton And This Is Why

My problem with this immigration issue is that they want to limit our ability to travel and are using these issues to further isolate us to individual countries even traveling less.

m.nydailynews.com...

When it comes to travel, Americans aren’t very worldly, a new study shows. Yanks are only half as likely as Europeans to go abroad to visit more than one country — with expense being the number one reason the U.S. is full of homebodies

originally posted by: spirit_horse

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Alien Abduct

I hate these stupid bait threads.

Hillary is the most qualified of those who are running.

Happy?

Hahaha! Yea, she handled the ME regime change just fine there. Her paitients running the insane asylum of the ship of state while using it as a cruise ship casino to get donations to her foundation for weapons deals.

Now that's experience you shouldn't get behind!

You mean the UBS deal that resulted in her foundation getting millions, and her husband getting sweet speaking engagement gigs worth--millions?
www.theatlantic.com...
www.wsj.com...
thehill.com...

a reply to: dreamingawake

Eeewww I didnt know he supports NSA spying I dont like that at all.

Im not big on his health care plan either but its not horrible.

Jesus Christ I cant believe I have to resort to voting for Donald Trump

a reply to: onequestion

I think its not about the laws it s because there is just a hell of a lot of poor people in this country that can't afford to travel abroad

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: onequestion

I think its not about the laws it s because there is just a hell of a lot of poor people in this country that can't afford to travel abroad

Right but don't you think that the disposable income isn't available for a reason?

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Alien Abduct

I hate these stupid bait threads.

Hillary is the most qualified of those who are running.

Happy?

What makes her most qualified for potus?

She lived in the WH?

She named a park?

or
She destroyed the mideast and killed one of her ambassadors, 3 other heros and lied about it?
That she is under an FBI investigation for public corruption and violating security protocols with regards to handling classified information at her last job?

Maybe you think it's all 3 that makes her the most qualified?

Do you guys agree with my immigration assessment in the OP?

a reply to: onequestion

What do you mean?

originally posted by: Boscowashisnamo

originally posted by: spirit_horse

originally posted by: Annee
a reply to: Alien Abduct

I hate these stupid bait threads.

Hillary is the most qualified of those who are running.

Happy?

Hahaha! Yea, she handled the ME regime change just fine there. Her paitients running the insane asylum of the ship of state while using it as a cruise ship casino to get donations to her foundation for weapons deals.

Now that's experience you shouldn't get behind!

You mean the UBS deal that resulted in her foundation getting millions, and her husband getting sweet speaking engagement gigs worth--millions?
www.theatlantic.com...
www.wsj.com...
thehill.com...

Don't forget gas station sushi.

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: onequestion

What do you mean?

Seems like when the economy is down than there is clearly less travel.

Might be getting done on purpose.

originally posted by: Boscowashisnamo
You mean the UBS deal that resulted in her foundation getting millions, and her husband getting sweet speaking engagement gigs worth--millions?

No.

Clinton Foundation Donors Got Weapons Deals From Hillary Clinton's State Department

Israeli officials were agitated, reportedly complaining to the Obama administration that this substantial enhancement to Saudi air power risked disrupting the region's fragile balance of power. The deal appeared to collide with the State Department’s documented concerns about the repressive policies of the Saudi royal family.

But now, in late 2011, Hillary Clinton’s State Department was formally clearing the sale, asserting that it was in the national interest. At press conferences in Washington to announce the department’s approval, an assistant secretary of state, Andrew Shapiro, declared that the deal had been “a top priority” for Clinton personally. Shapiro, a longtime aide to Clinton since her Senate days, added that the “U.S. Air Force and U.S. Army have excellent relationships in Saudi Arabia.”

These were not the only relationships bridging leaders of the two nations. In the years before Hillary Clinton became secretary of state, the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia contributed at least $10 million to the Clinton Foundation, the philanthropic enterprise she has overseen with her husband, former president Bill Clinton. Just two months before the deal was finalized, Boeing -- the defense contractor that manufactures one of the fighter jets the Saudis were especially keen to acquire, the F-15 -- contributed $900,000 to the Clinton Foundation, according to a company press release.

The Saudi deal was one of dozens of arms sales approved by Hillary Clinton’s State Department that placed weapons in the hands of governments that had also donated money to the Clinton family philanthropic empire, an International Business Times investigation has found.

Under Clinton's leadership, the State Department approved $165 billion worth of commercial arms sales to 20 nations whose governments have given money to the Clinton Foundation, according to an IBTimes analysis of State Department and foundation data. That figure -- derived from the three full fiscal years of Clinton’s term as Secretary of State (from October 2010 to September 2012) -- represented nearly double the value of American arms sales made to the those countries and approved by the State Department during the same period of President George W. Bush’s second term.

The Clinton-led State Department also authorized $151 billion of separate Pentagon-brokered deals for 16 of the countries that donated to the Clinton Foundation, resulting in a 143 percent increase in completed sales to those nations over the same time frame during the Bush administration. These extra sales were part of a broad increase in American military exports that accompanied Obama’s arrival in the White House. The 143 percent increase in U.S. arms sales to Clinton Foundation donors compares to an 80 percent increase in such sales to all countries over the same time period.

American defense contractors also donated to the Clinton Foundation while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state and in some cases made personal payments to Bill Clinton for speaking engagements. Such firms and their subsidiaries were listed as contractors in $163 billion worth of Pentagon-negotiated deals that were authorized by the Clinton State Department between 2009 and 2012.

The State Department formally approved these arms sales even as many of the deals enhanced the military power of countries ruled by authoritarian regimes whose human rights abuses had been criticized by the department. Algeria, Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates, Oman and Qatar all donated to the Clinton Foundation and also gained State Department clearance to buy caches of American-made weapons even as the department singled them out for a range of alleged ills, from corruption to restrictions on civil liberties to violent crackdowns against political opponents.

As secretary of state, Hillary Clinton also accused some of these countries of failing to marshal a serious and sustained campaign to confront terrorism. In a December 2009 State Department cable published by Wikileaks, Clinton complained of “an ongoing challenge to persuade Saudi officials to treat terrorist financing emanating from Saudi Arabia as a strategic priority.” She declared that “Qatar's overall level of CT cooperation with the U.S. is considered the worst in the region.” She said the Kuwaiti government was “less inclined to take action against Kuwait-based financiers and facilitators plotting attacks.” She noted that “UAE-based donors have provided financial support to a variety of terrorist groups.” All of these countries donated to the Clinton Foundation and received increased weapons export authorizations from the Clinton-run State Department.

There is lots more information in the article at the link above.

Winning Friends, Influencing Clintons

Under federal law, foreign governments seeking State Department clearance to buy American-made arms are barred from making campaign contributions -- a prohibition aimed at preventing foreign interests from using cash to influence national security policy. But nothing prevents them from contributing to a philanthropic foundation controlled by policymakers.

Just before Hillary Clinton became Secretary of State, the Clinton Foundation signed an agreement generally obligating it to disclose to the State Department increases in contributions from its existing foreign government donors and any new foreign government donors. Those increases were to be reviewed by an official at the State Department and “as appropriate” the White House counsel’s office. According to available disclosures, officials at the State Department and White House raised no issues about potential conflicts related to arms sales.

originally posted by: onequestion

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: onequestion

I think its not about the laws it s because there is just a hell of a lot of poor people in this country that can't afford to travel abroad

Right but don't you think that the disposable income isn't available for a reason?

Because their jobs dont pay enough for them to have disposable income

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
Do you guys agree with my immigration assessment in the OP?

Yes, that is Trumps biggest promise and I bet he will do it in a heartbeat.

originally posted by: onequestion

originally posted by: Alien Abduct
a reply to: onequestion

What do you mean?

Seems like when the economy is down than there is clearly less travel.

Might be getting done on purpose.

I see your point

originally posted by: Spider879
If you had only asked why I will be voting for Bernie...sigh! no love..

Believe it or not , I am partially with you on that one. Instead of verbally attacking and ridiculing everyone else in the race , the Bern has been still concentrating on the issues and speaking on what he will try to do to correct them.Given all the factors in the race , Sanders is the one that I think retains his composure and is more Presidential than anyone else.

I disagree with the premise that it's easy to illegally immigrate to the U.S. It's neither easy nor comfortable when you're poor to pack up your life and move to another country, especially knowing you will be a societal outcast, widely hated, and without the support system a legal immigrant would have. Outside of the few actual big-fish drug dealers and other obvious criminals, people who come into the U.S. illegally are almost always people who are coming into a pretty #ty situation but leaving behind an even worse one.

Given that, I cannot fault any such people for illegally immigrating. And honestly, I'd rather share my country with them than selfishly keep it all to myself. Because I would want the same thing if I were in their shoes. "Do unto others." Even if it costs me more tax dollars. "Give us your tired, your poor" is one of the good parts of the American ideal and it's one that both domestic and international law have made far, far too difficult to accomplish the legal way.

Just take the Syrian situation....only a microscopic percentage (less than one percent) of all who apply are actually granted access to the country, and yet even that is considered a horrible travesty by many. You can't provide shelter to "huddled masses" when you're turning away more than 99% of them before they even get to the door. Have compassion. We'll all be happier in the end.

a reply to: elliotmtl

Ellis Island has been closed for a while, sorry.

a reply to: Alien Abduct

I'm outside the box meaning I'm an Aussie. I look at Clinton and think this person has surpassed her prime. Kinda like the German leader (Merkal) or even our own Julia Gillard. To me Clinton has nothing to offer the USA other than her first female President status.

If she wins,,,beware. There is no other agenda except as above. Trying to be a history maker. If she was genuine she would've dumped her cheating husband Bill, who disgraced the leadership of the USA with his televised lies. This woman is no better.

By surpassing her prime I mean she has nothing to offer the USA outside her own personal interests. At least if she loses the position of POTUS she may claim the most succesful female candidate above Pailn.

I ask the citizens of USA to vote for a 'true blue' candidate and not some one posturing they are there for the best interest of themselves.

Vote for a genuine younger person who may have the guts and determination to move his/her country forward, without any chequered past, to bring some integrity back to the USA damaged forever by past presidents.

Don't vote for any Pres who has monetary interests. I ask you to vote for a person of integrity and someone who will stick up for the common peoples of the USA and not big business, extreme right or extreme left. Just do it dudes and dudettes.

Kind regards,

Bally

It's odd how hard it is to find a Shillary supporter given how many turn out to vote.

We have more reports of Sasquatch.

I am voting for Hillary just to piss you off.